I would add to that the constant, senseless changing of meeting rooms, and the continual on-screen updating of Rando's title.LSD Jellyfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:27 pm It certainly wasn't a full-on comedy, but used irony and visual contradiction for satire.
Key comedic memories that always stick with me:
-All the early scientific speculation that is instantly contradicted by direct snapshots of the creature. "It can't get on land!" (proceeds to go on land).
-The helicopters wondering if they should fire, concerned about civilians, and we get that cut to the one elderly lady on the back of some guy evacuating.
-Overly long scenes of asking for approval to do minor things.
-The soba/ramen is cold scene.
It's not that any of these moments are directly "hahaha" funny, and usually have some moral and philosophical questions behind them. However, they seem to be intentionally satirizing attitudes and it's easy to see how someone could find humor from them.
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I remember this scene getting quite a reaction in the theater lol
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Any particular reason why?ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:19 pm This masterpiece of a movie is currently trending on Twitter.
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Probably because of Shin Ultraman.
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Aside from how awesome the movie is, I’m guessing to prepare for Shin Ultraman.LSD Jellyfish wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 9:44 pmAny particular reason why?ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 18, 2022 8:19 pm This masterpiece of a movie is currently trending on Twitter.
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I’m sure it’s been posted here some time before, but I really enjoyed this video critique of shin Godzilla, and I wanted to gauge the forums opinions on them. In general, Accented Cinema argues that Anno’s hyper focus on the bureaucracy with little to no emphasis on the people it directly influences weakens it’s thematic impact, and explains why the film is often accused of being nationalistic, even if it really isn’t.
I don’t fully agree with his points but I do find the discussion he brings up insightful.
I don’t fully agree with his points but I do find the discussion he brings up insightful.
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Along with that, when Japan reached out to the USA for assistance, the USA sent them an "American strategy" which consisted of America bombing virtually all of Tokyo except the American embassy.eabaker wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:55 pmI would add to that the constant, senseless changing of meeting rooms, and the continual on-screen updating of Rando's title.LSD Jellyfish wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 3:27 pm It certainly wasn't a full-on comedy, but used irony and visual contradiction for satire.
Key comedic memories that always stick with me:
-All the early scientific speculation that is instantly contradicted by direct snapshots of the creature. "It can't get on land!" (proceeds to go on land).
-The helicopters wondering if they should fire, concerned about civilians, and we get that cut to the one elderly lady on the back of some guy evacuating.
-Overly long scenes of asking for approval to do minor things.
-The soba/ramen is cold scene.
It's not that any of these moments are directly "hahaha" funny, and usually have some moral and philosophical questions behind them. However, they seem to be intentionally satirizing attitudes and it's easy to see how someone could find humor from them.
The humor is definitely less "pie in your face" and more "cue stick to the nuts", and I love it.
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To be honest, as somebody who enjoys Accented Cinema, I feel like they really missed the mark on this one. They sound a bulk of the runtime complaining about what sets Shin Godzilla apart. You see the movie through the lens of the people tasked with protecting the people of Japan, and you feel it when they fail because of ineptitude and bickering.Jetty_Jags wrote: ↑Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:21 am I’m sure it’s been posted here some time before, but I really enjoyed this video critique of shin Godzilla, and I wanted to gauge the forums opinions on them. In general, Accented Cinema argues that Anno’s hyper focus on the bureaucracy with little to no emphasis on the people it directly influences weakens it’s thematic impact, and explains why the film is often accused of being nationalistic, even if it really isn’t.
I don’t fully agree with his points but I do find the discussion he brings up insightful.
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I know that it's an unpopular opinion on this site, but considering how many years have passed since this movie came out in which we've been mildly flooded with Godzilla content and yet nothing else has come close to being even a quarter as good, heck a sixth as good as Shin so I really do still think that the best thing Toho could do is make a sequel.
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I can only imagine what real-world societal problem they’d satirize with it. There’s so many to choose from.Vakanai wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:59 pm I know that it's an unpopular opinion on this site, but considering how many years have passed since this movie came out in which we've been mildly flooded with Godzilla content and yet nothing else has come close to being even a quarter as good, heck a sixth as good as Shin so I really do still think that the best thing Toho could do is make a sequel.
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I could genuinely see a Shin Godzilla sequel being a Shin Godzilla vs. Shin Ultraman film that, like King Kong vs Godzilla, satirizes the concept of the ‘ol “kaiju crossover brawl” itself.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:22 amI can only imagine what real-world societal problem they’d satirize with it. There’s so many to choose from.Vakanai wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:59 pm I know that it's an unpopular opinion on this site, but considering how many years have passed since this movie came out in which we've been mildly flooded with Godzilla content and yet nothing else has come close to being even a quarter as good, heck a sixth as good as Shin so I really do still think that the best thing Toho could do is make a sequel.
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A way to satrize could be that everyone expects Ultraman to destroy Godzilla and save the day, with lots of companies promoting the bets and showing factions of fanboys arguing. Then you find out Ultraman figures out a peaceful solution to Godzilla and humanity coexisting together. Corporations in the background then try to provoke Godzilla into rampaging to make money. Ultraman eventually figures out what's going, leaves earth in frustration and let's humanity deal with the consequences.Jermobooka wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:35 amI could genuinely see a Shin Godzilla sequel being a Shin Godzilla vs. Shin Ultraman film that, like King Kong vs Godzilla, satirizes the concept of the ‘ol “kaiju crossover brawl” itself.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:22 amI can only imagine what real-world societal problem they’d satirize with it. There’s so many to choose from.Vakanai wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:59 pm I know that it's an unpopular opinion on this site, but considering how many years have passed since this movie came out in which we've been mildly flooded with Godzilla content and yet nothing else has come close to being even a quarter as good, heck a sixth as good as Shin so I really do still think that the best thing Toho could do is make a sequel.
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That would be the most Godzilla Earth-sized ‘OOF!’ ever.darthzilla99 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:50 amA way to satrize could be that everyone expects Ultraman to destroy Godzilla and save the day, with lots of companies promoting the bets and showing factions of fanboys arguing. Then you find out Ultraman figures out a peaceful solution to Godzilla and humanity coexisting together. Corporations in the background then try to provoke Godzilla into rampaging to make money. Ultraman eventually figures out what's going, leaves earth in frustration and let's humanity deal with the consequences.Jermobooka wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:35 amI could genuinely see a Shin Godzilla sequel being a Shin Godzilla vs. Shin Ultraman film that, like King Kong vs Godzilla, satirizes the concept of the ‘ol “kaiju crossover brawl” itself.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:22 am
I can only imagine what real-world societal problem they’d satirize with it. There’s so many to choose from.
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Could that happen? Without spoiling the new movie, cause I'm avoiding spoilers, does Shin Ultraman take place in the same world as Shin Godzilla?Jermobooka wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:35 amI could genuinely see a Shin Godzilla sequel being a Shin Godzilla vs. Shin Ultraman film that, like King Kong vs Godzilla, satirizes the concept of the ‘ol “kaiju crossover brawl” itself.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 11:22 amI can only imagine what real-world societal problem they’d satirize with it. There’s so many to choose from.Vakanai wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 2:59 pm I know that it's an unpopular opinion on this site, but considering how many years have passed since this movie came out in which we've been mildly flooded with Godzilla content and yet nothing else has come close to being even a quarter as good, heck a sixth as good as Shin so I really do still think that the best thing Toho could do is make a sequel.
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Maybe is literally the answer the film makers gave it, so.. take that as your answer i guess lol
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I think that is actually a better way to handle it than giving the audience a definitive answer. Really can't wait to watch this whenever it's available here.
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It seems that both Shinji Higuchi and Anno prefer things being kept that way.Vakanai wrote: ↑Wed May 18, 2022 3:57 pmI think that is actually a better way to handle it than giving the audience a definitive answer. Really can't wait to watch this whenever it's available here.
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I like the open ended nature of Shin’s ending. I hope it never gets a true sequel. Same for Gamera 3.
I think western culture is uncomfortable with ambiguity in endings….and that’s a shame.
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For some people, does keeping things vague and ambiguous help to suspend disbelief?king_ghidorah wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 3:05 pm I like the open ended nature of Shin’s ending. I hope it never gets a true sequel. Same for Gamera 3.
I think western culture is uncomfortable with ambiguity in endings….and that’s a shame.
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