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Coobzilla03 wrote: Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:57 pm I have not seen Shin Godzilla, nor any of the MonsterVerse past 2017's King Kong. Forgive me, Godzilla, for I am a sinner
Go watch Godziban, and you'll be forgiven.
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JAGzilla wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:04 am
Spuro wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2023 11:28 pmNow I like Shin too, but let's not blatantly lie to the guy here...
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Okay, let's try again. Shin is a traditional, authentic Godzilla movie.

It does get creative with the character's aesthetics, but only to sell more Bandai figures in the name of making Godzilla shocking, disturbing, and intimidating for modern audiences.
I find that a strong point of the film.
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Kaiju cinema still hasn't recovered since the release of Kong: King of Atlantis, which was banned for being so damn good. It's King Kong fighting David Kaye, there's no higher summit to surpass. Everyone go home.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:33 pm Kaiju cinema still hasn't recovered since the release of Kong: King of Atlantis, which was banned for being so damn good. It's King Kong fighting David Kaye, there's no higher summit to surpass. Everyone go home.
Monke musical ftw.
GVK: TNE is a modern day 70s Showa Godzilla movie. Being a massive budget modern blockbuster CGI film instead of traditional 70s tokusatsu techniques doesn't change that.

Monsterverse is not similar to either MCU nor Bayformers just because all three are big budget CGI blockbuster franchises.

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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:33 pm Kaiju cinema still hasn't recovered since the release of Kong: King of Atlantis, which was banned for being so damn good. It's King Kong fighting David Kaye, there's no higher summit to surpass. Everyone go home.
This post has drawn my attention to Kong The Animated series, something I've never seen, and everything I'm looking at is biwildering. People fusing with animals? Is it some kind of Godzilla the Animated series clone? Weird.
Spirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2023 4:54 pm Anno-san pleasures me more than Yamasaki-san.

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LSD Jellyfish wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:01 pm
MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:33 pm Kaiju cinema still hasn't recovered since the release of Kong: King of Atlantis, which was banned for being so damn good. It's King Kong fighting David Kaye, there's no higher summit to surpass. Everyone go home.
This post has drawn my attention to Kong The Animated series, something I've never seen, and everything I'm looking at is biwildering. People fusing with animals? Is it some kind of Godzilla the Animated series clone? Weird.
It's not as good as GTS but KTAS is still great! Kong fights two actual gods in it, it's pretty sick!
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Sounds interesting. I might take a look at it.
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Screw it, I’ll bite. I’ve got a couple I’ve got on my chest for now.

1) I only recently watched the Heisei Gamera movies, and I’m glad I eventually did get to them. Irisu is one of my favorite daikaiju ever, and each movie had something special about them story-wise. I’ve got a new appreciation for that big ol fire turtle.
I had copies of the movies in my collection for years, somehow kept putting them off. Gonna give the other Gamera movies a watch sometime (I already gave a rewatch to the very original a few months ago, as it was the only Gamera movie I had sat down to watch before this last year).

2) The one Godzilla movie I still haven’t checked out is Son of Godzilla. That one I couldn’t tell ya why, despite having watched numerous clips of it. I’m going to remedy that as soon as I can. I don’t have anything against it, but when I was a teen getting into Godzilla, it felt really corny as a concept to me. Now that I’m older I think I can appreciate it better, anyways, so it might work out for the best.
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My confession is that after the really good Godzilla 2014 and the glorious Shin Godzilla in 2016, nothing of interest has been released that carries the name Godzilla in it since 2004 imo. The Anime movies look kinda okayish tho I'm not a fan of animated Godzilla movies. Godzilla Singular Point couldn't catch my interest and the American films went downhill as soon as they decided to rely on fanservice (tho GvK was a huge improvement over KotM). And Godziban kinda creeps me out, especially with the most recent news about and characters in it.

Hoping for the next Godzilla film by Toho to finally break this curse and give me sth decent and watchable.

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I think Son of Godzilla is one of those movies that's best watched for the first time when you're either very young and likely to be unquestioningly entertained by Minya and afraid of the arthropod villains, or well into adulthood once you've mellowed out some and become more willing to embrace your inner child or appreciate the technical aspects of filmmaking. A teenager, naturally rejecting the childish and seeking the cool, edgy, or badass, is probably the least likely person to have fun with this movie. Unlike most of the more recent Godzilla entries, it's just not made to appeal to that mindset.

And yeah, I really have high hopes for the upcoming Toho movie. It's exciting, having Shin as an example of what's possible while still having a blank slate ahead of us. Toho has changed so much in the last few years, it seems like anything can happen now.
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Toho has been trying several new ideas with Godzilla and other kaiju, so there's no telling what will happen next.
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The roar used in the original Cloverfield teaser was cooler than Clover's actual roar and design in the movie.
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While I like the original Shobijin, I feel the Elias are the best of the Mothra priestess. They're the most fleshed out of them.
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edgaguirus wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:55 pm While I like the original Shobijin, I feel the Elias are the best of the Mothra priestess. They're the most fleshed out of them.
Yeah when I think of the Shobijin my mind goes to Lora and Moll. I have a lot of problems with the ROM trilogy but their role and conflict with Belvera was the highlight of those films.
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godjacob wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 12:26 am
edgaguirus wrote: Thu Jan 19, 2023 10:55 pm While I like the original Shobijin, I feel the Elias are the best of the Mothra priestess. They're the most fleshed out of them.
Yeah when I think of the Shobijin my mind goes to Lora and Moll. I have a lot of problems with the ROM trilogy but their role and conflict with Belvera was the highlight of those films.
Quite fittingly for this thread I can say that the RoM movies are very enjoyable to me. Sure they got their cringy moments but the overall stories told are good, the suits and monsters looking cool. And the third one (even though I honestly gotta say I feel like Gidorah is way overused) has some very memorable moments and is such an epic conclusion. Love the depiction of the cretaceous age, the overall storyline and plan of Gidorah. Also the Mothra movies have pretty much the thing so many people complain about in the Hate Heisei/Millenium threads for those movies to be missing - daily life in Japan scenes.
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Dyrakro wrote: Fri Jan 20, 2023 1:45 am Also the Mothra movies have pretty much the thing so many people complain about in the Hate Heisei/Millenium threads for those movies to be missing - daily life in Japan scenes.
Very true. The military is mostly (entirely?) absent from this trilogy, and that's something to recognize and applaud. For all that these movies suffer from other aspects of '90s Heisei execution, they do break the mold by giving us human casts of ordinary civilians with normal lives. Gotta give credit where it's due.
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I can't recall any military action in the ROM trilogy, and we only have two rampage scenes if I'm correct. These stories show ordinary people dealing with extraordinary situations.
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Kind of a meta one here, and I am really playing with fire here. I wish the circumstances that made these movies possible, had never happened. If that means Godzilla as a series never existed, so be it.

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I mean…yeah? I don’t think nuclear warfare and it’s implications is something anyone likes or glad that it exists…except for corrupt politicians and competing superpowers obviously.
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We'd all breathe and sleep easier if there was no nuclear conflict. We all hope.

It does invite the question whether the popularity of BF20,000F might have spawned some other film maker to make a similar monster movie, though one without significant cultural impact. It'd be just another atomic monster on the rampage and easily forgotten except by fans of the genre.
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