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Legion1979 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:10 pm Yeah I wish people would stop with the comparisons. One are cheap, mass produced toys mainly meant for kids. The other are more expensive figures sold directly to collectors in very limited quantities.
The comparisons are this way because historically YMSF was always the guy that “made the vinyl figures” that Bandai wouldn’t. For years, he was the only way to get decent Ebirah, Gabara, and even Kong/Zilla figures.

It doesn’t help that he also typically posts comparisons of his stuff to the Bandai MMS, and also tends to do re-releases around the time of a major MMS release.

Still, I agree with your point that the comparison is a bit unwarranted. However, it’s the closest thing we can compare MMS to, unlike SHMA and Hiya.
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LSD Jellyfish wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:42 pm
Legion1979 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 6:10 pm Yeah I wish people would stop with the comparisons. One are cheap, mass produced toys mainly meant for kids. The other are more expensive figures sold directly to collectors in very limited quantities.
The comparisons are this way because historically YMSF was always the guy that “made the vinyl figures” that Bandai wouldn’t. For years, he was the only way to get decent Ebirah, Gabara, and even Kong/Zilla figures.

It doesn’t help that he also typically posts comparisons of his stuff to the Bandai MMS, and also tends to do re-releases around the time of a major MMS release.

Still, I agree with your point that the comparison is a bit unwarranted. However, it’s the closest thing we can compare MMS to, unlike SHMA and Hiya.
Yeah, I often feel like we looked at it the wrong way. It made sense when he made Gabara, Kumonga, etc. but it wasn't that long before he was doing alternate versions of chsracters that existed in Bandai form (like Godzilla '67 for example) and a lot of those were great figures but it definitely showed a break in style from Bandai. I also unwisely bought a YMSF figure as a child collector and damaged it almost immediately (well, it fell off a shelf) so I associated early on not to mix them with hardy Bandai vinyls.

The guy's work is fantastic. The YMSF Zilla is one of my favorite Godzilla figures I own. but definitely not a level of detail I'd ever expect from Bandai much less the paint.
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Oh, come on. You speak as if Y-MSF is comparable to X-Plus. I love them, but Y-MSF doesn't always aim for the stratosphere. Some seem quite reasonable to think of as something Bandai could accomplish in the MMS line.

Still, this particular comparison just drives it home that they still could have done more here.
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Gojirasaur wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:07 pm Oh, come on. You speak as if Y-MSF is comparable to X-Plus. I love them, but Y-MSF doesn't always aim for the stratosphere. Some seem quite reasonable to think of as something Bandai could accomplish in the MMS line.
Thing is, at the end of the day you're still trying to compare a limited number made $60+ vinyl aimed at adult collectors to a $25 dollar, mass-produced vinyl aimed for little kids. Not arguing they can't do better but Bandai and YMSF are not mutually exclusive.
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Legion1979 wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 5:23 pm These toys are made of pliable soft vinyl. They're not going to break the way the old hard ones did. And even on the older 8" figure, those fins were never pointy enough to injure someone.

Ever since switching the separately model sections for the back fins in 1999, Bandai has tried very hard to make them accurate. This is the first time they've simplified the fins to such an extent.
I actually went back to watching the review again and paid closer attention to the spines. I do see what you mean regarding them being rounded. Still, it doesn’t detract it enough for me not to like it.

The upper jaw has a bit of a snarl to it but I’d have to watch the movie again to ascertain if that is film accurate to that bit of action when G roars.

The complaints by some on this figure reminds me of some of the same when G ‘91 was released last year. There was a critique of the jaw being too short which affected screen accuracy and other issues.

Yet, by all accounts the figure and its variants sold well enough to initiate a recent rerelease.

I really love this long awaited G 2002 despite its flaws. It’s already on order and can’t wait until its arrival.

To your point about the softer vinyl that’s true. “Knock on wood” I never experienced breakage compared to the earlier harder 8” vinyl releases. My Heisei Mega G fell off the shelf and the “horn” part broke off. I was able to repair it with super glue and it’s barely noticeable.

The legs on my harder vinyl Kamakuras have also broken due to storage issues. I have so many figures and so little room that I have to switch them out between display and storage.

If I can digress for a moment to the current discussion of Bandai/Y MSF comparisons, I do wish the YMSF figures used the same soft vinyl formula as Bandai more consistently.

I really love their releases but on some of their figures the vinyl is too hard. One exception is their Kamakuras which is softer making it more durable than Bandai’s earlier version.

The Zilla on the other hand is a much harder vinyl which makes me appreciate that aspect on the Bandai version even more. So on the one hand you have better detail on the YMSF but more durability with the Bandai.

But back to Bandai G ‘02. I predict this figure will sell well. I just hope we have an equally or even better figure for GMK Godzilla.

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Got my hands on the classic 1992 Bandai Godzilla, I believe the Toho Kaiju Series release? Doesn't look like the 2001 Movie Monster Series or the Godzilla Island release.

For a dated mold, it still looks pretty good. Now if Bandai could just do a 1993/1994 they'd have basically all the Heisei designs covered.

Also picked up a MMS Godzilla 1968 for 5$, with half of the tail slifed off. Working on a custom 67 with it, works surprisingly well. I do own the original, and it already was damaged, so I don't feel too guilty about it.

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I kind of wish they'd reissue Burning Godzilla with standard paint to make a new '94. Plus, I feel like every non-translucent version of that Burming figure has looked a bit bad, may as well just make him standard Goji if they won't commit to the burning effect

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Yes, the original 6" MMS Burning Godzilla from 2001 is a beautiful figure. The translucence effect is very eye-catching. It's still one of my favorite BANDAI vinyls, despite being a kind of dated mold by now.
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So for Arc there are two exclusive Sofubis available only via the Ultraman Online Shop.

One is Ultraman Arc Saturn Armor
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After almost 30 years of that original Burning Godzilla sculpt I'm more than ready to see it retired. If Bandai ever does decide to do a 1993 or 1994 Godzilla I really hope they do a new sculpt.

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I think that figures sculpt still looks really nice! Though, they could definitely do better by now. I'm more shocked by ones like SpaceGodzilla. SpaceG has always looked a bit bad to me, let alone a billion years later. G'54 is a favorite but I think they could do a much better sculpt these days

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I'm still okay with the 54 sculpt. They did a pretty great job with it in 1999 and I don't mind it's longevity.

But Space Godzilla? Damn, that same 30 year old sculpt getting reissued AGAIN this year was a disappointment.

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Absolutely. Especially since they even did entirely new sculpts for recent figures, which already had great looking, newer molds ready to be used, e. g. Jet Jaguar.

Spacegodzilla absolutely deserved a new sculpt...
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Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere, but has it been outright confirmed that a proper golden version of Showa Ghidorah will only been available in some boxset? Or is that just speculation? It'd be a pretty dumb move to relegate one of the franchise's most iconic characters to that, especially for his 60th anniversary and all.

I'd love to have a toy of him, but am not sure if I'd want to fork over money for an uber-expensive set with other figures I don't want just for him...
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MaxRebo320 wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:54 am Forgive me if this has been answered elsewhere, but has it been outright confirmed that a proper golden version of Showa Ghidorah will only been available in some boxset? Or is that just speculation? It'd be a pretty dumb move to relegate one of the franchise's most iconic characters to that, especially for his 60th anniversary and all.

I'd love to have a toy of him, but am not sure if I'd want to fork over money for an uber-expensive set with other figures I don't want just for him...
Just speculation. KG64 was one of the options for last year’s poll, the winners (top 5) being sold in one set.
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UltramanGoji wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:00 amJust speculation. KG64 was one of the options for last year’s poll, the winners (top 5) being sold in one set.
Gotcha, thanks.

Is that 1991 Ghidorah still on Japanese toy store shelves? If so, I guess I could see Bandai not wanting to confuse buyers with two Ghidorahs (while there are plenty of cosmetic differences, they aren't as noticeable to the casual buyer). But I still hope this won't be the case.
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Today I received a box containing the latest exclusive BANDAI figures:

MMS Zilla '04
MMS G '23 (Heat Ray Ver.)
MMS Space G (Retro Color Ver.)
MMS G '54 (Kawamura PARCO Ver. + event pamphlet)
MMS G '54 (Giants 90th Anniversary Ver.)
Fantazzzy Toys Gigan (Jungle Green Ver.)

Zilla isn't underscaled as many started before. It is even a little too big compared to the recent FW Goji vinyl. It's short, yes, but that stems from his very hunched-forward posture. The overall size ist quite accurate to what's seen on film.

Heat Ray -1.0 Goji is... alright. It's nice they did a new mold for it, but imho it looks... fat. I'd have been OK with it just being another repaint of the standard figure.

Retro Space G has a really popping coloration, but damn, I'm tired of that outdated mold...

Kawamura PARCO G'54 has a very strange paint, but damn do the fins look good in white & red. The exclusive pamphlet is nice, too.

Yomiuri Giants 90th Anniversary G '54 is my favorite of the batch. Almost like a '54 Meltdown Godzilla, if it wasn't for the black fins.

And with the Fantazzzy Toys Jungle Gigan I finally have a complete set of the Fantazzzy Toys line. I like these a lot, despite their MSRP already being ridiculous. I hope they'll do more in the future.
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Where'd you order from? I'd have liked to get that Giants '54.
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MaxRebo320 wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:09 am
UltramanGoji wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:00 amJust speculation. KG64 was one of the options for last year’s poll, the winners (top 5) being sold in one set.
Gotcha, thanks.

Is that 1991 Ghidorah still on Japanese toy store shelves? If so, I guess I could see Bandai not wanting to confuse buyers with two Ghidorahs (while there are plenty of cosmetic differences, they aren't as noticeable to the casual buyer). But I still hope this won't be the case.
I’m sure you can still find them in Japan, but last time I checked it seemed like they didn’t have any in stock at toys r us or some mall-like stores. My impression is that they’ve been trying to get rid of stuff from 2022ish. Getting 1991 Ghidorah off the shelves makes sense.
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What's weird about the Ghidorah is that most figures released around that same time (Spring 2023) never seemed hard to get over here and eventually all of them showed up on Amazon for affordable prices. But the 91 Ghidorah never did and seems to have never sold here for anything other than inflated dealer prices.

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