Monarch: Legacy of Monsters on AppleTV+ [Weekly Ongoing Discussion]

[LegendZilla]

WB is definitely a mess right now, and when we factor in the debacle and alleged lawsuit over the abrupt decision by WB to bring GvK and Dune to HBO Max without asking Legendary, I wouldn't be surprised if Toho and Legendary are feeling around for a different distributor. It'd be kinda neat if they went to Universal, as that would solve some problems with the King Kong rights.

Legendary tried working with Universal, but it ended in failure.

One step closer to seeing the Disney logo before Godzilla.

I'd settle for Paramount.

[CyberZilla]

I'd settle for Paramount.

They would run Godzilla and the MV into the damn ground. I do not trust them to handle that IP at all.

[LegendZilla]

I'd settle for Paramount.

They would run Godzilla and the MV into the damn ground. I do not trust them to handle that IP at all.

Why would they be worse than any other Hollywood studio?

[CyberZilla]

Why would they be worse than any other Hollywood studio?

I’ll admit I exaggerated with that, but I’ve heard bad things of what they did to the Halo series and how they handled Master Chief. I would prefer to avoid a situation like that. I also do not trust the likes of Viacom (now rebranded/merged with Paramount) considering how they handled many Nickelodeon properties in the past. Doubt it would be too much worse than other studios, sure, but imo it would still be a misstep.

[LegendZilla]

Why would they be worse than any other Hollywood studio?

I’ll admit I exaggerated with that, but I’ve heard bad things of what they did to the Halo series and how they handled Master Chief. I would prefer to avoid a situation like that. I also do not trust the likes of Viacom (now rebranded/merged with Paramount) considering how they handled many Nickelodeon properties in the past. Doubt it would be too much worse than other studios, sure, but imo it would still be a misstep.

So then who do you trust?

[CyberZilla]

Why would they be worse than any other Hollywood studio?

I’ll admit I exaggerated with that, but I’ve heard bad things of what they did to the Halo series and how they handled Master Chief. I would prefer to avoid a situation like that. I also do not trust the likes of Viacom (now rebranded/merged with Paramount) considering how they handled many Nickelodeon properties in the past. Doubt it would be too much worse than other studios, sure, but imo it would still be a misstep.

So then who do you trust?

I’m one of the people who thinks Universal could.

[NSZ]

I’ll admit I exaggerated with that, but I’ve heard bad things of what they did to the Halo series and how they handled Master Chief. I would prefer to avoid a situation like that. I also do not trust the likes of Viacom (now rebranded/merged with Paramount) considering how they handled many Nickelodeon properties in the past. Doubt it would be too much worse than other studios, sure, but imo it would still be a misstep.

So then who do you trust?

I’m one of the people who thinks Universal could.

Universal wants nothing to do with Godzilla, and the last time Legendary worked with Uni, we got Pacific Rim: Uprising.

Absolutely not.

[Xx_The_Masquerade_xX]

Warner Bro's is probably the safest bet for Godzilla and Kong now.

Warner's is attempting to fix there DC part and want more ''event films'' as stated by the new current CEO. Which is what Legendary and Toho both want for Godzilla.

Universal has a poor working relationship with Legendary and have little to no interest in Godzilla, Sony would butcher it, Disney wouldn't bother with Godzilla or Kong. Paramount does have ''A Quiet Place, Sonic the Hedgehog, and the current Scream trilogy''

Off topic anyone else hearing test Screenings for ''Evil Dead Rise'' were fantastic and instead of an HBO Max release there now considering a theatrical release which is why there is no trailer despite supposedly having a October release? Hope that's true!

[miguelnuva]

Why would they be worse than any other Hollywood studio?

I’ll admit I exaggerated with that, but I’ve heard bad things of what they did to the Halo series and how they handled Master Chief. I would prefer to avoid a situation like that. I also do not trust the likes of Viacom (now rebranded/merged with Paramount) considering how they handled many Nickelodeon properties in the past. Doubt it would be too much worse than other studios, sure, but imo it would still be a misstep.

Master Chief suffered from he wasn't 100% like the video game so it was wrong syndrome.

Paramount atleast went a fixed Sonic.

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Warner Bro's is probably the safest bet for Godzilla and Kong now.

Warner's is attempting to fix there DC part and want more ''event films'' as stated by the new current CEO. Which is what Legendary and Toho both want for Godzilla.

Universal has a poor working relationship with Legendary and have little to no interest in Godzilla, Sony would butcher it, Disney wouldn't bother with Godzilla or Kong. Paramount does have ''A Quiet Place, Sonic the Hedgehog, and the current Scream trilogy''

Off topic anyone else hearing test Screenings for ''Evil Dead Rise'' were fantastic and instead of an HBO Max release there now considering a theatrical release which is why there is no trailer despite supposedly having a October release? Hope that's true!

The Discovery CEO is canceling films and shows to get tax write offs. I believe event films when I see them.

[Gojira2K]

Warner Bro's is probably the safest bet for Godzilla and Kong now.

Warner's is attempting to fix there DC part and want more ''event films'' as stated by the new current CEO. Which is what Legendary and Toho both want for Godzilla.

Universal has a poor working relationship with Legendary and have little to no interest in Godzilla, Sony would butcher it, Disney wouldn't bother with Godzilla or Kong. Paramount does have ''A Quiet Place, Sonic the Hedgehog, and the current Scream trilogy''

Off topic anyone else hearing test Screenings for ''Evil Dead Rise'' were fantastic and instead of an HBO Max release there now considering a theatrical release which is why there is no trailer despite supposedly having a October release? Hope that's true!

Genuine question, why do you think Disney wouldn’t bother with Godzilla or Kong?

[Garzon]

In hindsight, it really is a blessing that this and the Skull Island show were never going to be on HBO Max.

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Warner Bro's is probably the safest bet for Godzilla and Kong now.

Warner's is attempting to fix there DC part and want more ''event films'' as stated by the new current CEO. Which is what Legendary and Toho both want for Godzilla.

Universal has a poor working relationship with Legendary and have little to no interest in Godzilla, Sony would butcher it, Disney wouldn't bother with Godzilla or Kong. Paramount does have ''A Quiet Place, Sonic the Hedgehog, and the current Scream trilogy''

Off topic anyone else hearing test Screenings for ''Evil Dead Rise'' were fantastic and instead of an HBO Max release there now considering a theatrical release which is why there is no trailer despite supposedly having a October release? Hope that's true!

Genuine question, why do you think Disney wouldn’t bother with Godzilla or Kong?

Disney doesn’t seem to like being involved in movies that they don’t have a full stake in.

[Handsome Shrek]

Keep Disney the fuck away from Godzilla. Say what you want about the Monsterverse, but at least it treats it’s title characters with the respect they deserve

Godzilla is an absolute tank in the Monsterverse, as he should be. He’s a rightfully badass force of nature. Meanwhile Disney continues nerfing all sorts of beloved characters left and right, particularly in regards to Marvel

They turned fucking Hulk into some overly-muscular nerd. And turned Thor into a clown. Godzilla is right at home with Legendary and WB

[Xx_The_Masquerade_xX]

Genuine question, why do you think Disney wouldn’t bother with Godzilla or Kong?

Fact is Disney already has a lots of characters there already expanding on, getting ready to introduce and setting up for the future for the next 10 years and neither Godzilla or Kong are part of it.

An while both Godzilla and Kong are well known iconic characters currently neither of there solo films have surpassed 600$ million yet, we can really only estimate how much GvK would have made if Covid and HBO MAX wasn't a thing. So unless they were going to have a major role in multiple Marvel films leading up to or an Avengers movie it's unlikely Disney would want to make any sort of deal with Toho/Legendary.

Remember they also dropped the Chronicles of Narnia series after the 2nd film Prince Caspian underperformed and that made more than KOTM at the box office.

[Legion1979]

Keep Disney the fuck away from Godzilla. Say what you want about the Monsterverse, but at least it treats it’s title characters with the respect they deserve

Godzilla is an absolute tank in the Monsterverse, as he should be. He’s a rightfully badass force of nature. Meanwhile Disney continues nerfing all sorts of beloved characters left and right, particularly in regards to Marvel

They turned fucking Hulk into some overly-muscular nerd. And turned Thor into a clown. Godzilla is right at home with Legendary and WB

Do you really think Disney even gives a shit about Godzilla?

Disney's MO is to outright buy IPs they want to make money off of. Toho ain't selling and Disney doesn't care. Godzilla doesn't make "Disney blockbuster" cash.

[LegendZilla]

^The fact that they’ve had a rather unsuccessful year so far is karma if you ask me.

[GojiSquid]

They turned skreeonking Hulk into some overly-muscular nerd. And turned Thor into a clown. Godzilla is right at home with Legendary and WB

MCU fanboys popping a blood vessel when their imaginary green man does yoga and therapy instead of throwing cars.

[Legion1979]

^The fact that they’ve had a rather unsuccessful year so far is karma if you ask me.

Still miles better than the shitshow happening at WB right now.

[Garzon]

If Legendary were to find a new partner for the MonsterVerse, it probably wouldn’t be Disney. Again, Disney doesn’t seem to care for IP’s that they don’t have full ownership of. Besides, they already have more than enough on their plate. I don’t see where kaiju movies would fit into their plans.

It also seems pretty safe to assume that Universal wouldn’t be an option either, as they already had a falling out with Legendary. In terms of the Big Five Hollywood studios, that leaves Sony and Paramount. Frankly though, I think it’s more likely that Legendary would just move on to Netflix or Apple.

[miguelnuva]

^The fact that they’ve had a rather unsuccessful year so far is karma if you ask me.

Still miles better than the shitshow happening at WB right now.

I wouldn't call Disney unsuccessful just because their films haven't hit 1B. The MCU is more or less restarting right now.

[Gojira2K]

^The fact that they’ve had a rather unsuccessful year so far is karma if you ask me.

Still miles better than the shitshow happening at WB right now.

I wouldn't call Disney unsuccessful just because their films haven't hit 1B. The MCU is more or less restarting right now.

Based on Comic Con, they seem to more or less know where they are going now, so it might pick up quality a little more going forward.