The "Godzilla x Kong: Supernova" News, Discussion & Speculation Thread

[MrRockett]

I'll be 50 in just 4 years. I got into Godzilla when I was 6.

At this point I couldnt give a rat's ass what the general public thinks of this character. I enjoy tokusatsu movies on my terms, as anyone else should. Worrying about what people you've never met think of Godzilla seems so pointless. Godzilla has hung on for 70 years. He'll be fine no matter what movies they make.

You and I have butted heads numerous times...however I absolutely agree with you on this. We all have our likes, dislikes and opinions on the franchise and they are ours like it or not. We have been in a Godzilla boon for over 10 years now, one that has brought it to heights of popularity never seen before and most likely is on the back side of it's zenith. I'm happy to experience it being a lifelong fan and look forward to the different incarnations and approaches the future holds for the franchise.

Some will be great, good, OK, bad...but Godzilla will march on. There is something for everybody.

As for the IP, I think debating it's ramifications is pointless right now, but I hope I live long enough to see Star Wars come to earth and have to deal with Godzilla....There I said it. Maybe the USS Enterprise returns to earth after communications are cut and they find Godzilla and friends have destroyed everything and they witness Godzilla playing basketball against a Mecha Barkley...

[Pkmatrix]

I’ve said it before, but worrying (or being happy) about Godzilla possibly going public domain will literally change nothing, especially in the internet era. The only possible thing it might do is allow small time creators to monetize their fan works but beyond that nothing will happen.

I agree that, for the most part, it's going to just mean small time creators monetizing their fan works. There's more that could happen, sure, but like Kong there is a prohibitively steep hill for producing movies for Godzilla and that will serve as a natural barrier the same as it has for Kong.

[Kagutaba]

The Asylum film's bound to be fun.

[GojiSquid]

Honestly I suspect that Toho will still be a prohibitive force on the market, if they were willing to go after Colossal I suspect they'll use any loophole to go after projects trying to use Godzilla in the public domain.

[Showa Gyaos]

I don't see the point of worrying about something that far away. And even when it does, Godzilla's still going to be Toho's property.

Mickey is still with Disney. It'll be quite a long wait for anything meaningful to arise from that.

[LSD Jellyfish]

I don't see the point of worrying about something that far away. And even when it does, Godzilla's still going to be Toho's property.

Mickey is still with Disney. It'll be quite a long wait for anything meaningful to arise from that.

Death of everything at some point is inevitable. I don’t worry about fictional things eventually dying. It’s stupid to worry about it. I’ve said it time and time again as well, that when Shin Godzilla came out I’d be OK with never having another Godzilla movie. Not saying I don’t like the wonderful things that proceeded it, but we have enough to enjoy and relish repeatedly.

I was sort of hoping to ignore this dumb hypothetical Legendzilla once brought up, but I really wouldn’t worry about Godzilla being public domain being an issue. We live in an era where it’s easy to find information, and you’re always a click away from seeing if something is official, or some weird offshoot. Worse case scenario is we get something amazing that isn’t by Toho, and great, now we have good things. I doubt that’ll happen for a variety of reasons, but basically, nothing will change.

[Pkmatrix]

I was sort of hoping to ignore this dumb hypothetical Legendzilla once brought up, but I really wouldn’t worry about Godzilla being public domain being an issue. We live in an era where it’s easy to find information, and you’re always a click away from seeing if something is official, or some weird offshoot. Worse case scenario is we get something amazing that isn’t by Toho, and great, now we have good things. I doubt that’ll happen for a variety of reasons, but basically, nothing will change.

I enjoy talking about copyright and the public domain, so personally I find speculating on what could happen or might happen with Godzilla once the copyright expires deeply interesting - I think a fair bit will change, but IMO not until after the copyright expires in the United States. Toho's influence in Japan will likely prevent much of anything interesting being done with Godzilla or any of the other characters that originated in Honda's pre-'71 films, and I've warned elsewhere that I expect Toho to use their influence to have copyright lengthened again. That's how the Kurosawa Rule came to be, after all. My personal expectation is that somewhere around 2032 there will be another lawsuit and Toho will once again twist the arm of the courts to get the "Ifukube Rule" invented (extending the definition of a movie's "author" from the Director, like Europe, the Writer and the Composer) in order to lengthen G54's copyright to January 1, 2045.

Now, back to Supernova!

So what exactly do we make of that clip of the crew trying to draw Baby Godzilla? Just people being silly on set, or an actual hint that Baby Godzilla is going to make his MV debut?

[zukzilla]

Legendary will not be appearing for Comic con this year.

[Kaijucifer]

Theyre trolling fans because theyve noticed how stupid some are and take everything seriously and run with it. Red Herrings galore. In the few sources I do have that I trust with their credibility enough not to say anything theyve told me, I can say its highly unlikely theyre gonna tease anything of the sort. No matter how much I want and beg for SpaceGodzilla and Junior, theyre not in the cards... For now.

[MoonlightSYXXX]

Theyre trolling fans because theyve noticed how stupid some are and take everything seriously and run with it. Red Herrings galore. In the few sources I do have that I trust with their credibility enough not to say anything theyve told me, I can say its highly unlikely theyre gonna tease anything of the sort. No matter how much I want and beg for SpaceGodzilla and Junior, theyre not in the cards... For now.

I thought we'd get SpaceG but I was seriously doubting Little G

[BurningCoolMan]

Theyre trolling fans because theyve noticed how stupid some are and take everything seriously and run with it. Red Herrings galore. In the few sources I do have that I trust with their credibility enough not to say anything theyve told me, I can say its highly unlikely theyre gonna tease anything of the sort. No matter how much I want and beg for SpaceGodzilla and Junior, theyre not in the cards... For now.

I don't believe you

[Showa Gyaos]

I was sort of hoping to ignore this dumb hypothetical Legendzilla once brought up, but I really wouldn’t worry about Godzilla being public domain being an issue. We live in an era where it’s easy to find information, and you’re always a click away from seeing if something is official, or some weird offshoot. Worse case scenario is we get something amazing that isn’t by Toho, and great, now we have good things. I doubt that’ll happen for a variety of reasons, but basically, nothing will change.

I enjoy talking about copyright and the public domain, so personally I find speculating on what could happen or might happen with Godzilla once the copyright expires deeply interesting - I think a fair bit will change, but IMO not until after the copyright expires in the United States. Toho's influence in Japan will likely prevent much of anything interesting being done with Godzilla or any of the other characters that originated in Honda's pre-'71 films, and I've warned elsewhere that I expect Toho to use their influence to have copyright lengthened again. That's how the Kurosawa Rule came to be, after all. My personal expectation is that somewhere around 2032 there will be another lawsuit and Toho will once again twist the arm of the courts to get the "Ifukube Rule" invented (extending the definition of a movie's "author" from the Director, like Europe, the Writer and the Composer) in order to lengthen G54's copyright to January 1, 2045.

Now, back to Supernova!

So what exactly do we make of that clip of the crew trying to draw Baby Godzilla? Just people being silly on set, or an actual hint that Baby Godzilla is going to make his MV debut?

I found the video in question. There's no mention at all of it being a "baby Godzilla" they're trying to draw. The video title specifies how to draw a cartoon Godzilla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shW4hLPhHGc

I will say this, though: They do have a Little Godzilla figure showing in the video, just off screen. But the drawing itself isn't supposed to be a "Baby Godzilla," it's just forced conjecture from Mr. Goji. If I had to guess, the video means nothing.

[Pkmatrix]

I was sort of hoping to ignore this dumb hypothetical Legendzilla once brought up, but I really wouldn’t worry about Godzilla being public domain being an issue. We live in an era where it’s easy to find information, and you’re always a click away from seeing if something is official, or some weird offshoot. Worse case scenario is we get something amazing that isn’t by Toho, and great, now we have good things. I doubt that’ll happen for a variety of reasons, but basically, nothing will change.

I enjoy talking about copyright and the public domain, so personally I find speculating on what could happen or might happen with Godzilla once the copyright expires deeply interesting - I think a fair bit will change, but IMO not until after the copyright expires in the United States. Toho's influence in Japan will likely prevent much of anything interesting being done with Godzilla or any of the other characters that originated in Honda's pre-'71 films, and I've warned elsewhere that I expect Toho to use their influence to have copyright lengthened again. That's how the Kurosawa Rule came to be, after all. My personal expectation is that somewhere around 2032 there will be another lawsuit and Toho will once again twist the arm of the courts to get the "Ifukube Rule" invented (extending the definition of a movie's "author" from the Director, like Europe, the Writer and the Composer) in order to lengthen G54's copyright to January 1, 2045.

Now, back to Supernova!

So what exactly do we make of that clip of the crew trying to draw Baby Godzilla? Just people being silly on set, or an actual hint that Baby Godzilla is going to make his MV debut?

I found the video in question. There's no mention at all of it being a "baby Godzilla" they're trying to draw. The video title specifies how to draw a cartoon Godzilla.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shW4hLPhHGc

I will say this, though: They do have a Little Godzilla figure showing in the video, just off screen. But the drawing itself isn't supposed to be a "Baby Godzilla," it's just forced conjecture from Mr. Goji. If I had to guess, the video means nothing.

Ahhh! That makes sense.

[Kaijucifer]

Theyre trolling fans because theyve noticed how stupid some are and take everything seriously and run with it. Red Herrings galore. In the few sources I do have that I trust with their credibility enough not to say anything theyve told me, I can say its highly unlikely theyre gonna tease anything of the sort. No matter how much I want and beg for SpaceGodzilla and Junior, theyre not in the cards... For now.

I don't believe you

Okay? What exactly do you want me to do with this information?

[MoonlightSYXXX]

I still think we are getting Space Godzilla and Junior. They are being teased way too much and a lot of merch is being release with them as well. I think people saying that is a red herring is a red herring. Just my opinion.

[Djura]

For what it’s worth, I believe you mate. Kaijucifer you’ve always shared legit, reliable information while respecting your sources. Appreciate you.

Just speculating, but what if the title supernova is taken at face value? Could the next film main “villain” actually be a world ending event in space? I know theres been discussion about battle on the moon, and perhaps is not a battle with a kaiju but rather a space phenomena?

[dillonking55]

Moving on. In production news: The GxK: Supernova crew has wrapped filming in Australia & is officially moving on to Utah

(Info via: Anne Foley, the costume designer for Supernova)

https://x.com/Mr_goji54/status/19427646 ... fUyrQ&s=19

Also, not sure if we have any members from Utah, but they are currently casting for "Townspeople" for GxK:Supernova/ZEUS

https://x.com/DillonJohnson55/status/19 ... bRHtw&s=19

[LegendZilla]

If Shoshreh Agdashloo doen't make it into the Monsterverse, another actor who's been creeping their way into everything surely will : Pedro Pascal.

[Djura]

If Shoshreh Agdashloo doen't make it into the Monsterverse, another actor who's been creeping their way into everything surely will : Pedro Pascal.

Would LOVE to see Agdashloo in MV. Incredible performance in The Expanse, my favorite character. She always delivers the goods in her shows.

[Leviarex]

Some more on-set footage is featured in one of D Man 1954's most recent videos (at 12:37-14:22), which also covers more posts from Matthew Modine that's further fueling the likelihood of Spacegodzilla being the new heavy (which I'm admittedly hopeful for) along with the possibility of Rodan and Mothra also appearing (at 15:35-20:23):