Meant by whom? Gareth Edwards and Jordan Vogt-Roberts didn't approach their films that way. I don't think Dougherty did, either.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:04 pmYou do know the Monsterverse films are meant to be just popcorns films where you're meant to shut your brain off right? So what if they're not peak cinema?Vakanai wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:48 pmWhy would I watch the reviews of it? I already know it's more of what I hated from GvK,LegendZilla wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:33 am
Would you at least watch other people’s reviews of it? Or what about if Rifftrax did it?
As for Rifftrax, I don't really enjoy those. Don't enjoy MST3K either. Can't tell you why, just really not my thing.
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Sony's Spider-Man Universe films is probably the only franchise that haven't watched out of protest because the idea of doing these movie without a Spider-man to anchor them was moronic from a storytelling performance not to mention the false marketing. The first Venom is the only I've seen and that only because two of my girlfriends begged me to take them to see it. I will not watch Jeepers Creepers either nor Cuties.
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BlasphemyDynomikeGojira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:45 am Sony's Spider-Man Universe films is probably the only franchise that haven't watched out of protest because the idea of doing these movie without a Spider-man to anchor them was moronic from a storytelling performance not to mention the false marketing.
You're denying yourself the moment of Doctor Who dancing to the "Have Sex Poop My Pants" Song. Truly a scene from one of the movies to come out in 2022
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I get what you mean about the torture porn stuff – I tried watching The Human Centipede out of curiosity, and while the first one wasn’t as bad as I expected, I couldn’t even imagine sitting through the sequels. Just not my thing. I also don’t bother with the Seltzer/Friedberg movies; their parodies are usually just annoying, and I’d rather watch something more original. Same goes for modern Adam Sandler comedies – I used to enjoy his older stuff, but now it feels like the same tired formula. There are better movies out there that don’t rely on cheap shock or repetitive jokes.
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So trueSpirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:55 amBlasphemyDynomikeGojira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:45 am Sony's Spider-Man Universe films is probably the only franchise that haven't watched out of protest because the idea of doing these movie without a Spider-man to anchor them was moronic from a storytelling performance not to mention the false marketing.
You're denying yourself the moment of Doctor Who dancing to the "Have Sex Poop My Pants" Song. Truly a scene from one of the movies to come out in 2022
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I do know that. But I don't feel like they rise up to even that standard. I watch a lot of dumb popcorn flicks, I enjoy the MCU. But this isn't like a MCU film or even Bay's Transformers. To me, this was just idiot garbage. You're free and fine to disagree with my take, but the important thing is that I personally found it to be the dumbest most unenjoyable thing I have ever seen and I don't want to subject myself to that again. I thought 2019's King of the Monsters was a decent turn off your brain popcorn movie. But GvK was not.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:04 pmYou do know the Monsterverse films are meant to be just popcorn films where you're meant to shut your brain off right? So what if they're not peak cinema?Vakanai wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:48 pmWhy would I watch the reviews of it? I already know it's more of what I hated from GvK,LegendZilla wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:33 am
Would you at least watch other people’s reviews of it? Or what about if Rifftrax did it?
As for Rifftrax, I don't really enjoy those. Don't enjoy MST3K either. Can't tell you why, just really not my thing.
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This also. Only the Wingard films are meant to be dumb turn off your brain popcorn films. Possibly Dougherty's film - it wound up that way, but not sure if intended that way. But 2014 Godzilla and Kong Skull Island were of a higher standard.Jomei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:44 amMeant by whom? Gareth Edwards and Jordan Vogt-Roberts didn't approach their films that way. I don't think Dougherty did, either.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 7:04 pmYou do know the Monsterverse films are meant to be just popcorns films where you're meant to shut your brain off right? So what if they're not peak cinema?
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They do have a Spider-Man anchoring these films - Miles. The other Spider-People are supporting cast, Miles is our anchor character.DynomikeGojira wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:45 am Sony's Spider-Man Universe films is probably the only franchise that haven't watched out of protest because the idea of doing these movie without a Spider-man to anchor them was moronic from a storytelling performance not to mention the false marketing. The first Venom is the only I've seen and that only because two of my girlfriends begged me to take them to see it. I will not watch Jeepers Creepers either nor Cuties.
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^If this was still the Showa era, would've you given up on anything Godzilla-related from Toho after let's say Godzilla's Revenge? That would mean you'd miss out on the decent MechaGodzilla duology.
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I'm actually one of the few here who thinks Godzilla's Revenge isn't a bad film. A bit boring in parts sure, but a bit charming in others.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:32 pm ^If this was still the Showa era, would've you given up on anything Godzilla-related from Toho after let's say Godzilla's Revenge? That would mean you'd miss out on the decent MechaGodzilla duology.
But I get what you're trying to say, and I disagree with it. Toho, in my personal opinion, never made a film that felt like the director genuinely believed "kaiju movies must be stupid." You can argue that's not what Wingard thought making his movies, but I'm going to disagree with you there. There's a difference between stupid movies, and movies intentionally made with the goal of being stupid. Toho, for all the faults and "bad" movies, have never given me the impression that being truly dumb was the end goal of a film. Legendary has, found success with it, and continued in that fashion.
Really, many people here have mentioned movies they refuse to watch for whatever reasons. But my refusal to watch anything more from the post GvK MV is what you feel you need to argue with. Why? It's my choice what I watch, and the MV lost my trust after giving me the worst movie watching experience of my entire life. It doesn't matter if that reason doesn't satisfy you, it satisfies me as reason enough.
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Ah, I see. So you're saying that the agenda of the director is the main deal-breaker for you?Vakanai wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:05 pmI'm actually one of the few here who thinks Godzilla's Revenge isn't a bad film. A bit boring in parts sure, but a bit charming in others.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:32 pm ^If this was still the Showa era, would've you given up on anything Godzilla-related from Toho after let's say Godzilla's Revenge? That would mean you'd miss out on the decent MechaGodzilla duology.
But I get what you're trying to say, and I disagree with it. Toho, in my personal opinion, never made a film that felt like the director genuinely believed "kaiju movies must be stupid." You can argue that's not what Wingard thought making his movies, but I'm going to disagree with you there. There's a difference between stupid movies, and movies intentionally made with the goal of being stupid. Toho, for all the faults and "bad" movies, have never given me the impression that being truly dumb was the end goal of a film. Legendary has, found success with it, and continued in that fashion.
Really, many people here have mentioned movies they refuse to watch for whatever reasons. But my refusal to watch anything more from the post GvK MV is what you feel you need to argue with. Why? It's my choice what I watch, and the MV lost my trust after giving me the worst movie watching experience of my entire life. It doesn't matter if that reason doesn't satisfy you, it satisfies me as reason enough.
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One of. I don't like being insulted, I don't like the genres I love being insulted, and while we can debate it, it personally felt to me like a film that dumbed things down to an insulting level. This wasn't just the dumbest movie I've ever seen, it seemed made with the mindset that such films have to be stupid. On top of that it shat on the established characterizations, tone, and everything else I loved about the earlier films. It was like the director didn't watch those films at all, or didn't like them and wanted to completely trash them for his own take.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 10:45 pmAh, I see. So you're saying that the agenda of the director is the main deal-breaker for you?Vakanai wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 7:05 pmI'm actually one of the few here who thinks Godzilla's Revenge isn't a bad film. A bit boring in parts sure, but a bit charming in others.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Thu Jan 23, 2025 3:32 pm ^If this was still the Showa era, would've you given up on anything Godzilla-related from Toho after let's say Godzilla's Revenge? That would mean you'd miss out on the decent MechaGodzilla duology.
But I get what you're trying to say, and I disagree with it. Toho, in my personal opinion, never made a film that felt like the director genuinely believed "kaiju movies must be stupid." You can argue that's not what Wingard thought making his movies, but I'm going to disagree with you there. There's a difference between stupid movies, and movies intentionally made with the goal of being stupid. Toho, for all the faults and "bad" movies, have never given me the impression that being truly dumb was the end goal of a film. Legendary has, found success with it, and continued in that fashion.
Really, many people here have mentioned movies they refuse to watch for whatever reasons. But my refusal to watch anything more from the post GvK MV is what you feel you need to argue with. Why? It's my choice what I watch, and the MV lost my trust after giving me the worst movie watching experience of my entire life. It doesn't matter if that reason doesn't satisfy you, it satisfies me as reason enough.
I could go on, but frankly? This isn't the section to debate or defend my views. This thread is about the films we refuse to see for personal reasons. I refuse to watch anything spinning off of GvK and I gave my personal reasons why.
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^I feel the same way about the Hanna Barbera Godzilla. I refuse to watch that cartoon.
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HB godzilla ironically has a lot of heart (even if it remains well within the confines of an HB cartoon)
And p.s., monsterverse goji is more or less the same character as HB goji
And p.s., monsterverse goji is more or less the same character as HB goji
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This is an interesting perspective to me. This thread is about specific films which people refuse to see but you’ve taken it to the next level by refusing to see films yet to be made.
Out of curiosity, what would it take for you (or anyone else who feels the same way) to see a future film in a series that you’ve written off? A respected director? An appealing trailer? Good reviews? And would you feel compelled to see the films you skipped in the series if they were relevant to the plot of the new film, or would that instead be a greater disincentive to see the new film?
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The MonsterVerse G/K films illustrate that the line between smart-dumb and dumb-dumb can be tough to walk, and viewers of all kinds (smart and dumb) may at times be unsure which they are (and which they are watching). Is the movie dumb? Or are you dumb for perceiving it as such? If you stare too long into the dumb, does it stare back? Or if you look beyond that which at first appears to be the dumb-dumb, is the smart-dumb lurking for those with eyes to see it?
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That's fair, the HB cartoon certainly has it's own thing going combining the Scooby-Doo type silliness (Godzooky...) onto the Showa era camp. I like it a lot fwiw, but can definitely see why it's not for everyone.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:01 pm ^I feel the same way about the Hanna Barbera Godzilla. I refuse to watch that cartoon.
Not really. Like I get where you're coming from, but there's still a substantial difference between his relationship to humanity in the HB cartoon and at least the first 3 Godzilla films of the MV (since I refuse to see GxK I can't comment on it). In HB he's a friend and ally of humanity to the point they have a means to contact him and rely on him for protection. In the MV it's more about either protecting his territory, removing threats to himself, and establishing dominance, while humanity just in general sort of benefits from it sometimes.Jetty_Jags wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:00 am HB godzilla ironically has a lot of heart (even if it remains well within the confines of an HB cartoon)
And p.s., monsterverse goji is more or less the same character as HB goji
At this point it would likely need a full retcon or reboot completely distancing the series and characters from everything Wingard did - and considering that those were the most successful films for them to date, that's not happening. And watching something like Godzilla x Kong, another film by Wingard delivering from reviews everything I hated about Godzilla vs Kong all over again, just to "catch up" is definitely a strong disincentive not to.SpiderZilla wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:17 amThis is an interesting perspective to me. This thread is about specific films which people refuse to see but you’ve taken it to the next level by refusing to see films yet to be made.
Out of curiosity, what would it take for you (or anyone else who feels the same way) to see a future film in a series that you’ve written off? A respected director? An appealing trailer? Good reviews? And would you feel compelled to see the films you skipped in the series if they were relevant to the plot of the new film, or would that instead be a greater disincentive to see the new film?
I'm sorry, but Wingard and GvK really just ruined the MV completely for me, doing a complete 180 away from the prior films I enjoyed and left me cold.
Okay, this is like the fourth, fifth time I've had to defend my decision not to watch GxK and future films spinning out of GvK. I'm not watching GxK, I'm not watching whatever sequel they're cooking up now. For Godzilla films I'm done with Legendary after they made a film I hated so much and seemingly doubled down for GxK. I'll just go with Toho, I loved both Shin and Minus One. For King Kong, I guess I'm screwed until the big guy's first film finally falls into public domain and other people try making something.
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Sure it's not 1:1, but in both iterations the main human dynamic is that humanity is absolutely dependent upon their skyscraper sized guard dog to protect them from the monsters of the world. Obviously the MV puts more emphasis on those who don't buy into this relationship, and it's slightly less anthropomorphized, it's far closer to HB than even the 70's hero godzilla as I see it, especially as our science team goes on globetrotting adventures chasing the big boy around.
(also I'm mainly talking about the first three movies anyways, GxK honestly is the most divergent from this trope)
(also I'm mainly talking about the first three movies anyways, GxK honestly is the most divergent from this trope)
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I obviously disagree, and if that theory had any merit it would be the first two movies - GvK imo diverges heavily from that trope.Jetty_Jags wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2025 5:08 pm Sure it's not 1:1, but in both iterations the main human dynamic is that humanity is absolutely dependent upon their skyscraper sized guard dog to protect them from the monsters of the world. Obviously the MV puts more emphasis on those who don't buy into this relationship, and it's slightly less anthropomorphized, it's far closer to HB than even the 70's hero godzilla as I see it, especially as our science team goes on globetrotting adventures chasing the big boy around.
(also I'm mainly talking about the first three movies anyways, GxK honestly is the most divergent from this trope)
But we've gone way off topic at this point.
Back on point, the other movies besides future MV entries I refuse to see:
1. The Libertine
2. Death Wish (2018 remake)
The reason I refuse to watch these two movies have nothing to do with the films themselves, but is due to what happened on the days when I had intended to see these films. Real life turned those days into something pretty horrid, and while I don't have any superstition that these films are bad luck, after what happened I couldn't watch them without going back to those days in my mind.
3. The Omen (2006 remake)
4. The Godfather
The reason I refuse to watch these is because they bored me when I tried watching them. The 2006 The Omen I watched like the first half hour of with my sister, and we both agreed it was boring and we'd rather watch something else. And the one time I tried to watch The Godfather it bored me right into sleep.
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^If Minus One got a direct sequel, will you add it to the list of movies you refuse to watch? Is continuity between films really an objectively bad idea? Or does it just not align with your biases?
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Oh my god, I'm not watching GxK or any future MV film, I've stated my reasons, it's my personal decision, why does it matter so much to you what I choose to avoid watching? Also I loved Minus One, not that it matters.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:10 pm ^If Minus One got a direct sequel, will you add it to the list of movies you refuse to watch? Is continuity between films really an objectively bad idea? Or does it just not align with your biases?
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I'm not juding your choice to avoid the MV like the plague. What I'm trying to get at is why do you think the risk of a Minus One sequel failing is more likely than not?Vakanai wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:01 pmOh my god, I'm not watching GxK or any future MV film, I've stated my reasons, it's my personal decision, why does it matter so much to you what I choose to avoid watching? Also I loved Minus One, not that it matters.LegendZilla wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:10 pm ^If Minus One got a direct sequel, will you add it to the list of movies you refuse to watch? Is continuity between films really an objectively bad idea? Or does it just not align with your biases?