Say Something Positive About The Anime Trilogy
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How about that Biollante esq theme opening?
Yeah, Godzilla wins... sometimes. I mean, he was killed by Dr. Serizawa's patented bubble-bath formula, heartburn, missiles, and poor box office returns, got his ass kicked by a drunken, circus-escaped gorilla, then he was beaten by two newborn worms, yeah some “king”.
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It's over.
Lumpy PS2 Godzilla, the Mechagodzilla that is mentioned but never shows up, Silhouette Mothra, and Gummy Worm Ghidorah are in the rearview.
Onward to KotM, which looks spectacular.
Lumpy PS2 Godzilla, the Mechagodzilla that is mentioned but never shows up, Silhouette Mothra, and Gummy Worm Ghidorah are in the rearview.
Onward to KotM, which looks spectacular.
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It actually has a message by the end of the third film, and gave us the most powerful Godzilla incarnation in recent history: a merciless, destructive force of nature that would mop the floor with Legendary’s Godzilla if they met.
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Legendary was never meant to be one of the OP Godzilla's, he's just Early Showa 2.0, hence the more flamey breath and hence why Kong was still hurt by bulllets just without the dying part. If Legendary was one of the OP laser spammers like what we've been getting then they'd have to beef up Kong even more, possibly even give him lightning powersagain.NBG2 wrote:It actually has a message by the end of the third film, and gave us the most powerful Godzilla incarnation in recent history: a merciless, destructive force of nature that would mop the floor with Legendary’s Godzilla if they met.
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Tbh when it comes to giant monsters, there is a certain point where it becomes too much. Godzilla Earth, imo, crosses that point by a fucking landslide. The fact that he's so ridiculously huge and is basically every "power stats" fanboy's dream comes with the expense of him being a giant, static mountain that barely does anything except for shooting an overpowered weapon every few seconds. Imo he's probably the most boring incarnation (although some might disagree here, which is completely fine) to date. I appreciate that they tried to give him a few moments of actual reaction and character in Planet Eater, but overall he still felt statue-esque.
Needles to say, i'm also not a huge fan of his design. I like some elements like the spike beard, dorsal plates and metallic nature, but those weird human legs and crackpot face are just hard for me not to laugh at
And of course he'll wipe the floor with Legendary- he will wipe the floor with every single one of the previous Godzilla kaiju by simply stepping on them
Needles to say, i'm also not a huge fan of his design. I like some elements like the spike beard, dorsal plates and metallic nature, but those weird human legs and crackpot face are just hard for me not to laugh at
And of course he'll wipe the floor with Legendary- he will wipe the floor with every single one of the previous Godzilla kaiju by simply stepping on them
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A stale, rote "message" that, as with almost every other time a Luddite moral has been attached to something in history, comes off as half-baked at best and more likely insincere and idiotic.NBG2 wrote:It actually has a message by the end of the third film
You pretty much pulled this straight out of my own head. He's just too damn big and powerful to be at all interesting.Dv-218 wrote:Spoiler tagged for length:Spoiler:
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Pretty much. Come to think about it, he makes for a pretty nice black-and-white contrast with G98- both are the absolute extremes of their own sides of the spectrum. One removes all monstrous and god-like qualities from Godzilla, rendering him a mere animal- while the other multiplies them to the point where it becomes straight up ridiculous. Imo Godzilla is at his most interesting when he's inbetween those spectrums. Even Shin and Heisei are not infallibe JoJo characters.Mecha-SpaceGhidorah wrote:A stale, rote "message" that, as with almost every other time a Luddite moral has been attached to something in history, comes off as half-baked at best and more likely insincere and idiotic.NBG2 wrote:It actually has a message by the end of the third film
You pretty much pulled this straight out of my own head. He's just too damn big and powerful to be at all interesting.Dv-218 wrote:Spoiler tagged for length:Spoiler:
I mean, it isn't a coincidence that both have a massive Chin to boot
The positive aspect of this, however, is that the Godzilla-height measuring contest is finally over
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- Urobuchi slowly but surely built up the classic messages of the dangers of unchecked technology and man having to live in harmony with itself and nature instead of constantly fighting for control.
- Some very well done scenes like Haruo's descion in City On The Edge Of Battle and Haruo observing the atomic bombing in Planet Eater
- Making Haruo less of a shit over time, so we went from a point where we would to being just ambivelent to it.
- Anime Ghidorah rocked. Seriously, aside from a rather unintimidating "battle" with Earth, this incarnation was a cosmic horror the likes of which the character has never been before. Monsterverse got some competiton.
- Some very well done scenes like Haruo's descion in City On The Edge Of Battle and Haruo observing the atomic bombing in Planet Eater
- Making Haruo less of a shit over time, so we went from a point where we would
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- Anime Ghidorah rocked. Seriously, aside from a rather unintimidating "battle" with Earth, this incarnation was a cosmic horror the likes of which the character has never been before. Monsterverse got some competiton.
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I haven’t heard one person mention the dangerous of religion
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Yeah, Godzilla wins... sometimes. I mean, he was killed by Dr. Serizawa's patented bubble-bath formula, heartburn, missiles, and poor box office returns, got his ass kicked by a drunken, circus-escaped gorilla, then he was beaten by two newborn worms, yeah some “king”.
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Yeah, the dangers of over reliance on technology and religion were great.
Also, (spoilers even though I don't think anyone cares anymore)
Also, (spoilers even though I don't think anyone cares anymore)
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ME. FUCKIN. TOO.MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Also, (spoilers even though I don't think anyone cares anymore)Spoiler:
Also, "Godzilla Earth" is one of the coolest names I've ever heard in my life.
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How right you are.Dr. Professor wrote:ME. skreeonkin. TOO.MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: Also, (spoilers even though I don't think anyone cares anymore)Spoiler:
Also, "Godzilla Earth" is one of the coolest names I've ever heard in my life.
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It had a great premise with some good ideas and it established a continuity that lasted more than two movies.
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Really loved the RZA songs in the trilogy.
Yeah, Godzilla wins... sometimes. I mean, he was killed by Dr. Serizawa's patented bubble-bath formula, heartburn, missiles, and poor box office returns, got his ass kicked by a drunken, circus-escaped gorilla, then he was beaten by two newborn worms, yeah some “king”.
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I loved Metphies - to me he was the most interesting character in the entire trilogy.
The Bilusaludo in City on the Edge of Battle also weren't the cliché protagonist you would expect.
I absolutely loved Void Ghidorah - the scene where he destroyed the aratrum was spectacular and I think he's one of my favourite incarnations of Ghidorah.
The Bilusaludo in City on the Edge of Battle also weren't the cliché protagonist you would expect.
I absolutely loved Void Ghidorah - the scene where he destroyed the aratrum was spectacular and I think he's one of my favourite incarnations of Ghidorah.
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I do like that the Bilusaludo at least didn't come off as truly bad guys, just ones with a very different view of the universe. One of the ideas I'd like to have seen more done with actually.
I was really expecting just Metphies to be evil and the rest of the Exif to maybe see Ghidorah as some sort of destruction god, but not actively bring him about.
I was really expecting just Metphies to be evil and the rest of the Exif to maybe see Ghidorah as some sort of destruction god, but not actively bring him about.
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Gonna paste my thoughts from different threads before:
My City on the Edge of Battle review:
Overall, I really like the Polygon trilogy and I hope that as the years pass, the appreciation for it will grow.
My City on the Edge of Battle review:
My general take on the trilogy as a whole:Before watching the film, I was really bummed out to hear about the lack of monster-vs-monster action. That plus the IGN review made me fear for the worse.
However, I really really enjoyed this!
I found the first one okay but this was definitely great for me.
In my eyes, the animation was much more smoother and polished compared to the first film! Character movements arent distracting anymore and the new environments are rendered well.
Actually interesting character dynamics & drama (especially for a kaiju film!) and a very thougtful re-imagining of the Godzilla universe's various humanoid races make for some good stuff even when Godzilla isnt around.
Godzilla has brief screen time but hes peppered throughout the film & takes center stage during the climax. Add to the fact that hes a constant topic of the film's dialogue, and his presence is felt throughout the movie.
Dont expect a monster mash, and go in expecting what we all expected these movies to be: a sci-fi reimagining of the Godzilla universe.
8/10
My thoughts on how the trilogy didn't connect with fans:I really like the Polygon Trilogy and I prefer it over Singular Point. Haruo starts off like a lot of other franchise protagonists but becomes a very interesting character by the trilogy’s end. I also appreciated the trilogy’s perspectives on the classic man vs nature theme and how our societies/cultures are deeply linked to the monsters we fear or worship, like a “You reap what you sow” theme. Living in a society where even academics are still strongly superstitious and believe in folkloric spirits, I love it when the franchise taps into the cultural aspect of giant monsters.
I think the trilogy being, IMO, unfairly compared to the prequel novels, the expectations for kaiju fights in shonen style to "make use" of the medium (I wouldve enjoyed dynamic battles also, but the medium of anime is more than that), the lack of a traditional Mechagodzilla & Ghidorah (while not a 1:1 comparison, the fact that some fans dislike GMK Ghidorah for simply being a good guy reminds me of how some fans really prefer traditional takes on characters), put the trilogy in a tight corner to begin with for some of the fandom.Its also interesting that the prequel novels are very action-heavy, which I think draws some unfair comparisons to the actual anime trilogy movies. Even though they both take place in the same universe, the novels & the movies have very different storytelling approaches.
Overall, I really like the Polygon trilogy and I hope that as the years pass, the appreciation for it will grow.
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Re: Say Something Positive About The Anime Trilogy
“The Golden Demise” alone is an amazing concept and title for Ghidorah, and I always remember that about the trilogy. Planet Eater’s setup and at least some of its executioner were intriguing— the cult elements especially were cool to see and did a great job at exemplifying the terror and powerlessness against these titanic creatures.
I also think the concept of a Godzilla that succeeded and overtook the earth completely is so cool. The fight at the end of Planet of the Monsters and the twist afterward is an amazing idea.
I also think the concept of a Godzilla that succeeded and overtook the earth completely is so cool. The fight at the end of Planet of the Monsters and the twist afterward is an amazing idea.
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The world building. The backstory is great and it makes me wish that we actually got to see it the movies.
It gave us the biggest and most powerful Godzilla ever.
I did like the idea of having nanometal in this trilogy and play an important role in the story.
I really like the Servum. They are some of the best things we got from this trilogy.
The tone in this trilogy is very dark, and I like that.
The cosmic horror vibes of The Planet Eater is top notch.
It gave us the biggest and most powerful Godzilla ever.
I did like the idea of having nanometal in this trilogy and play an important role in the story.
I really like the Servum. They are some of the best things we got from this trilogy.
The tone in this trilogy is very dark, and I like that.
The cosmic horror vibes of The Planet Eater is top notch.
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Re: Say Something Positive About The Anime Trilogy
It had some interesting ideas here and there. That’s it.