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LegendZilla wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 6:57 pm HWTFI :

1. A movie had a battle taking place on an alien mothership like the Pipeworks era?
2. Hedorah was shown consuming toxic fumes emitting from a volcano?
3. A JRPG-inspired high-fantasy setting for a Godzilla movie and/or TV show?
4. Arc System works made a Godzilla fighting game?
5. Hiroshi Fujioka appeared in a Godzilla film?
1. That would be a new location, and visual, for the films. I like it.
2. I'm with the above reply. Hedorah has more impact if it gets food from human sources.
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^Why can't Hedorah get food from both?

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LegendZilla wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:05 pm ^Why can't Hedorah get food from both?
Here's a question, what does Hedorah eating natural fumes add?
Legitimately, what is the point of adding that?

Here's why it shouldn't be added, it diminishes humanity's role in Hedorah's existence. Imagine if you will, a Climate Change skeptic. What is the primary rhetoric of Climate Change skeptics these days? They rarely deny that the climate is changing, they just think it's a purely natural phenomenon that humans play no part in.
This would be similar to that by seemingly absolving humanity of the blame and indicating that change will do nothing to prevent Hedorahs from existing, which is in complete opposition to the message of Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster in favor of making a story that has no meaning besides "Bro, wouldn't it be scary if a smoke monster came up and killed us all"?
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Fropston wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 7:22 am
LegendZilla wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:05 pm ^Why can't Hedorah get food from both?
This would be similar to that by seemingly absolving humanity of the blame and indicating that change will do nothing to prevent Hedorahs from existing, which is in complete opposition to the message of Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster in favor of making a story that has no meaning besides "Bro, wouldn't it be scary if a smoke monster came up and killed us all"?
To be honest, I agree that a Hedorah that doesn't feed on human pollution would miss the message of GvSM. But there's a part of me that thinks that if Godzilla can expand beyond the anti-nuclear message of its original film then why couldn't Hedorah do something similar?

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While Hedorah could feed off of toxic gases from natural sources, factories and other facilities seem to be a more direct form of food. Dogora only fed on coal and diamonds when there was plenty of other carbon containing food for it. However, diamonds and coal were a direct form of carbon. I suspect it would be the same for Hedorah and man made pollution.
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SpiderZilla wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:04 pm But there's a part of me that thinks that if Godzilla can expand beyond the anti-nuclear message of its original film then why couldn't Hedorah do something similar?
While it’s true that Godzilla has moved away from its nuclear origins in various entries, and not all Godzilla films need to focus on such issues, most of them still are relatively faithful to the original idea. Both Shin Godzilla and Godzilla Minus One are directly tied to nuclear waste and atomic bombs. Incarnations like Godzilla Earth and SP don’t exactly fit the nuclear mold, but there’s parallels with scientific discovery and the weaponization of powers beyond human comprehension.

Plus, there’s also the fact that there’s been so many incarnations of Godzilla, so some variety and straying from its origins is more understanding. Hedorah has really only been in one film, and while it’s gotten a lot of love recently, none of it has really taken the time to do something fun with it.

Then there’s the fact that Hedorah would just be Godzilla. Nuclear waste and the atom bomb created Godzilla. Hedorah was created by pollution.

Going back to the dumb volcano idea, someone mentioned “what would it add”? And that sentiment is so true. All it would do is detract.

FYI, there’s more interesting ways and things to do with Hedorah pre70s. Check this page out if you want to be depressed/learned:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minamata_disease

(Also this is probably another source of inspiration to Banno)
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The films rarely show how Godzilla effects the environment around him, so HWYFA a story where humans must deal with blood sucking parasites or sea life that have been mutated by Godzilla's blood or fluids?
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edgaguirus wrote: Wed Jun 18, 2025 12:33 pm The films rarely show how Godzilla effects the environment around him, so HWYFA a story where humans must deal with blood sucking parasites or sea life that have been mutated by Godzilla's blood or fluids?
I think a story (as in, text) or a graphic novel would be cool. I would even be open to an episode in a streaming/TV series or a scene in a Godzilla film. A full film would be too much, though.

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HWYFAI

In GXK Supernova, Spacegodzilla had an attack where he could launch a projectile that encases his enemies in crystal, essentially turning his enemies into immobile statues. Kind of like Tempest Shadow's obsidian grenades.

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Gojira1604 wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:02 am HWYFAI

In GXK Supernova, Spacegodzilla had an attack where he could launch a projectile that encases his enemies in crystal, essentially turning his enemies into immobile statues. Kind of like Tempest Shadow's obsidian grenades.
There is potential in that idea. If SG is the big bad, and he can immobilize enemies, it could create a plot point where humans and Titans have to work together to defend the world from a mutual threat. I could see some human tech being used to create high frequency sound to shatter these crystals.
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HWYFA

- A period film about a Japanese holdout meeting one of the kaiju?

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HWYFA seeing an older version of Suko in Supernova? Show the young ape growing up like the Heisei Godzilla offspring?
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HWYFI :

1. A future iteration of Godzilla had polymelia as part of his mutation?
2. Hedorah in the continuity of GMO was tied in with the Minamata disaster of 1956?
3. We entered an era in which Hollywood entered a winning streak of producing a line of quality Godzilla films, where Toho domestically just produced slop? Think a reversal of how things are now.
4. A kaiju battle aboard an alien mothership like in the pipeworks trilogy?

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LegendZilla wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:55 pm HWYFI :

1. A future iteration of Godzilla had polymelia as part of his mutation?
2. Hedorah in the continuity of GMO was tied in with the Minamata disaster of 1956?
3. We entered an era in which Hollywood entered a winning streak of producing a line of quality Godzilla films, where Toho domestically just produced slop? Think a reversal of how things are now.
4. A kaiju battle aboard an alien mothership like in the pipeworks trilogy?
1. I wouldn't mind if Godzilla had a second pair of smaller arms. It might help in combat.
2. Yes. Hedorah would be the perfect symbolism for contamination of the water.
3. Why does one studio have to produce slop? They can both make good films, and we'll be very happy.
4. I like the idea.
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LegendZilla wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:55 pm HWYFI :

1. A future iteration of Godzilla had polymelia as part of his mutation?
2. Hedorah in the continuity of GMO was tied in with the Minamata disaster of 1956?
3. We entered an era in which Hollywood entered a winning streak of producing a line of quality Godzilla films, where Toho domestically just produced slop? Think a reversal of how things are now.
4. A kaiju battle aboard an alien mothership like in the pipeworks trilogy?
1. Could be cool in a CQC fight.
2. Would like.
3. Why can't both be good or slop?
4. Would like redux.

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edgaguirus wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:24 pm HWYFA seeing an older version of Suko in Supernova? Show the young ape growing up like the Heisei Godzilla offspring?
I'd like that. That reminds me of what I wanted to see in the IDW universe if they'd continued it and after they got the rights to Minilla: use the 2004 version of the kaiju (which was accurate in regards to size when compared to Godzilla was concerned) and have him actually, physically grow up into an adult Godzilla, something Toho never allowed him to do, unlike what they did with BabyGodzilla/LittleGodzilla/Godzilla Junior/Godzilla (the last stage of his life literally at the last minute).

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edgaguirus wrote: Thu Jul 10, 2025 9:24 pm HWYFA seeing an older version of Suko in Supernova? Show the young ape growing up like the Heisei Godzilla offspring?
Would be a smart way to keep Kong's humanity / desire for family traits going. I'd prefer that to a Godzilla Junior, personally I dig Godzilla's perpetually angry MV characterization, especially with Kong balancing it out

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HWYFA a kaiju movie directed by James Gunn? He seems to have some interest in giant monsters, and the word "kaiju" pops up a lot in his recent films. Someone referred to Starro as a kaiju in The Suicide Squad, Groot's giant form in GotG3 was called "Full Kaiju", and while I haven't seen the new Superman movie yet, the toy line includes a
Spoiler:
"kaiju slime" monster.


Maybe he wants to do a Monsterverse/DC crossover movie. That would be a big step for Toho, but it does seem like a logical thing to try at some point. The money speaks for itself.
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JAGzilla wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:25 pm HWYFA a kaiju movie directed by James Gunn? He seems to have some interest in giant monsters, and the word "kaiju" pops up a lot in his recent films. Someone referred to Starro as a kaiju in The Suicide Squad, Groot's giant form in GotG3 was called "Full Kaiju", and while I haven't seen the new Superman movie yet, the toy line includes a
Spoiler:
"kaiju slime" monster.


Maybe he wants to do a Monsterverse/DC crossover movie. That would be a big step for Toho, but it does seem like a logical thing to try at some point. The money speaks for itself.
Eh, I don't think he'd be a great fit, honestly. Kaiju movies live or die on their sincerity, imo, and Gunn is one of the worst for undercutting sincere moments with "lightening" humor. Not my cup of tea, anyways.

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MC_Lovecraft wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:54 am
JAGzilla wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 8:25 pm HWYFA a kaiju movie directed by James Gunn? He seems to have some interest in giant monsters, and the word "kaiju" pops up a lot in his recent films. Someone referred to Starro as a kaiju in The Suicide Squad, Groot's giant form in GotG3 was called "Full Kaiju", and while I haven't seen the new Superman movie yet, the toy line includes a
Spoiler:
"kaiju slime" monster.


Maybe he wants to do a Monsterverse/DC crossover movie. That would be a big step for Toho, but it does seem like a logical thing to try at some point. The money speaks for itself.
Eh, I don't think he'd be a great fit, honestly. Kaiju movies live or die on their sincerity, imo, and Gunn is one of the worst for undercutting sincere moments with "lightening" humor. Not my cup of tea, anyways.
My brother in christ GOTG Vol 2 and 3 is one of the most sincere things in the MCU and Superman 25 speaks for itself.

eah, i'd love his take on the Monsterverse.

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