Godzilla the Ride: Great Clash

[Legion1979]

Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

[king_ghidorah]

Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

Ive entered the stage of fandom where I can wholeheartedly see where Legion is coming from.

Most of what I love about the character and franchise seems sort of baked in at this point. What I find myself hoping for with each new film is that I like the film well enough, but feel no desire to collect anything from it.

[JAGzilla]

I'll need to see it in action, but I tentatively like this Mechagodzilla more than the GvK version. Which isn't a high bar to clear.

[LegendZilla]

Next time, Mothra will be added for sure.

[Creature22]

I’m actually kind of surprised at the lukewarm response I’m seeing for Yamazaki’s Mechagodzilla. I don’t hate it personally but definitely think it is very “out of place” for his period 40s aesthetic. Like, I imagined if he did Mechagodzilla it would almost have a more 70s/steampunk vibe.

At the very least the MV influence is very evident in all his revamps. I’m sure the ride will be rockin’ though.

[Jomei]

I'm guessing based on the hovercraft or whatever, this ride takes place in a different setting.

[Gigantis]

That MG design is just... weird. I honestly have no idea how to feel about it but the whole thing just looks off. It's so thin and it's got an awkward looking head.

[GigaBowserG]

That MG looks like what would happen if you asked ChatGPT to generate an image of Mechagodzilla.

....aaaaaand I can't unsee it now Hopefully we get another render without all the debris flying all over, that really doesn't help much.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Okay, here’s what’s wrong with that Mecha Godzilla:

-Mechagodzilla (and other monsters) have been traditionally limited to the restraints of suits. This means that despite being robots, which can have a lot of wires and mechanics, the main three (Showa, Heisei, and Kiryu) all tend to be bulky. Even the slimmed down Kiryu, with some wiring, tends to still be a bulky robot. This MG, looks overly slim and sleek in some areas, but is clearly based upon/mirroring -1.0’s design. The result is something that looks less like the bulky robots we are used to and more of a generic robot.

-The design is missing “the juice”. Something to make it unique and stand out. Maybe that’s an ability we don’t see here, but physically it just doesn’t pop. All of the other MG’s, maybe except for the MG city) have a lot more personality and unique features to them. Think about Showa’s menacing face, Heisei’s jetpack and spherical elements, and Kiryu’s cyborg elements+subtle color alterations). This as of now doesn’t have much.

The result is a generic looking robot. Wouldn’t surprise me if this is a “draft”, and should it ever be reused in a movie, it might have more colors or weapons.

[Chaos Reincarnation]

Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

Ive entered the stage of fandom where I can wholeheartedly see where Legion is coming from.

Most of what I love about the character and franchise seems sort of baked in at this point. What I find myself hoping for with each new film is that I like the film well enough, but feel no desire to collect anything from it.

Mirroring this as well. Especially for a ride design, which I'll never be able to go on. It's just not a big deal honestly.

[Vakanai]

Hmm, so far I haven't seen a single CGI Mechgodzilla design I've liked. Ready Player One, Godzilla vs Kong, and now this. I think LSD Jellyfish has a good point, they stray too far from the older looks just because the technology allows them to, but what works is hewing closer to the older designs. MV, Shin, and MO each have very different Godzilla designs, each are CG, yet all work because they keep a pretty good through-design with what came before.

I'm not sure what a "good" CG MechaG design would look like, but I haven't seen one yet. Definitely needs more bulk - look at Gundam, there's a bulky, blocky quality to every Gundam design that is core to the franchise. If you made a Gundam series with an aesthetic closer to say NGE or Eureka Seven, it just wouldn't come across as Gundam.

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Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

Ive entered the stage of fandom where I can wholeheartedly see where Legion is coming from.

Most of what I love about the character and franchise seems sort of baked in at this point. What I find myself hoping for with each new film is that I like the film well enough, but feel no desire to collect anything from it.

Mirroring this as well. Especially for a ride design, which I'll never be able to go on. It's just not a big deal honestly.

I've never been a huge collector to begin with. I had a Heisei Godzilla toy I loved as a kid, as well as a couple generic "legally distinct" Godzilla-like toys, and I bought one MV KotM toy just cause loved the design, but ultimately I'm a films first kind of fan. Or video first I guess, since I've gladly watched shorts and videos of the rides and so on.

[Cookson1954]

Might have been answered, but will the current ride still be active having 2 at all times?

[Legion1979]

Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

Ive entered the stage of fandom where I can wholeheartedly see where Legion is coming from.

Most of what I love about the character and franchise seems sort of baked in at this point. What I find myself hoping for with each new film is that I like the film well enough, but feel no desire to collect anything from it.

Here's the thing I'm dealing with. I'm getting sick of secondary Godzilla media. The Monsterverse and the Toho films? Fine. But theres such a barrage of other stuff that it's overwhelming. Singular Point, the Gemstone and live action shorts, theme park rides...each with it's own take on the Godzilla character and monsters like King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla. The way fans embrace them and add every new Godzilla to their design collages is also exhausting, putting forgettable, ancellary media right up there with the films.

And that's not even getting to the fact that we have Godzilla comic book canon coming out of IDW, DC AND Marvel. The live action suitmation shorts were fun, but I have no use for any of the rest of it.

[Vakanai]

Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

Ive entered the stage of fandom where I can wholeheartedly see where Legion is coming from.

Most of what I love about the character and franchise seems sort of baked in at this point. What I find myself hoping for with each new film is that I like the film well enough, but feel no desire to collect anything from it.

Here's the thing I'm dealing with. I'm getting sick of secondary Godzilla media. The Monsterverse and the Toho films? Fine. But theres such a barrage of other stuff that it's overwhelming. Singular Point, the Gemstone and live action shorts, theme park rides...each with it's own take on the Godzilla character and monsters like King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla. The way fans embrace them and add every new Godzilla to their design collages is also exhausting, putting forgettable, ancellary media right up there with the films.

And that's not even getting to the fact that we have Godzilla comic book canon coming out of IDW, DC AND Marvel. The live action suitmation shorts were fun, but I have no use for any of the rest of it.

I mean, you don't have to watch them. I love the shorts - the Gemstone shorts in particular really helped me cope with my bitterness and disappointment stemming from GvK before Minus One finally got the horribleness out of my brain. And the live action shorts were just plain fun. As for the rides, they're rides - they're meant to consume at amusement parks, we're one of the few fandoms that actually watch footage of this. There's Marvel rides too, but most MCU fans just watch the movies. If this feels like too much, just step back and don't engage with anything outside the films.

[Mechagigan]

I think its obnoxious when these spin-off incarnations are treated as important (Le Snow Godzilla!!!!) but I dig the variety, and I feel like it's nothing especially new. I'd rather have a bunch of one-off designs than have Kiryu and Heisei G smacked left and right as usual.

[Legion1979]

I think its obnoxious when these spin-off incarnations are treated as important (Le Snow Godzilla!!!!)

Yup. Toho themselves doesnt even do that. When it comea to acknowledging Godzilla's history, Toho seems to only pay attention to the 30 live action movies they've made, G98 and the films in the Monsterverse. They don't even seem to include the three anime movies in the official film count.

I remember whem Fathom showed Tokyo SOS in theaters last year and a slide before the movie asked how many movies there were in the Toho Godzilla series. The answer wasn't 33, it was 30.

[Creature22]

I think I can understand the burnout. I’m sure many of us can relate to growing up during a “drought” period where the Godzilla movies available were Showa, the toys were rubber Chinese knock offs, and the fandom was limited to “me, myself and I”. Like, when I was a kid, Godzilla was mine.

And I don’t say that to sound gatekeepy or that I yearn for how it used to be or anything like that. That Godzilla is so readily available and expanding and gaining more fans now is awesome. But, like, it’s definitely different, and a bit jarring in an almost overstimulating sort of way. I think many of us went so long being used to nothing that suddenly seeing the character everywhere and on everything in only the course of a single decade is a bit crazy to process.

Like, yeah. They designed “another” new MechaGodzilla, on top of all the other new MechaGodzillas, for a Godzilla Ride that is itself a sequel to a former Godzilla Ride. I wouldn’t have believed that if you told me it was gonna happen ten years ago.

[miguelnuva]

Legion1979 stop acting like a grumpy old man telling the lesser Godzillas to get off your lawn.

In all seriousness though I can see where you are coming from.

I'm excited for Minus 2 and Supernova. I saw the ride poster and said coll a new MechaG, maybe I'll get the figure if it gets one.

I don't know when the last time I read a Godzilla comic was but back during the drought whe. I'd first released I had to go into the comic store every month. Now I hear a lot of it online.

I had even forgotten there was a Snow Godzilla.

Outside the movies if they announce a new video game or even the south Asia Godzilla turns into a movie maybe I'll be excited about that.

[Jomei]

Snow Godzilla SHMA confirmed.

I wouldn't put Singular Point in the same category as an anime cameo design or even a ride design or web shorts. It was a fully-fledged work that, in total amount of runtime, is equivalent to around three films' worth. Plus, obviously, it had its own original characters and story, so I don't it's accurate to categorize it as subordinate. I know some fans categorize anime as lesser by default, but I think that's a very outdated perspective.

That said, I do understand Legion's fatigue with ancillary media. I mostly forget Chibi Godzilla and Godziban exist except when I see new merch. And it's funny to see some fans attribute far more significance than is probably merited to goofy one-offs.

But this is part of how Toho eats and how Godzilla is relevant again. The character has diversified significantly in appeal, and Toho has effectively leveraged each new thing toward merchandising and other revenue opportunities. I'm pretty lukewarm on this new Mechagodzilla design, but you know they'll probably produce a figure of it, and if I were to visit Seibuen Amusement Park and ride this thing, I would absolutely have to have one as a commemorative souvenir. They'd probably milk me for an extra 10,000 yen easy on top of park fees.

Plus, if doing all this ancillary or side stuff allows Toho to really commit to the core live action series being a sort of prestige sci-fi, it's win-win-win.

[cloverfan98]

Fun, another over designed Mechagodzilla thats gonna end up with a Bandai figure I can ignore.

Ive entered the stage of fandom where I can wholeheartedly see where Legion is coming from.

Most of what I love about the character and franchise seems sort of baked in at this point. What I find myself hoping for with each new film is that I like the film well enough, but feel no desire to collect anything from it.

Here's the thing I'm dealing with. I'm getting sick of secondary Godzilla media. The Monsterverse and the Toho films? Fine. But theres such a barrage of other stuff that it's overwhelming. Singular Point, the Gemstone and live action shorts, theme park rides...each with it's own take on the Godzilla character and monsters like King Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla. The way fans embrace them and add every new Godzilla to their design collages is also exhausting, putting forgettable, ancellary media right up there with the films.

And that's not even getting to the fact that we have Godzilla comic book canon coming out of IDW, DC AND Marvel. The live action suitmation shorts were fun, but I have no use for any of the rest of it.

I might be on the same page as you if every new piece of Godzilla media was crap, but as it currently stands I do not understand your perspective at all. Godzilla fans have ALWAYS loved the small cameos or stand alone Godzillas which were never featured a movie. Look at the Godzilla Vs Charles Barkley designs or hell even the old Dr. Pepper commercials. Yes I agree that they are not on the same level as a design from a full fledged Godzilla movie, but bemoaning how "exhausting" it is to see fan art with these newer designs is just bizarre to me. Plus considering how the Festival shorts were made by Toho and the Gemstone shorts were elevated to an official status by Toho, those two are far and away more "real" than the two examples I mentioned prior. I am not of the mindset that "bad Godzilla is better than no Godzilla" and I imagine you're of the same mindset as well. However you genuinely sound upset that there is so much new Godzilla content to be experienced regardless of their individual quality. While I find that to be a bizarre stance to take, at the very least the current Godzilla boom should be celebrated for providing the incentive for Toho to restore the original films and for said films to get new releases around the world. Outside of living during the Showa era and experiencing the original releases of that eras films, I cannot imagine that there has ever been a better time to be a Godzilla fan than right now. Even if for some odd reason you feel that the MV, Festival, Gemstone, Animes, comics, etc don't count, it has never been easier for people to get ahold of and view the Godzilla films from 1954 thru 2004 and I believe that's reason enough to justify the current popularity of Godzilla.