The Jurassic Park/World Series

[barondoggy]

Does anyone here realize that the Jurassic Park / Jurassic World storyline and the original Westworld storyline from the 1970s have the same basic premise; i.e., an amusement park that its creators claim to be perfectly safe and that absolutely nothing can go wrong, only to find out that it isn't and that it does after it's already too late to do anything about either one of these?

Not only that, both of these concepts were originally created by Michael Crichton!

I'd seen the name floating around, but didn't know what Westworld was until now. Having looked it up, you're right, it sounds like Crichton definitely reused his "failed overly ambitious amusement park" concept for Jurassic Park. Hey, there's nothing wrong with using a good idea twice. Especially when the second version involves dinosaurs.

Now that I'm aware of it, Westworld is definitely going on my watch list! Michael Crichton plus Yul Brynner as a killer robot cowboy? Yeah, that's a movie I need to see.

I felt that JURASSIC PARK's plot was a combination of elements from WESTWORLD and THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN (the team of expert specialists in danger in an isolated remote location. SPHERE used this trope too.)

[Voyager]

I'll be seeing this one tomorrow with the boys, I'm excited for a little popcorn flick.

[Kaijucifer]

4/10. Dont waste your money and time. Just wait till August and see Primitive War instead. Movie really fits the meme "Our expectations were LOW but HOLY F*CK".

[JAGzilla]

4/10. Dont waste your money and time. Just wait till August and see Primitive War instead. Movie really fits the meme "Our expectations were LOW but HOLY F*CK".

Elaborate, you vile fiend!

[JAGzilla]

To echo Major's point, a good job is done making the non-mutant dinosaurs feel like actual animals. None of them come across as homicidal monsters, and they seem to have a good range of behaviors and motivations.

- The mosasaur seems mostly territorial or maybe curious rather than predatory, with our merry band of heroes initiating the hostilities.

- The Titanosaurs were busy with courtship and didn't pay the human bugs any mind.

- The Rex was sleeping, then drinking, and felt very realistically predatory in investigating this weird boat full of meat floating down the river. Not like a monster killing just to kill, but more like a cat chasing a baby bird. Doesn't matter if he's hungry or not, the instinct is still going to kick in.

- The Quetzalcoatlus only attacked to defend its nest.

Dolores was a weird outlier in acting like a Disney animal sidekick, but that was obviously studio mandated. Eye-rollingly dumb, but it is what it is. I'm kind of surprised they aren't pushing her merch harder. There are only a few toys and things that I'm aware of.

[SoggyNoodles2016]

Saw it last night.

Solid! Not best sequel since TLW like some are saying lol, but a well done thriller. I appreciate the set pieces and more animal animals. Cast was basic but solid. Really didn't enjoy the forced exposition, slow begining and mutants were wasted but otherwise, fun.

6.5 to 7/10 for me.

[Showa Gyaos]

I found the movie boring for the first 30-40 minutes. After that it was fun when the dinosaurs were on screen. None of the characters besides perhaps Duncan elicited any sympathy from me. I just couldn't connect with them. The dinosaur action was fun, though.

5/10

[MC_Lovecraft]

Dolores was a weird outlier in acting like a Disney animal sidekick, but that was obviously studio mandated. Eye-rollingly dumb, but it is what it is. I'm kind of surprised they aren't pushing her merch harder. There are only a few toys and things that I'm aware of.

And ironically, she's not even the cutest animal in the movie! I really want a Anurognathus plushie.

[daveblackeye15]

She was pretty cute but yeah kinda just there. Baby Blue was cuter. But I don't hate her. Okay sleeping T Rex and Gigantosaurus nuzzling were cuter.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Horrible movie, though it’s my fault for bothering to waste my time watching it.

I’ll keep it brief: everything Rebirth does decently, Godzilla (2014), Godzilla Minus One, and Kong Skull Island does better.

-The opening scene of Godzilla (2014) is way better than the opening scene of Jurassic World Rebirth. It’s functions the same too (setting up a villainous monster+adding tragedy), but G14 is way more tense and just all around better.

-Godzilla Minus One’s 5 minute boat sequence was infinitely more stressful and terrifying than that 20 minute mosasaur/spinosaur chase.

-The Female Muto looking for Brody is way more tense than the final scenes of avoiding the dinosaurs. The small stuff with the D-Rex at the end felt like a worse and lamer version of the Muto escape sequence in G14.

-Want to see a movie where people are picked off one by one by giant creatures on an island? Watch Skull Island.

I’m kinda hoping the general public realizes that giant monsters are cooler than dinosaurs and embraces the MV more.

All of this criticism before we get into obvious stuff like:
-Scarjo does nothing.
-The fact that there’s two mutant dinosaurs adds nothing to the movie. The Indo Rex was peak.
-The film has a low body count, surprisingly.

[JAGzilla]

I’m kinda hoping the general public realizes that giant monsters are cooler than dinosaurs and embraces the MV more.

Somehow everything you said in that post is true (possibly outside of the first sentence) yet still feels like salty, jealous geek bias. This doesn't have to be a competition! Dinosaurs and giant monsters have been happily coexisting since 1933.

[Gojira2K]

I’m kinda hoping the general public realizes that giant monsters are cooler than dinosaurs and embraces the MV more.

Somehow everything you said in that post is true (possibly outside of the first sentence) yet still feels like salty, jealous geek bias. This doesn't have to be a competition! Dinosaurs and giant monsters have been happily coexisting since 1933.

If anything, I feel like it should be, “I hope that the general public will come to love giant monsters in the same way they do dinosaurs, and embrace the MV more”. Cause the public will never stop loving dinosaurs, nothing will change that, ever.

[JAGzilla]

Nope. Dinosaurs are always going to have an advantage over kaiju in that they were (and are) real. Kaiju need to reinvent themselves and change with the times to stay relevant. Dinosaurs are animals and always relevant.

On that note, something I appreciate about Rebirth is that it brought back a paleontologist character in Loomis. The JW trilogy dealt with dinosaurs as living animals: the characters were dinosaur wranglers or paleovets or things like that, but paleontology was basically absent apart from whatever brief snippets we got with Grant in Dominion. Loomis might not have been a very well developed character since irrelevant mutants hijacked the third act, but he was there to bring dinosaurs back to earth and serve as a stand-in for the audience.

[Voyager]

Totally forgot but I watched it yesterday, and it was a very firm 6/10 for me.

Spoiler:

D-Rex was WAAAAAY underutilised.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

The whole "no one cares about dinosaurs anymore" subplot that's been pervasive in all the World films (including this one) just gets more and more unbelievable with each subsequent title, given how these movies continue to rake in truckloads of cash.

[MC_Lovecraft]

I’m kinda hoping the general public realizes that giant monsters are cooler than dinosaurs and embraces the MV more.

What an odd thing to say.

The whole "no one cares about dinosaurs anymore" subplot that's been pervasive in all the World films (including this one) just gets more and more unbelievable with each subsequent title, given how these movies continue to rake in truckloads of cash.

I know, right? I get what they're trying to do with that concept(familiarity breeds contempt and all that), but it feels like at least one writer just doesn't understand the appeal of animals in general, honestly.

[miguelnuva]

I’m kinda hoping the general public realizes that giant monsters are cooler than dinosaurs and embraces the MV more.

What an odd thing to say.

The whole "no one cares about dinosaurs anymore" subplot that's been pervasive in all the World films (including this one) just gets more and more unbelievable with each subsequent title, given how these movies continue to rake in truckloads of cash.

I know, right? I get what they're trying to do with that concept(familiarity breeds contempt and all that), but it feels like at least one writer just doesn't understand the appeal of animals in general, honestly.

The people in Jurassic park have had dinosaurs going in 20 years at that point while Dinosaurs would never not be popular it would definitely turn from I need to go see them now to oh lets go see the Dinosaurs.

Look at Pokémon Go and the Popeyes chicken sandwich for example.

[MC_Lovecraft]

The people in Jurassic park have had dinosaurs going in 20 years at that point while Dinosaurs would never not be popular it would definitely turn from I need to go see them now to oh lets go see the Dinosaurs.

Look at Pokémon Go and the Popeyes chicken sandwich for example.

I'm sure that's the intent, and it even clicks with some of the underlying themes of the series, I'm just not convinced it'd be as widespread as the films imply. The main audience, kids who love dinosaurs, is a constantly renewing resource. Unless there's some kind of Children of Men situation going on in the JP/W world, dinosaur crazy kids and their families would surely keep interest high, you know what I mean? It doesn't hurt the films for me at all, it just rings a little false in my opinion.

[miguelnuva]

The people in Jurassic park have had dinosaurs going in 20 years at that point while Dinosaurs would never not be popular it would definitely turn from I need to go see them now to oh lets go see the Dinosaurs.

Look at Pokémon Go and the Popeyes chicken sandwich for example.

I'm sure that's the intent, and it even clicks with some of the underlying themes of the series, I'm just not convinced it'd be as widespread as the films imply. The main audience, kids who love dinosaurs, is a constantly renewing resource. Unless there's some kind of Children of Men situation going on in the JP/W world, dinosaur crazy kids and their families would surely keep interest high, you know what I mean? It doesn't hurt the films for me at all, it just rings a little false in my opinion.

Yeah, I'm also not trying to say Dinosaurs wouldn't be popular I just see it as for example, we went from making 50m a year to only make 40m a year, poor us people don't like Dinosaurs that much.

Jurassic Park would still be very popular but to the cooperates they see a dip in product so Dinos are not popular even though that's not the case.

[edgaguirus]

Dinosaurs will never go out of fashion because kids and grown up kids still love them. If the movies are making a little less, then it may be down to the quality of the movies rather than the dinos.