MMT R10: Logan vs. Nagoda

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You know what? I think I can take this. Megaguirus can speed blitz into one of the Evas to distract them, or stab a core if she gets lucky. Rainbow Mothra and Godzilla could take out the other Eva, or bombard Black King either to death or unconsciousness. If there is water nearby, Godzilla and Mothra could very easily change the battle from a land based fight to an aquatic one, as Rainbow Mothra is able to transform into Aqua Mothra.

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Aqua Mothra splitting into tiny moths and entering Black King's bloodstream is a very good way of dealing with the great wall of the Showa Era. Otherwise, I don't really see a way for Mothra Leo to deal with Black King. Regular Leo's firepower is very much just barely on the level of an Ultra finisher, and Rainbow Mothra's beams would probably be in a similar range to the Ultra Bracelet (ignoring the planet busting feat it has), and Black King tanked that without flinching, to the neck. I remember he who shall not be named bringing up arguments about how they believed that was an outlier, but, to sum up what would've been my arguments against that:
a) narratively Black King is meant to be an unstoppable foe
b) canonical guidebooks and statements state Jack was boosted beyond his usual strength due to the power of his emotions
c) Jack was stated to be stronger than usual during his rematch, and power of emotions boosting Ultras beyond their normal levels has become a canonical trope and in universe recognised thing ever since (Leo's finale, Geed movie, etc)
d) the whole point of the first fight was to show just how hopeless Jack is against Black King, and how much pain he's in against this kaiju minion of Nackle who just killed Go's girlfriend and best friend
e) Jack chops Black King multiple times in the first fight with his hand and never beheads Black King, contrast to the second fight where a chop beheads Black King and melee is sufficient to hurt and kill a monster that previously ignored all finishers (including an Ultra Beam, not just the Bracelet)

Anyways, these feats imply Black King is still impenetrable to anything but Aqua Mothra splitting up and attacking his insides (especially factoring in the Bracelet's planet busting). It thus comes down to whether Rainbow Mothra will think to do this against a foe like Black King (Leo didn't do so against Grand King Ghidorah) and in time before getting taken out by one of Logan's Evas (especially when Eva 01 goes berserk like in most of the previous matches). Otherwise, 2 Evas are very dangerous and Black King remains completely untouchable by Nagoda's firepower.
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Nagoda wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:22 pm You know what? I think I can take this. Megaguirus can speed blitz into one of the Evas to distract them, or stab a core if she gets lucky. Rainbow Mothra and Godzilla could take out the other Eva, or bombard Black King either to death or unconsciousness. If there is water nearby, Godzilla and Mothra could very easily change the battle from a land based fight to an aquatic one, as Rainbow Mothra is able to transform into Aqua Mothra.

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EVAs do normally require electricity to function, so Megaguirus' flight should be able to mess with them. That could give Unit 01 (and maybe 02) the chance to go Berserk, but they might come back online before that can happen.

As for the overall matchup, Black King can't really do much to either Megaguirus or Leo, with the latter having a sure-fire way to get past the stonewall problem. The EVAs also don't have many options versus flying opponents, though their agility and Leo's straight-forward approach help. Godzilla can keep any of Logan's team occupied for a good while...unless the EVA(s) go Berserk, at which point it's only a matter of time before they clean house.

With the EVAs having limited electricity that Megaguirus can tamper with, I'm inclined to say Nagoda will have openings to take them out and then deal with Black King. But it's hard to say how Megaguirus' interference would interact with the Berserk state.

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Itachi Amami wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 8:01 am
Nagoda wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:22 pm You know what? I think I can take this. Megaguirus can speed blitz into one of the Evas to distract them, or stab a core if she gets lucky. Rainbow Mothra and Godzilla could take out the other Eva, or bombard Black King either to death or unconsciousness. If there is water nearby, Godzilla and Mothra could very easily change the battle from a land based fight to an aquatic one, as Rainbow Mothra is able to transform into Aqua Mothra.

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I don't see Rainbow Mothra becoming Aqua Mothra given how it took being covered in Barem and getting rejuvenated from that experience for Leo to even transform into the latter form. A Berserk 01 is just going to make things more complicated because Aqua Mothra can't just divide and go into more than one member of my team at the same time, he has to decide on the fly who is on the receiving end of the microscopic assault.
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Logan as Leo doesn't opt for Aqua form until very late into the battle, and this reluctance really harms the ability for the rest of Nagoda's team to do anything meaningful aside from merely stalling the Evas, and when they go Berserk that stalling becomes useless and everything goes downhill from there. If Leo finds it within himself to use Aqua earlier on, Nagoda could win this, but as it stands, Logan has the edge.
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Re: MMT R10: Logan vs. Nagoda

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Leaning Nagoda due to Megaguirus providing interference for the EVAs, but it'll be a close-call.

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