What's Next? Future of Toho

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Toho has been this way for years; Godzilla needs to fall under certain guidelines and retain certain character traits that Toho approves of. That hasn't changed to my knowledge, though they have been more strict with it following TriStar's 1998 attempt and the studio taking too many creative liberties at the expense of the character.

I know that in GxK's case the whole sequence with Godzilla running needed to go through approval with Toho and somewhere online they mentioned that they were very involved with the final approval during the motion capture process; they have final say on basically anything Godzilla does on screen.

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miguelnuva wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:12 am
Jomei wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:10 am
miguelnuva wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 10:05 pm

The writer rooms quote however was very reveling because it explained why every Godzilla was acting like Shin before Minus One.
It reveals nothing of the kind. The quote you linked to shows that they only have a few largely unintrusive rules.
According to Yoshikawa, these strict impositions also allow for some continuity between the way the kaiju is portrayed in Hollywood films and those released in Japan. The Toho executive says these rules have been strictly adhered to in the two most recent films about the character: ‘Godzilla Minus One,’ a Japanese production in 2023, and ‘Godzilla and Kong: The New Empire,’ an American film in 2024.
That's the full quote from one of the articles. It could be a translation era or a summarized quote but that's what I read.

https://en.as.com/meristation/news/godz ... utType=amp
Yeah, I read the quote, dude. I don't mean to be aggressive, but it just doesn't say what you said it does, and I think that's how a lot of misleading fan assumptions get started: "it explained why every Godzilla was acting like Shin before Minus One."
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Jomei wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:27 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:12 am
Jomei wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:10 am

It reveals nothing of the kind. The quote you linked to shows that they only have a few largely unintrusive rules.
According to Yoshikawa, these strict impositions also allow for some continuity between the way the kaiju is portrayed in Hollywood films and those released in Japan. The Toho executive says these rules have been strictly adhered to in the two most recent films about the character: ‘Godzilla Minus One,’ a Japanese production in 2023, and ‘Godzilla and Kong: The New Empire,’ an American film in 2024.
That's the full quote from one of the articles. It could be a translation era or a summarized quote but that's what I read.

https://en.as.com/meristation/news/godz ... utType=amp
Yeah, I read the quote, dude. I don't mean to be aggressive, but it just doesn't say what you said it does, and I think that's how a lot of misleading fan assumptions get started: "it explained why every Godzilla was acting like Shin before Minus One."
allow for some continuity between the way the kaiju is portrayed in Hollywood films and those released in Japan sounds to me like The kaiju being Godzilla needs to be portrayed similarly in media. Shin, Earth and Ultima were portrayed similarly. Wingard mentioned how Toho wanted Godzilla to act in GvsK and he had to slide things in.

I'm not going to say my interpretation is correct but that quote can be read that way unless it was a mistranslation.

The quote says the room's job is to make sure Godzilla is portrayed a certain way.

As far as aggression I didn't read that at all in the post your good. We're having a discussion on the internet and you disagree with something I posted.
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miguelnuva wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:05 pm allow for some continuity between the way the kaiju is portrayed in Hollywood films and those released in Japan sounds to me like The kaiju being Godzilla needs to be portrayed similarly in media. Shin, Earth and Ultima were portrayed similarly. Wingard mentioned how Toho wanted Godzilla to act in GvsK and he had to slide things in.

I'm not going to say my interpretation is correct but that quote can be read that way unless it was a mistranslation.

The quote says the room's job is to make sure Godzilla is portrayed a certain way.

As far as aggression I didn't read that at all in the post your good. We're having a discussion on the internet and you disagree with something I posted.
With respect, I don't believe it can be interpreted that way without inserting a lot of information that isn't in the quote. That's what I mean about how fans think of a possibility that isn't implied or even hinted at in materials, think "This could be true," and then post "This is true as shown by the quote/film/whatever."

You might not remember, but there were some rules Shin Godzilla had to adhere to as well regarding the dorsal plates etc. And for that matter, the big rules mentioned in the article are ones Shin adheres to as well--and so do the anime incarnations in-between. It's not clear at all that any of the requirements are new. It may simply be that they've expanded and formalized the review process with how many different Godzilla projects and merchandising are coming out.

So, since these are minimal requirements (Godzilla doesn't die [permanently], Godzilla doesn't eat people or other creatures), it's not clear at all that any of that has anything to do with why the Gs that followed Shin shared some of his characteristics. The more likely reason is simply inspiration or, if you're less charitable, imitating Shin in the hopes of replicating its success.
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