Okay, so it's just the designs and Minya's kiddy character. Very standard surface-level complaints. But you seem willing to acknowledge that a few unappealing designs don't necessarily make an entire movie bad, so that puts you ahead of the majority of this fandom.MVHutch wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 9:18 amYa Ik getting that across online isn't always easy. For me eitherJAGzilla wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:31 amMy last post was meant to be jokey, but of course toneless text doesn't get that across. No anger here.
Is there anything specific about SoG as a movie that sucks, as in "is poorly made", or is it just not your thing? That's the question here. Do you consider the movie bad, or do you just not like it? That's a very key distinction.
I don't think it's poorly made, just mediocre. It's not the worst entry in the series, and I like Kamacuras and Kumonga. But the Godzilla and Minilla designs are ugly to me. Minilla is really a big part of why I don't like SoG. I don't mind Godzilla having a son or daughter, but I'd prefer a less ugly design and annoying characterization. Most of the later Showa movies are worse, imo, though
Liking Kamacuras and Kumonga gets you points, too; a lot of people write them off for not being powerful or flashy enough. Which is pretty debatable in Kumonga's case, anyway; he gave Godzilla a very serious fight.So you get where we're coming from, a big thing we emphasize around here is that when critiquing a movie, especially an older one made in a different time, the reviewer should take the movie on its own terms. Put it in its own historical context and judge it by the standards of the movies around it. Look at what it was trying to do, what kind of movie it set out to be, and judge how well it achieved that goal, rather than complaining that it isn't whatever you wish it was. To make up an example, calling Terror of Mechagodzilla objectively bad because you don't like Godzilla as a hero would be the kind of thing that gets you in a lot of trouble here. The movie can still do a lot of things well even if you don't like the premise.
This post is long enough so I'm not going to go into detail, but SoG does a great job of accomplishing what it sets out to do, and from a technical standpoint it is very well made and even impressive compared to other Showa movies. You can go back through the SoG discussion thread and find plenty of discussion on that. It's not at all a bad movie. That doesn't mean you have to like it, of course, and you're free to hate it if you want to (which you obviously don't)- we just ask that people give it a fair appraisal instead of casually dumping on it like half the fandom does.
