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Dilemma - The title of my next match is just a little too long on characters, and I can't fully write it. Would it be okay if in the title I shortened Ultraman Taro and Ultraman Mebius to just Taro & Mebius?
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Voyager wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2024 4:05 am Dilemma - The title of my next match is just a little too long on characters, and I can't fully write it. Would it be okay if in the title I shortened Ultraman Taro and Ultraman Mebius to just Taro & Mebius?
That would be fine.
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I am currently attempting to write a match that takes place during the events of, and eventually diverges from Murder Drones, an amazing miniseries that I doubt the large majority of people on these forums have watched. I now find myself at this bizarre crossroads, where the first chapter of this match is a prologue dedicated entirely to recapping the series up to the point of divergence. However, actually writing this recap has become an exercise of exhaustion. There is just too much material to cover, and I don’t want to just go up to people and say “hey go watch the series if you wanna understand what’s happening”, because that would just feel lazy. Please help.
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VegetableBooy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:05 pm I am currently attempting to write a match that takes place during the events of, and eventually diverges from Murder Drones, an amazing miniseries that I doubt the large majority of people on these forums have watched. I now find myself at this bizarre crossroads, where the first chapter of this match is a prologue dedicated entirely to recapping the series up to the point of divergence. However, actually writing this recap has become an exercise of exhaustion. There is just too much material to cover, and I don’t want to just go up to people and say “hey go watch the series if you wanna understand what’s happening”, because that would just feel lazy. Please help.
Maybe try and just summarize it to a more manageable recap, cut out bits that aren't really all that Important and keep in the major moments

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VegetableBooy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:05 pm I am currently attempting to write a match that takes place during the events of, and eventually diverges from Murder Drones, an amazing miniseries that I doubt the large majority of people on these forums have watched. I now find myself at this bizarre crossroads, where the first chapter of this match is a prologue dedicated entirely to recapping the series up to the point of divergence. However, actually writing this recap has become an exercise of exhaustion. There is just too much material to cover, and I don’t want to just go up to people and say “hey go watch the series if you wanna understand what’s happening”, because that would just feel lazy. Please help.
Maybe you can surmise some things and keep the information of the plot points relevant to the match itself intact. I don’t know how helpful that is, but that’s the best advice I can give.

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HillyHulk wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:11 pm Maybe try and just summarize it to a more manageable recap, cut out bits that aren't really all that Important and keep in the major moments
kaijufanforever wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 3:10 pm Maybe you can surmise some things and keep the information of the plot points relevant to the match itself intact. I don’t know how helpful that is, but that’s the best advice I can give.
The problem lies in a few things.

1. I want this match to be the start of a series where pretty much every element from Murder Drones comes into play, including a slightly altered version of it’s storyline up to the point of divergence, and every major character with their respective arcs intact.

2. The “keep plot points relevant to the match” thing doesn’t really work, since the actual fight does interfere with the events, but in more of an out of nowhere way. They are key players in the diverging story, but they don’t really tie into much of the series’ major plot points.

3. I really want to get people onboard with these characters. I adore them and the themes that I have been able to experience the story through the lens of, and I don’t want people to feel like they can’t attach to them without watching a 2 hour 40 minute long series.
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VegetableBooy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 4:03 pm The problem lies in a few things.

1. I want this match to be the start of a series where pretty much every element from Murder Drones comes into play, including a slightly altered version of it’s storyline up to the point of divergence, and every major character with their respective arcs intact.

2. The “keep plot points relevant to the match” thing doesn’t really work, since the actual fight does interfere with the events, but in more of an out of nowhere way. They are key players in the diverging story, but they don’t really tie into much of the series’ major plot points.

3. I really want to get people onboard with these characters. I adore them and the themes that I have been able to experience the story through the lens of, and I don’t want people to feel like they can’t attach to them without watching a 2 hour 40 minute long series.
Well ultimately, you can’t create a substitute for the series itself in people’s heads, so you need to figure out where to compromise with the ideas you have to make it both understandable to someone who hasn’t seen it while also not dragging into oblivion.

I would say aspects that aren’t immediately relevant to the match’s plot but will be important later and/or are more so character related should be threaded throughout the match’s runtime, via flashbacks/revelations through dialogue/narration, instead of all just placed in a big block at the very beginning. You want it all to flow together naturally as opposed to “here is the plot of the web miniseries Murder Drones, do you understand it now, ok, kaiju time.”

Look at pre-existing KWC(E)s featuring franchises and characters not universally known by this community (hell, probably seek out ones with stuff you personally don’t know so you can fully be on the other side of this equation and get a better picture of what and what not to do) and see how they do it.
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Can Oozaru Vegeta and Nappa be assisted by Saibamen?
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VegetableBooy wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2024 5:21 am Can Oozaru Vegeta and Nappa be assisted by Saibamen?
I don't see why not, although they'd probably only be able to plant them before they transform.

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So, probably a bit of a stupid question, but while I was working on my Spidember match I noticed that I was calling Kumonga a her. I don't think Kumonga's gender has been stated anywhere, but does it matter what pronouns I use?

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CommanderPhoenix wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 12:30 am So, probably a bit of a stupid question, but while I was working on my Spidember match I noticed that I was calling Kumonga a her. I don't think Kumonga's gender has been stated anywhere, but does it matter what pronouns I use?
In the case of Kumonga, I don't see the harm with giving Kumonga she/her pronouns. I'd just say go for it. ;)
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While I see what Spidember match I can make, I also have plans for a bigger match:

There are three variations of this:

The Anteverse (Basically all of the Pacific Rim kaiju, including Obsidian Fury/Apex/other Kaiju-Jaeger hybrids) vs Destoroyah

The Anteverse and Subnautica vs Destoroyah

Everyone vs Destoroyah (Not just every single card in the KWCE, just more aquatic monsters)

The basic premise for all of these is that the Devonians are on their last legs, their last bastion is their capital city and they deploy Destoroyah to defend it for them. Of course, Destoroyah only really chooses to fight for the bloodshed. Now, the idea does vary with each match.

For the first one, the Precursors have engaged in a war with the Devonians in the Pacific since humanity's fall, both trying to stake claim over this vast ocean. However, the Devonians were whittled down through a war of Attrition, their own controlled kaiju were either killed or were broken free of their mind control and fled back into the wild. As the main bulk of the Precursors' kaiju amy closed in on the Devonians capital, the capital's gates would open before releasing their key superweapon, the last push against the inevitable. The precursors would survey their full side of the chessboard and looked on at the lone red knight, would these even suffice for a victory?

For the second, it is also the same as the first but instead, the Precursors call in an old ally from across the cosmos to end this exhausting war in the Pacific once and for all. As the Devonians watched new alien spacecraft teleport in the sky, the Architects announced their arrival, helping their old ally by releasing bioweapons of their own. Of course they could just release a particularly disease that ravaged their species in the past but that was a last resort if the Devonians still somehow survived this. Their pawns were made from DNA taken from leviathans on a notable ocean planet, 4546B, but genetically modified to be larger and more battle-suited. Of couse, the Devonians release their singular red knight, it's just that Destoroyah has more on his plate to deal with.

Finally, the third match is also a last stand kind of fight but instead it is with the Cryogs. They wanted to settle a score with their ally-turned-enemy and the opportunity raised its ugly head right as humanity was being ravaged from a chaotic, unorganised invasion from different alien species. Of course, the Devonians were not doing so well, much of their own pawns had escaped from their control or escaped then were taken control of by other invading alien forces. The Cryogs sent out their own forces and the Devonians retaliated with sending out Destoroyah for a last stand but the fight also coincidentally caught the attention of other alien forces and alien kaiju, all of them wanting to join in either for a good fight or to kill two birds with one stone. Humanity also managed to send out their own creations. And, not to mention, other kaiju are attracted to this brawl. But before the actual royale could commence, some alien forces decided on a temporary truce with the Cryogs to deal with the elephant in the room. Surely things wouldn't get quickly out of hand, right?

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Kiryu2012 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:59 am Are we allowed to use other sharptooth characters from LBT as 'skins' for Sharptooth? (Red Claw, Chomper's parents, Plated Sharptooth, etc.)
Yes, that would be fine.
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 12:36 pm
Kiryu2012 wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 10:59 am Are we allowed to use other sharptooth characters from LBT as 'skins' for Sharptooth? (Red Claw, Chomper's parents, Plated Sharptooth, etc.)
Yes, that would be fine.
On the topic of Sharptooth, can we have a character able to transform into dinosaurs turn into one, such as Beast Boy or someone affected by the Primordial Ooze from Dino Squad?
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VegetableBooy wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:32 pm On the topic of Sharptooth, can we have a character able to transform into dinosaurs turn into one, such as Beast Boy or someone affected by the Primordial Ooze from Dino Squad?
The Dino Squad one would be fine, but no to the Beast Boy one. A distinct individual that can transform like that wouldn’t be allowed.
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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 6:56 pm
VegetableBooy wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 1:32 pm On the topic of Sharptooth, can we have a character able to transform into dinosaurs turn into one, such as Beast Boy or someone affected by the Primordial Ooze from Dino Squad?
The Dino Squad one would be fine, but no to the Beast Boy one. A distinct individual that can transform like that wouldn’t be allowed.
I’m shocked anyone here even remembers Dino Squad!

Since Optimus Prime can attach parts of other Cybertronians to himself as upgrades, does this include stuff like Megatron’s arm from the Skybound comics and Optimus Maximus?
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VegetableBooy wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 1:41 pm Since Optimus Prime can attach parts of other Cybertronians to himself as upgrades, does this include stuff like Megatron’s arm from the Skybound comics and Optimus Maximus?
Should be fine.
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Yup, my dad works at Legendary, the Nebulans are gonna be in the next movie and they're gonna get beat because Madison throws coffee in the leaders face.

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