Unpopular Godzilla Opinions

[Mechagigan]

Wow, I've never noticed the similarities between those themes. Wonder if it was a sneaky reference, Banno being involved and all.

[mikelcho]

Think I said this before but I want the Monsterverse to use a remix Godzilla's theme from Godzilla vs Hedorah, feels like that would go with this version of Godzilla.

I take it you mean the theme that was also used in Godzilla vs. Megalon and that I've heard called both "the quacking Godzilla theme" and "the drunken uncle Godzilla theme".

[edgaguirus]

"the drunken uncle Godzilla theme".

LOL

[mikelcho]

"the drunken uncle Godzilla theme".

LOL

I'm glad you got a good laugh out of that one. I'm glad somebody did, at least.

[Grand Seijin]

Me personally, I think, in terms of sound design, I think there should be a return to using musical instruments for the monster roars. Put it this way: Godzilla, Rodan, and Anguirus originally used the sounds of a Double Bass, a violin, and a saxophone respectively, to create their roars. Yet, when you hear them, their timbre is something that’s animalistic, but so unlike any animal on this planet; Familiar yet Alien. (Fitting given that they’re supposed to be creatures from a bygone era of time)

Sure, while the use of animal vocalizations for the sounds of Kaiju has and will probably continue to utilized (which is not bad by any means), instruments of all different families can give these kaiju a sound that’s unique and “exotic” so to speak.

[Mechagigan]

Here's a new one - sometimes I wish there wasn't a Minus One sequel on the way, only because I love how creative and random the Reiwa era's been. Shin Godzilla is a big, and very effective swing at horror, Minus One is a sort of retelling of Godzilla's mythos in general - as much as I dislike them, even the Anime movies were very new. I guess what I'm saying is, I'd love to see more insanely distinct takes on the franchise. Minus is an excellent movie, and a great one to build off of, but I will miss the experimentation of the last decade or so.

[Kagutaba]

Shin, I can agree with, I feel a sequel would ruin the ending narrative and conclusion, I never saw the Shin humanoids as sequel bait but a final tag to show us that the threat still looms and we'll have to maintain our unification if we're to survive...

Minus One on the other hand feels like it's setting something up with that Noriko tag.

[edgaguirus]

Shin was a strange and unique take on Godzilla that felt both different and amazing. Reproducing that feeling would be hard, so it's ideal as a one off experience.

[Kagutaba]

There's no more story left to tell with Shin, anything else would feel forced.

[Tyrant_Lizard_King]

Still think an anime short could go pretty hard.

[edgaguirus]

The anniversary shorts were good, so an anime one, long as it's good, would be welcome.

[Voyager]

Here's a new one - sometimes I wish there wasn't a Minus One sequel on the way, only because I love how creative and random the Reiwa era's been. Shin Godzilla is a big, and very effective swing at horror, Minus One is a sort of retelling of Godzilla's mythos in general - as much as I dislike them, even the Anime movies were very new. I guess what I'm saying is, I'd love to see more insanely distinct takes on the franchise. Minus is an excellent movie, and a great one to build off of, but I will miss the experimentation of the last decade or so.

I think it’s just a result of Toho finally finding their footing. Minus One was an unprecedented success not just in Japan but literally everywhere. I’ll miss the experimentation that brought us Shin, but I think a new era of movies where continuity is brought back might be the right way to go from now.

[Legion1979]

Here's a new one - sometimes I wish there wasn't a Minus One sequel on the way, only because I love how creative and random the Reiwa era's been. Shin Godzilla is a big, and very effective swing at horror, Minus One is a sort of retelling of Godzilla's mythos in general - as much as I dislike them, even the Anime movies were very new. I guess what I'm saying is, I'd love to see more insanely distinct takes on the franchise. Minus is an excellent movie, and a great one to build off of, but I will miss the experimentation of the last decade or so.

I think it’s just a result of Toho finally finding their footing. Minus One was an unprecedented success not just in Japan but literally everywhere. I’ll miss the experimentation that brought us Shin, but I think a new era of movies where continuity is brought back might be the right way to go from now.

...and if history is anything to go on I give it two films before the box office dips and Toho panic retires Godzilla again.

[Mechagigan]

I do wonder what'll happen if Minus Two doesn't hit the same stratospheric highs. I imagine it won't be significantly worse, but I also think Toho won't be happy with anything but a success on the same level as the first movie. Feels like a lot is gonna be riding on the movie and I hope that pressure doesn't negatively effect it

[miguelnuva]

Here's a new one - sometimes I wish there wasn't a Minus One sequel on the way, only because I love how creative and random the Reiwa era's been. Shin Godzilla is a big, and very effective swing at horror, Minus One is a sort of retelling of Godzilla's mythos in general - as much as I dislike them, even the Anime movies were very new. I guess what I'm saying is, I'd love to see more insanely distinct takes on the franchise. Minus is an excellent movie, and a great one to build off of, but I will miss the experimentation of the last decade or so.

I think it’s just a result of Toho finally finding their footing. Minus One was an unprecedented success not just in Japan but literally everywhere. I’ll miss the experimentation that brought us Shin, but I think a new era of movies where continuity is brought back might be the right way to go from now.

...and if history is anything to go on I give it two films before the box office dips and Toho panic retires Godzilla again.

MV Godzilla would also have to dip. Toho has said several times they're happy with the MV and if they stopped their Godzilla again the MV would be the face of Godzilla until Legendary stopped.

[Bob Sherlock]

While I don't think Destroy All Monsters is bad, it's quite overrated and doesn't live all that much to its premise. Doesn't help that I don't find the Kilaaks all that interesting as antagonists nor the human story all that compelling.

[Mechagigan]

DAM is a really disappointing movie, at best I'll say it's got that fun, adventurous 60's spirit, but that can only go so far when you're sold on a gigantic monster mash.

[LSD Jellyfish]

...and if history is anything to go on I give it two films before the box office dips and Toho panic retires Godzilla again.

Shin Godzilla + Minus One both made so much money domestically (and internationally) that Minus 2 could fail, and they’d still have incentive to keep trying for the foreseeable future. Both those films made like 4-6 times their budget, maybe more, depending what kinds of calculations you’re using. As long as they’re conservative with their budgets, there’s no reason to not keep chasing the big fish.

[JAGzilla]

The Monsterverse changes the math this time. It's something Toho has never had available before. If their own movies can't maintain the kind of profits they want, Toho can abandon in-house G productions and keep raking in free Monsterverse money. Alternatively, the financial cushion provided by a stable MV might motivate Toho to keep pushing their own movies because there's less risk. We just don't know how they'll choose to see it.

[Kagutaba]

...and if history is anything to go on I give it two films before the box office dips and Toho panic retires Godzilla again.

After all the money Toho invested for global marketing and merchandising I doubt that'd be a financially sound option for them right now.