General Gamera Thread

[LegendZilla]

^From what I hear Kurata's character is supposed to be a reference to the epidemic Japan was facing with crazy cultists like that Aum Shinrikyo group. The idea itself was just largely lost in translation.

[shadowgigan]

^From what I hear Kurata's character is supposed to be a reference to the epidemic Japan was facing with crazy cultists like that Aum Shinrikyo group. The idea itself was just largely lost in translation.

That is so interesting. I really struggle with the character sometimes, and that explains a lot. I still enjoy him.

Added in 4 minutes 48 seconds:
Does anyone know if Kaneko or Higuchi have spoken on the decision to use CGI in Gamera 3? I'd love to hear more about it. It seems like those effects really stood the test of time.

[GodzillaFan1990's]

Maybe cringe wasn't exactly the right word. Corny is probably a more proper term.

[GodzillaFan1990's]

It's a pipe dream but I'd love Genndy Tartakovsky to do a Gamera animated series in the style and approach of Primal.

As seen with that animation on YouTube.

Show wouldn't be as graphic as Primal is but still brutal that of the Heisei Gamera Trilogy.

[LegendZilla]

^If we can’t get a Gamera film any time soon, why not in comic book form?

[GodzillaFan1990's]

Also for such a cartoon.

Genndy Tartakovsky as the creator and writer.

Guillermo del Toro as producer.

Shusuke Kaneko as also a writer.

Perfection.

Also a Gamera animated movie by Sony Animation with the writers of Into the Spider-Verse and The Mitchells vs. The Machines at helm. I'd also kill for a Laika Films Gamera movie, the studio that gave us Kubo and the Two Strings.

[miguelnuva]

Gamera has done pretty much everything in the book he can do accept fight Godzilla and get an American film at this point.

[Chrispy_G]

Also for such a cartoon.

Genndy Tartakovsky as the creator and writer.

Guillermo del Toro as producer.

Shusuke Kaneko as also a writer.

Perfection.

Also a Gamera animated movie by Sony Animation with the writers of Into the Spider-Verse and The Mitchells vs. The Machines at helm. I'd also kill for a Laika Films Gamera movie, the studio that gave us Kubo and the Two Strings.

I would pretty much co-sign all of this or any combination of it.

[LegendZilla]

^I would save Tartakovsky to work on Godzilla.

[Kaltes-Herzeleid]

^From what I hear Kurata's character is supposed to be a reference to the epidemic Japan was facing with crazy cultists like that Aum Shinrikyo group. The idea itself was just largely lost in translation.

This...actually explains a lot. I noticed a year or two ago the subtle emphasis on their being a death cult in the Japanese government that clearly have enough sway to influence government decisions and take Ayana to some shrine.

[LSD Jellyfish]

^From what I hear Kurata's character is supposed to be a reference to the epidemic Japan was facing with crazy cultists like that Aum Shinrikyo group. The idea itself was just largely lost in translation.

I can't find much stuff easily in English, but this article, gets the job done:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... sday-cults

A second wave of religious cults arrived in the ‘bubble’ era of the 1970s and 1980s. Easy money and a dizzying pace of change upset the natural order. Society drifted towards amorality and decadence. The lonely, disorientated out-of-towners who had been lured to the big city by the booming economy were easy targets. Gurus offered them a sense of belonging and spiritual succour. This was the fertile ground within which Aum grew.

Aum’s appeal was more specialised than other cults. It recruited from the elite: Tokyo university graduates, lawyers, doctors and businessmen, who, perhaps burdened by the guilt of their success in life, were persuaded to hand over wealth to a charismatic messiah offering salvation from an imminent apocalypse. The leader was an obvious fraud. Asahara began his career peddling a snake oil known as Almighty Medicine (in fact just tangerine peel in alcohol) for $7,000 a shot to the terminally ill. George Orwell, who said that ‘some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them’, might have recognised the dynamic.

Many heavyweight Japanese writers, from Haruki Murakami to Kenzaburo Oe, have focused on the phenomenon of Japan’s cults. The disturbing conclusion is that people joined Aum to reject a ‘system’ in which everyone has a clearly defined but severely limited role. In The Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt wrote that fascism succeeded because it ‘so terrifyingly took care of [the 20th century’s] problems’. The same could be said for Japan’s cults, which still offer an immediate answer to the bewildering consequences of modernity.

Japan isn't unique, similar cults and scenarios have occurred throughout the world.

I also don't think it's entirely based on AUM, or a direct reference, but rather a combination of things. For example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soka_Gakk ... _influence

[LegendZilla]

^From what I hear Kurata's character is supposed to be a reference to the epidemic Japan was facing with crazy cultists like that Aum Shinrikyo group. The idea itself was just largely lost in translation.

I can't find much stuff easily in English, but this article, gets the job done:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... sday-cults

A second wave of religious cults arrived in the ‘bubble’ era of the 1970s and 1980s. Easy money and a dizzying pace of change upset the natural order. Society drifted towards amorality and decadence. The lonely, disorientated out-of-towners who had been lured to the big city by the booming economy were easy targets. Gurus offered them a sense of belonging and spiritual succour. This was the fertile ground within which Aum grew.

Aum’s appeal was more specialised than other cults. It recruited from the elite: Tokyo university graduates, lawyers, doctors and businessmen, who, perhaps burdened by the guilt of their success in life, were persuaded to hand over wealth to a charismatic messiah offering salvation from an imminent apocalypse. The leader was an obvious fraud. Asahara began his career peddling a snake oil known as Almighty Medicine (in fact just tangerine peel in alcohol) for $7,000 a shot to the terminally ill. George Orwell, who said that ‘some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them’, might have recognised the dynamic.

Many heavyweight Japanese writers, from Haruki Murakami to Kenzaburo Oe, have focused on the phenomenon of Japan’s cults. The disturbing conclusion is that people joined Aum to reject a ‘system’ in which everyone has a clearly defined but severely limited role. In The Origins of Totalitarianism, Hannah Arendt wrote that fascism succeeded because it ‘so terrifyingly took care of [the 20th century’s] problems’. The same could be said for Japan’s cults, which still offer an immediate answer to the bewildering consequences of modernity.

Japan isn't unique, similar cults and scenarios have occurred throughout the world.

I also don't think it's entirely based on AUM, or a direct reference, but rather a combination of things. For example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soka_Gakk ... _influence

I know this may be a tad off-topic, but I'm no expert on Hinduism or Bhuddism, and you seem like the kind of guy I could ask if you do have some understanding of them. In particular, I'd like to know their origins, namely if they share a common source like how the Abrahamic faiths do.

[JAGzilla]

This should be taken to another thread, but I will say that Buddhism is sort of the Protestantism to Hinduism's Catholicism. It basically branched out of Hinduism as a reaction to the established clergy kind of dominating the religion and distorting the original idea. Buddhism was more of an everyman's religion, simple and straightforward and more open to everyone.

[LegendZilla]

This should be taken to another thread, but I will say that Buddhism is sort of the Protestantism to Hinduism's Catholicism. It basically branched out of Hinduism as a reaction to the established clergy kind of dominating the religion and distorting the original idea. Buddhism was more of an everyman's religion, simple and straightforward and more open to everyone.

What would make a good name for such a thread?

[JAGzilla]

What would make a good name for such a thread?

Honestly, there are probably existing history or religion threads in General Discussion that would work. I'd dig around a little bit and see what's available before starting a new one.

On-topic: Anybody else think it'd be cool if Gamera got multiple 'forms' in his next movie? Not necessarily a Shin-type deal where he's evolving (although... maybe?), but more of an ROM Mothra scenario where he has multiple forms with different powers/abilities that he can transform into as needed.

[GodzillaFan1990's]

^I would save Tartakovsky to work on Godzilla.

Heavily disagree.

I'd rather he do Gamera, don't know what it is but feel he'd do Gamera way more justice.

That and the similar animation shown on YouTube makes me want it more. Just the idea of a Primal-style Gamera show along with its approach while having the brutality of the Heisei Trilogy.

[Cryptid_Liker]

I'd also kill for a Laika Films Gamera movie, the studio that gave us Kubo and the Two Strings.

This sentence made me mad, not because it's a bad idea but because it hasn't happened yet.

[daveblackeye15]

What would make a good name for such a thread?

Honestly, there are probably existing history or religion threads in General Discussion that would work. I'd dig around a little bit and see what's available before starting a new one.

On-topic: Anybody else think it'd be cool if Gamera got multiple 'forms' in his next movie? Not necessarily a Shin-type deal where he's evolving (although... maybe?), but more of an ROM Mothra scenario where he has multiple forms with different powers/abilities that he can transform into as needed.

Hate to say it but I kinda like that form idea...makes me think of Kirby now.
Gamera beats Barugon and can tap into some ice powers when necessary?

[eabaker]

Anybody else think it'd be cool if Gamera got multiple 'forms' in his next movie? Not necessarily a Shin-type deal where he's evolving (although... maybe?), but more of an ROM Mothra scenario where he has multiple forms with different powers/abilities that he can transform into as needed.

G2 and G3 already took a step in that direction with his transforming arms/flippers.

To me personally, that's as far as it needs to go, but there's no reason it shouldn't be experimented with.

[GodzillaFan1990's]

It'll never happen no doubt but such a crossover would be fitting.

A DC Comics (Aquaman)/Gamera crossover.

Gamera is depicted as Atlantis' most powerful creature under the commend and orders of Aquaman.

Just the idea of Aquaman on top of Gamera going into battle. Epic as skreeonk!

Honestly surprised there hadn't even been any fanart or fanfics regarding this...