Godzilla X Varan, Baragon and Anguirus

[Legion1979]

I wonder why. Is it in part due to the fact he lacks any fantastical abilities and that he debuted in a rushed, mediocre sequel?

The character probably just never caught on.

Do you have anything against the character?

Me? No....why do you ask?

[miguelnuva]

Fans love Angilas here, but the reality is very different in Japan, where the monster has never been that popular.

Angurius was popular in the showa era. Him missing the Heisei era is likely why he took a dip into obscurity by the time GAV was being written.

[edgaguirus]

At least Anguirus has had a decent career. It's not surprising that Varan wasn't remembered. Varan's solo film has none of the feel or effect of the other solo outings, and his only other role is a very brief cameo.

[LegendZilla]

Fans love Angilas here, but the reality is very different in Japan, where the monster has never been that popular.

Angurius was popular in the showa era. Him missing the Heisei era is likely why he took a dip into obscurity by the time GAV was being written.

I think the only reason why he was used so frequently in the later Showa era is because the ‘68 suit held up, not because Toho actually wanted to use him.

[SokogekiGoji]

I still prefer GMK over GVA, even if ghidorah as a protagonist was weird it still had that whimsical and fantastical feel that I think helped differentiate this film.

[edgaguirus]

I would've preferred seeing Anguirus in the movie, but GMK is one the better Godzilla films IMO.

[Jermobooka]

Yup, still wish it was this one that was made.

It would’ve been so cool seeing the Fire, Ice, and Wind elements coming into play more prominently, too.

[Legion1979]

I'm fine with what we got. I dont think the movie would have been nearly as successful if Angilas and Varan were in it. I cant even really picture a satisfying climax with those particular monsters.

[LegendZilla]

I'm fine with what we got. I dont think the movie would have been nearly as successful if Angilas and Varan were in it. I cant even really picture a satisfying climax with those particular monsters.

There is no correlation between success and quality. I mean that from outside of my own opinion on the film.

[miguelnuva]

I'm fine with what we got. I dont think the movie would have been nearly as successful if Angilas and Varan were in it. I cant even really picture a satisfying climax with those particular monsters.

Godzilla just blew all the monsters up, you could have gotten the same movie nearly shot for shot.

[LegendZilla]

This whole franchise has been clinging on to the popularity of Mothra and Ghidorah for too long. Toho needs to branch out and find new ways to revitalize other Kaiju to help them grow in popularity.

[Gigantis]

This whole franchise has been clinging on to the popularity of Mothra and Ghidorah for too long. Toho needs to branch out and find new ways to revitalize other Kaiju to help them grow in popularity.

On one hand, yeah, this is true.

On the OTHER hand though, the last time Toho tried this with Orga and Megaguirus, it didn't work and the two of them got little more than cult followings at best, compared to the smash hit that GMK made literally just a couple years later. Toho isn't gonna give us some of the franchises lesser monsters until the results really show that we want them.

[miguelnuva]

This whole franchise has been clinging on to the popularity of Mothra and Ghidorah for too long. Toho needs to branch out and find new ways to revitalize other Kaiju to help them grow in popularity.

Mothra and Ghidorah fatigue is only a think in western parts of the fandom. Toho serves the Japanese audiance first.

[LegendZilla]

^For the longest time, Marvel clung on mostly to the popularity of both Spiderman and the X-men, especially in later 20th century. Now that the MCU is a thing, virtually all of their characters are A-tier. If Marvel can get their act together and increase the cultural relevance of their characters to an astronomical degree, so can Toho with their B-tier and even C-tier kaiju.

[edgaguirus]

Depending on how long this Monsterverse last, it could be the one to bring back kaiju like Anguirus and Battra. If they can make it big in the international market, Toho could be convinced to try a return.

[LegendZilla]

Depending on how long this Monsterverse last, it could be the one to bring back kaiju like Anguirus and Battra. If they can make it big in the international market, Toho could be convinced to try a return.

Toho should try it themselves first.

[miguelnuva]

^For the longest time, Marvel clung on mostly to the popularity of both Spiderman and the X-men, especially in later 20th century. Now that the MCU is a thing, virtually all of their characters are A-tier. If Marvel can get their act together and increase the cultural relevance of their characters to an astronomical degree, so can Toho with their B-tier and even C-tier kaiju.

You're comparing and .

[LegendZilla]

^For the longest time, Marvel clung on mostly to the popularity of both Spiderman and the X-men, especially in later 20th century. Now that the MCU is a thing, virtually all of their characters are A-tier. If Marvel can get their act together and increase the cultural relevance of their characters to an astronomical degree, so can Toho with their B-tier and even C-tier kaiju.

You're comparing and .

Could you care to elaborate?

[miguelnuva]

^For the longest time, Marvel clung on mostly to the popularity of both Spiderman and the X-men, especially in later 20th century. Now that the MCU is a thing, virtually all of their characters are A-tier. If Marvel can get their act together and increase the cultural relevance of their characters to an astronomical degree, so can Toho with their B-tier and even C-tier kaiju.

You're comparing and .

Could you care to elaborate?

Ghidorah and Mothra are still stars in Japan, the wear out the fandom has for these characters is from the western side of the franchise. Godzilla also has finate movies when ever he returns. If we got a 10 film series from Godzilla for example it would be a blessing.

The mcu has no limit on the movies they want to make. Disney has said before their have Marvel and Star Wars films planned for a century for example.

The Mcu also has to worry about actors. Anyone can be Godzilla, Mothra or Ghidorah because they are the stars or they are cgi. A new Iron Man for example has yo follow in the footsteps on RDJ. All these combined means that the mcu eventually has to take chances on other characters where as Godzilla should take chances but doesn't have to.

[LegendZilla]

You're comparing and .

Could you care to elaborate?

Ghidorah and Mothra are still stars in Japan, the wear out the fandom has for these characters is from the western side of the franchise. Godzilla also has finite movies when ever he returns. If we got a 10 film series from Godzilla for example it would be a blessing.

The mcu has no limit on the movies they want to make. Disney has said before their have Marvel and Star Wars films planned for a century for example.

The Mcu also has to worry about actors. Anyone can be Godzilla, Mothra or Ghidorah because they are the stars or they are cgi. A new Iron Man for example has yo follow in the footsteps on RDJ. All these combined means that the mcu eventually has to take chances on other characters where as Godzilla should take chances but doesn't have to.

It's not like Disney can reboot the MCU completely one day, so I don't consider actors THAT big of a deal. Plus, if Toho had as much money and resources as Disney, allowing them to plan out Godzilla films for a century, would you be making the same argument?