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Admittedly, this is an old match; but back then I did write some of the sentences too long with no semicolons or other means of dividing them.

Other than that, though, I hope you all enjoy it. :Rodan56:
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The story continues (and most likely concludes)
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And in such bittersweet fashion no less! This is a prettycool fight about Earth’s natural kaiju going up against mutankind. Alas, when it comes to the fact that both sides have something to defend, it can only end in tragedy. No real winners here it seems..
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You know i wonder in the new match. What did Rodan do to make all the dakaiju that mad

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Was not expecting a sequel to #306 of all matches, but it shouldn't be surprising now that I think about it. In my opinion, this is one of the best story-driven matches with purely kaiju and no humans.

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The feedback and awards surveys are here!
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Shin Ultraman kaiju, Gigan Miles, and even Daimajin aren't too surpising from the teaser images, but Mt. Lady? That's a shocker to me.

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CommanderPhoenix wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:45 am The feedback and awards surveys are here!
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Shin Ultraman kaiju, Gigan Miles, and even Daimajin aren't too surpising from the teaser images, but Mt. Lady? That's a shocker to me.
I know, right. That took me for a loop

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CommanderPhoenix wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:45 am The feedback and awards surveys are here!
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Shin Ultraman kaiju, Gigan Miles, and even Daimajin aren't too surpising from the teaser images, but Mt. Lady? That's a shocker to me.
Two other kaiju are all teased, not going to say due to the spoiler ban.
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CommanderPhoenix wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:45 am The feedback and awards surveys are here!
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Shin Ultraman kaiju, Gigan Miles, and even Daimajin aren't too surpising from the teaser images, but Mt. Lady? That's a shocker to me.
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Oddly excited for Mt. Lady. Wasn't into the idea initially, but she scratches that "Attack of the 50 Foot Woman" itch, which is kind of nostalgic... She's just more modern. And anime.
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Ayy, Daimajin! We finally have another Kadokawa kaiju!

Mount Lady is also a surprised, but if a match with her has any spoilers for MHA I may have to skip it. I'm not caught up yet. :lol: And of course, Neronga and Gabora will also make welcome addition!

Also quite notable that is the first poll in a while where we don't vote for a new monster to make it in, but considering there's already a boatload who haven't got in yet, I think that's okay.
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The match was alright, about time Dogora won, it's only been a few years. Honestly, an alright way to open the year up, I'm never a big fan of Dogora matches, and with it being a short match, I would say at best it's alright for a match. An ending like that for a short match doesn't really stick well with me either. I'll give the match a 5/10.
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Regarding the surveys, the question of "new monsters outside of toho jurisdiction"....

Don't we have the KWCE for that? I feel like with a recently teased addition at the end of the awards survey, and Rayquaza (who avoids this issue mostly but should be brought up) clashing with the realistic art style usually seen in the banners, I feel like the line between KWCE and KWC is being blurred.
I know that we're never getting things like... Bowser, Gipsy Danger (the Toho-Towa stuff is a can of worms on it's own) and other things in the KWC, but I feel these two in particular due to having no live action rendition (Rayquaza came close in Detective Pikachu apparently!), is there a fear between the higher ups of these metaphorical lines being blurred, both in terms of art style and fighters who should really only be in the KWCE?
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The new match wasn't the best, but it was a fair attempt from who appears to be a new writer.
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It'll be neat to see whether or not that cliffhanger with Winters actually goes somewhere.
One other thing is the banner. Dogora looks kinda off. I know it was ripped straight from Planet of the Monsters, but it kinda just looks like Orochi is fighting a cardboard cutout.
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Moth wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 am both in terms of art style and fighters who should really only be in the KWCE?
Art style isn’t a concern because (1: we won’t add anything that doesn’t have a proper 3D model to work with (even if it is just figures, modern figures tend to be real high quality, no jank-ass Cyber Godzilla in banners for anything new we have in mind) and (2: We have talented banner makers who know how to compose a banner such that a difference in style isn’t too jarring.

“Fighters who should only be in the KWCE” is incredibly subjective. Nobody is going to agree on what exactly that means. New monsters go through rigorous discussion among staff, and let me tell you from experience, our staff is not a homogeneous bunch that all just immediately agree unless it’s something like “is the sky blue” (and even then I’m not sure, lol). We are very careful about new combatants, and while yes not everyone who reads and writes for the KWC is going to accept every one of them, we just ask that an open mind is kept and that y’all understand we don’t just draw names out of a hat and go “add them to the roster”.
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So I haven't finished the newest match yet, but I can at least help clarify the following:
Moth wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 am Regarding the surveys, the question of "new monsters outside of toho jurisdiction"....

Don't we have the KWCE for that?
Yes and that is probably not changing. While I'm not making decisions about the K.W.C. since my step away from the site last May, I do know Anthony was rather absolute about not including non-Toho IP. Matches that have had direct references to other IP, like Rhiahn vs. Attack Titan, were changed because of their overt use of non-Toho characters.

I do wonder about the inclusion of said question, because I don't think Anthony seeing 99% of fans wanting non-Toho characters is going to get him to budge because yeah, that result is obvious, especially for specific IP like the Jaegers of Pacific Rim.
Moth wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 6:12 am ...is there a fear between the higher ups of these metaphorical lines being blurred, both in terms of art style and fighters who should really only be in the KWCE?
And again, with my explanation above, there shouldn't really be any fear. Because the KWCE has non-Toho stuff while the KWC only has Toho stuff. I don't think that line will be broken.

As for art styles, I get that fear, but so long as there are workable models and proper direction for said artists, it should be fine. Like GvR said.
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Greyshot151 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:24 am
Yes and that is probably not changing. While I'm not making decisions about the K.W.C. since my step away from the site last May, I do know Anthony was rather absolute about not including non-Toho IP. Matches that have had direct references to other IP, like Rhiahn vs. Attack Titan, were changed because of their overt use of non-Toho characters.

I do wonder about the inclusion of said question, because I don't think Anthony seeing 99% of fans wanting non-Toho characters is going to get him to budge because yeah, that result is obvious, especially for specific IP like the Jaegers of Pacific Rim.
It’s not referring to stuff like Pacific Rim, it means stuff like Ultraman/Gamera/Monster Hunter, where there is a connection but it isn’t a Toho property. It’s essentially asking if we should try to branch out more into stuff Toho is connected to but doesn’t own and search for more things Toho is connected to, or keep more in the umbrella of Toho’s direct properties.

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Also, the new match, it’s a fun little romp, solid first match for a new writer and with some entertaining action, great usage of Dogora.
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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:38 am It’s not referring to stuff like Pacific Rim, it means stuff like Ultraman/Gamera/Monster Hunter, where there is a connection but it isn’t a Toho property.
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Also, the new match, it’s a fun little romp, solid first match for a new writer and with some entertaining action, great usage of Dogora.
My bad. Totally misremembered the question and based on context, assumed it was implying for usage of Toho's distribution library. But yeah, if Toho has a hand in its distribution, the KWC has access. The KWCE is for EVERYTHING else.
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I mostly mean like, in terms of "Fighters who should only be in the KWCE", I mean ones like the "new monsters outside of Toho jurisdiction from Monster Hunter, Ultraman, etc".

The art style concern is separate from this and while I see Rayquaza himself fitting real well in banners, I have a hard time seeing the same happen with the newest addition. But I trust the banner team to make it work enough. I'm happy they're in there and hope it opens the door to even more anime fighters in the future.

I'm mostly saying is, I don't think that monsters from things not distributed by Toho, even if they're connected to Toho distributed media like Gamera and Ultraman, should be in the KWC if they already have a home in the KWCE.

I'm fine not having Ultraman Belial, Gurion, Zinogre and things like the Mass Produced Evas in the KWC if I can already use them freely in the KWCE. I dunno, I'm in a minority about this I bet. It's really hard to word how I feel? I just think allowing the examples I've named above and their contemporaries just blurs the line between the KWC and KWCE too much for my liking, and I feel like Toho would have enough for more fighters without dipping into that.
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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:38 am
Greyshot151 wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:24 am
Yes and that is probably not changing. While I'm not making decisions about the K.W.C. since my step away from the site last May, I do know Anthony was rather absolute about not including non-Toho IP. Matches that have had direct references to other IP, like Rhiahn vs. Attack Titan, were changed because of their overt use of non-Toho characters.

I do wonder about the inclusion of said question, because I don't think Anthony seeing 99% of fans wanting non-Toho characters is going to get him to budge because yeah, that result is obvious, especially for specific IP like the Jaegers of Pacific Rim.
It’s not referring to stuff like Pacific Rim, it means stuff like Ultraman/Gamera/Monster Hunter, where there is a connection but it isn’t a Toho property. It’s essentially asking if we should try to branch out more into stuff Toho is connected to but doesn’t own and search for more things Toho is connected to, or keep more in the umbrella of Toho’s direct properties.

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Also, the new match, it’s a fun little romp, solid first match for a new writer and with some entertaining action, great usage of Dogora.
Thank you. To say I was stunned when I opened Toho Kingdom today is the understatement of the century lol. and big thanks to Andrew for editing and Dao for making the banner!

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CamtheGodzillafan wrote: Tue Jan 10, 2023 5:22 am The match was alright, about time Dogora won, it's only been a few years. Honestly, an alright way to open the year up, I'm never a big fan of Dogora matches, and with it being a short match, I would say at best it's alright for a match. An ending like that for a short match doesn't really stick well with me either. I'll give the match a 5/10.
Thank you. And for the ending, yeah I’ll admit I’m not fond of it either. I really just put that little ending bit there as kind of a “oh maybe I’ll come back to this in the future”. But I’m glad for the criticism.
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Sorry it took me a while to give my two cents; winter term college has had me holed up.

Anywho, I thought this match was a decent start for a new writer. It may have been a tad shorter than one might expect, but I don’t see that as that big of a takeaway. It was still well-written and described, with satisfying action, good grammar and punctuation, and a delightfully brutal ending.

Welcome to the KWC, Declan Coughlin!
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A nice short and sweet clash and a good debut overall. Wish the new writer luck~!
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