Most wasted Kaiju
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In your Opinion what Kaiju in the Ultraseries had such great potential but wasn't used properly or has only one appearance and never returned to do anything special like kiyla or kingsaurus for example
One I can Refer to is the Monster Chief
Geronimon
I mean here were his most accomplishable feats
-first big bad kaiju that could have a monster army
-first monster that was like a chief and was the first big bad
-first monster to revive kaiju
-first monster that expand more on the lore about how all the monsters were under his rule
that's a lot of accomplishment's and his episode was great and he was a good threat but after that he didn't return at all since this day. which is a damn shame since he was such a unique kaiju and was very underrated as there's no other kaiju who could revive that I can think off. Its a damn shame that he hasn't been brought back yet but maybe in the future
but what other kaiju or Seijin you can you think off that was wasted potential
One I can Refer to is the Monster Chief
Geronimon
I mean here were his most accomplishable feats
-first big bad kaiju that could have a monster army
-first monster that was like a chief and was the first big bad
-first monster to revive kaiju
-first monster that expand more on the lore about how all the monsters were under his rule
that's a lot of accomplishment's and his episode was great and he was a good threat but after that he didn't return at all since this day. which is a damn shame since he was such a unique kaiju and was very underrated as there's no other kaiju who could revive that I can think off. Its a damn shame that he hasn't been brought back yet but maybe in the future
but what other kaiju or Seijin you can you think off that was wasted potential
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I think Dorako is a kaiju being way too often wasted. I feel like he could be a quite interesting threat. Aside of Dorako II we've never seen the original, winged & hook-handed form fight an Ultra - just a short glimpse in Ultraman X.
Also Cereza, the first big bad of Ultraman R/B who took control of Aizen Makoto. After the last episode he never got a true conclusion to his story. He was just written off.
Both are of course examples of characters who did have various appearances.
Aside of these two I can't think of any kaijus being actually wasted... most are just underused but they did get their time to shine in at least one episode and got a conclusion to their story.
Also Cereza, the first big bad of Ultraman R/B who took control of Aizen Makoto. After the last episode he never got a true conclusion to his story. He was just written off.
Both are of course examples of characters who did have various appearances.
Aside of these two I can't think of any kaijus being actually wasted... most are just underused but they did get their time to shine in at least one episode and got a conclusion to their story.
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I don't think many beat Geronimon. His episode feels oddly climactic, and sans the Zetton episode which sort of solidifies Ultraman as Earth's hero works well as a finale for the episode. If Zetton is a resolution for the alien invader episodes, Geronimon is that for the monsters.
Only monster that sort of rivals it is IF. It's from one of the best Max episodes, possibly one of the best In the series. Long and short of it, IF was this continually transforming monster that was invincible. It had a cool design, and was just all out amazing. I think the reason why it probably hasn't come back is that it's original episode is perfect.
There's a ton of weird Leo and Taro monsters which are worth bring back and expanding on, but I doubt it'll happen.
Only monster that sort of rivals it is IF. It's from one of the best Max episodes, possibly one of the best In the series. Long and short of it, IF was this continually transforming monster that was invincible. It had a cool design, and was just all out amazing. I think the reason why it probably hasn't come back is that it's original episode is perfect.
There's a ton of weird Leo and Taro monsters which are worth bring back and expanding on, but I doubt it'll happen.
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Showa King Kong, easy. Dude was knocking back berry juice until he passed out in the dirt.
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Geronimon is a great choice. The episode is good, especially the Ide storyline, but they could have done more to work the Monster Chief into a more threatening character. (Also, is there a discussion thread for the original Ultraman? I haven't seen one but that seems hard to believe.)
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This, all the way. I hated how he was treated in his debut episode. You'd think the kaiju who literally originates from that comet everyone's worrying about would be the main threat but nope! Red King takes the spotlight because he ate a random nuke or something. Say what you want about Powered but at least, it made Dorako memorable as a combatant.
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Dorako shouldve been the monster who fought Ultraman and Honestly; I wouldve had Dorako nearly kill ultraman (not with luck with Gomora but instead with actual fighting and giving him impressive durability) but the Science Patrol send the Comet away and it makes dorako leave the planetCryptid_Liker wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:28 amThis, all the way. I hated how he was treated in his debut episode. You'd think the kaiju who literally originates from that comet everyone's worrying about would be the main threat but nope! Red King takes the spotlight because he ate a random nuke or something. Say what you want about Powered but at least, it made Dorako memorable as a combatant.
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I'd love to see Geronimon return. Also Jirass. I mean they keep using Gomess, even with the obvious origin, I don't see why Jirass is off limits.
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That would've been interesting! Love your idea.EarthNeronga wrote: ↑Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:13 pm Dorako shouldve been the monster who fought Ultraman and Honestly; I wouldve had Dorako nearly kill ultraman (not with luck with Gomora but instead with actual fighting and giving him impressive durability) but the Science Patrol send the Comet away and it makes dorako leave the planet
I truly hope Dorako will get a chance one day and finally manage to be the main threat of an episode. Maybe even one that gets to beat an Ultra. TsuPro still got a working suit after all.
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Every Kaiju from Ultraman 80 were wasted.
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Practically all the Nexus kaiju. Especially Nosferu and Esmael. Esmael is way cooler than most the other hybrid boss monsters who I typically find kinda derpy. He doesn't even have any figures.
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Geronimon is a monster that is RIPE with wasted potential. He could legit be a New Gen movie villian and actually use his powers and raise up an army of kaiju. I'm still surprised he has yet to return. He is, without a doubt, the number one wasted kaiju that comes to mind.
There's a good number of kaiju that are sitting in the Showa/Heisei era just collecting dust that would absolutely shine in the modern era. Goldras is another that has been completely wasted since his debut. His King version didn't act anything like him, nor even utilize the time/space powers he uses. There's so much they could do with him now that the Ultra multiverse is blown open and other weird kaiju have become the norm, like Bulton and Greeza. They could legit turn Goldras into a sort of predator of these "living but not actually alive voids" and have him prey on Greezas and Bultons. When Trigger was announced, I was so excited to maybe see Goldras back. Alas... Nope.
I may be biased on the next one because it's one of my favorites and my favorite Chouju from Ultraman Ace, but Lunatyx. The fact Aribunta gets more attention than Lunatyx is just dumb. The big three Chouju (Vakishim, Doragoris and Velokron), I understand why they get love. But why not Lunatyx? Such a unique looking kaiju with crazy powers.
Dorako is another I feel that is wasted. A cool design and yet he NEVER fights an Ultra. The only time they actually fought was in Powered. Dorako needs a Dorako-centric episode, even if he is really just a monster of the week type.
Gudon and Birdon being turned into jobber kaiju since Mebius is just annoying too. Once again, I may be biased because these two are legit my favorite Ultra kaiju. Birdon was originally a serious threat, had a three-parter and killed Taro and Zoffy. Gudon is a super predator that feeds on other kaiju and was treated as something akin to Gomora in his debut in Return of Ultraman. However, now they just pop up to be fodder whenever.
Galberos... Also my favorite Nexus kaiju... Is way overdo a proper return. His illusions with modern effects/camera work would be awesome. I was expecting him to show up back in R/B, honestly. The fact they could of had him make illusions that forced the brothers to fight one another in an episode and didn't... Just wasted potential. They could have done the same thing in Taiga, Z... Or really, any show with multiple Ultras. Way overdo.
Night Fang. One of the absolute coolest New Gen debuting kaiju. Hasn't been seen since Taiga. With a Lovercraftian design and supernatural origin with crazy powers... Do not waste him, PLEASE.
There's a good number of kaiju that are sitting in the Showa/Heisei era just collecting dust that would absolutely shine in the modern era. Goldras is another that has been completely wasted since his debut. His King version didn't act anything like him, nor even utilize the time/space powers he uses. There's so much they could do with him now that the Ultra multiverse is blown open and other weird kaiju have become the norm, like Bulton and Greeza. They could legit turn Goldras into a sort of predator of these "living but not actually alive voids" and have him prey on Greezas and Bultons. When Trigger was announced, I was so excited to maybe see Goldras back. Alas... Nope.
I may be biased on the next one because it's one of my favorites and my favorite Chouju from Ultraman Ace, but Lunatyx. The fact Aribunta gets more attention than Lunatyx is just dumb. The big three Chouju (Vakishim, Doragoris and Velokron), I understand why they get love. But why not Lunatyx? Such a unique looking kaiju with crazy powers.
Dorako is another I feel that is wasted. A cool design and yet he NEVER fights an Ultra. The only time they actually fought was in Powered. Dorako needs a Dorako-centric episode, even if he is really just a monster of the week type.
Gudon and Birdon being turned into jobber kaiju since Mebius is just annoying too. Once again, I may be biased because these two are legit my favorite Ultra kaiju. Birdon was originally a serious threat, had a three-parter and killed Taro and Zoffy. Gudon is a super predator that feeds on other kaiju and was treated as something akin to Gomora in his debut in Return of Ultraman. However, now they just pop up to be fodder whenever.
Galberos... Also my favorite Nexus kaiju... Is way overdo a proper return. His illusions with modern effects/camera work would be awesome. I was expecting him to show up back in R/B, honestly. The fact they could of had him make illusions that forced the brothers to fight one another in an episode and didn't... Just wasted potential. They could have done the same thing in Taiga, Z... Or really, any show with multiple Ultras. Way overdo.
Night Fang. One of the absolute coolest New Gen debuting kaiju. Hasn't been seen since Taiga. With a Lovercraftian design and supernatural origin with crazy powers... Do not waste him, PLEASE.
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Fucking Lunaticks needs to return; she was fucking wasted
Same with the Giras brothers,Kiyla,Kingsaurus III and of course Mechagiras and Crescent and Majaba and Goldras
Same with the Giras brothers,Kiyla,Kingsaurus III and of course Mechagiras and Crescent and Majaba and Goldras
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Hard agree on all counts, especially the Giras brothers.EarthNeronga wrote: ↑Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:57 pm Same with the Giras brothers,Kiyla,Kingsaurus III and of course Mechagiras and Crescent and Majaba and Goldras
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It is surprising we've never gotten a proper "Ultraman vs. Dorako" episode, barring Powered. Considering the Dorako suit hasn't been seen since X, it's very likely beyond use. A shame.
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I don't know about that. The Red King suit first used in Max was JUST retired in Decker after being converted into Sphere Red King. Gudon's suit, which was also just announced to be retiring in Decker, has existed since Mebius.MaxRebo320 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:18 pm It is surprising we've never gotten a proper "Ultraman vs. Dorako" episode, barring Powered. Considering the Dorako suit hasn't been seen since X, it's very likely beyond use. A shame.
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Red King and Gudon are higher priority monsters than Dorako. I'd imagine a lot has to do with how important it is to the effects crew to keep certain suits in good condition.Mac Daddy MM wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:23 amI don't know about that. The Red King suit first used in Max was JUST retired in Decker after being converted into Sphere Red King. Gudon's suit, which was also just announced to be retiring in Decker, has existed since Mebius.MaxRebo320 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:18 pm It is surprising we've never gotten a proper "Ultraman vs. Dorako" episode, barring Powered. Considering the Dorako suit hasn't been seen since X, it's very likely beyond use. A shame.
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I also don't really know about that either. Red King is always treated with some "respect" when they make their appearances. Gudon, not so much. Not since his return debut in Mebius. He's been regulated to just canon fodder. I can't think of a single time since his initial redebut where he's had an actual episode just dedicated to him. Telesdon is another monster suit that's been around for a LONG time and has been kept in good shape, and I'd rank him around the same "priority" as Dorako. The modern Gesura suit as well.Legion1979 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:56 amRed King and Gudon are higher priority monsters than Dorako. I'd imagine a lot has to do with how important it is to the effects crew to keep certain suits in good condition.Mac Daddy MM wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:23 amI don't know about that. The Red King suit first used in Max was JUST retired in Decker after being converted into Sphere Red King. Gudon's suit, which was also just announced to be retiring in Decker, has existed since Mebius.MaxRebo320 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 04, 2023 1:18 pm It is surprising we've never gotten a proper "Ultraman vs. Dorako" episode, barring Powered. Considering the Dorako suit hasn't been seen since X, it's very likely beyond use. A shame.
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I always saw the Decker Episode with him as a episode centered around him, Telesdon,Pagos,Twin Tail and Return of AgiraMac Daddy MM wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 11:45 amI also don't really know about that either. Red King is always treated with some "respect" when they make their appearances. Gudon, not so much. Not since his return debut in Mebius. He's been regulated to just canon fodder. I can't think of a single time since his initial redebut where he's had an actual episode just dedicated to him. Telesdon is another monster suit that's been around for a LONG time and has been kept in good shape, and I'd rank him around the same "priority" as Dorako. The modern Gesura suit as well.Legion1979 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:56 amRed King and Gudon are higher priority monsters than Dorako. I'd imagine a lot has to do with how important it is to the effects crew to keep certain suits in good condition.Mac Daddy MM wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 9:23 am
I don't know about that. The Red King suit first used in Max was JUST retired in Decker after being converted into Sphere Red King. Gudon's suit, which was also just announced to be retiring in Decker, has existed since Mebius.
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