The "GxK 3/Monsterverse 6" News, Discussion & Speculation Thread

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Whoever gets hired to direct, please keep Junkie XL far away from the film.

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Spydrmanjr wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:59 amI think it is because people in the fandom are not getting what "they" want (vision, director, cast, writer, story, frequency, etc), and because they are not getting what "they" want they take offense and affront to it. It is doomed because it is not following the perceived trajectory in their minds.
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JAGzilla wrote: Thu May 23, 2024 4:18 amI was actually halfway serious about the multiverse angle. It's a completely legitimate option. The studio gets to use the established Monsterverse brand, the director gets to make their own movie, no one is overly confused about continuity. It opens the door for American Godzilla movies to do whatever they want without being stuck in the cinematic universe box while still using that box as an umbrella so as to avoid invoking either of the R words. Also, the base MV continuity can still be continued at the same time. Win-Win.
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If it ended today, we got way more than expected. We got way more movies, way more accolades, way more box office, an epic resurgence by Toho, a 5th movie that has surpassed all but 1 of the previous films AND got an Oscar.

We are running on house money, no reason they can't take risks going forward. Just not to the GINO level.
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I know everyone loves to put all the praise on the Monsterverse for what Toho has done with their films. But, I don't know, something is spine-crawlingly gross about pinning the accolades and awards Toho has won for Shin and Minus on the Monsterverse's influence.

MV or not, I stand firm that Toho would have come back in the game eventually with strong films regardless.

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Didn't say one had influence over the other, speaking in general terms about the franchise. Toho winning the Oscar had nothing to do with the Monsterverse. Where the MV has helped Toho is visibility and I'm sure money hasn't hurt but the film, it's vision and success was all its own.

Don't know how it's gross to think the MV had anything to do with Toho's success, I mean I suppose it's your indictment of the MV in general on a personal level which you are entitled to. IMO, Toho has benefitted greatly from the MV on a business level. Their IP has never been more valuable and it affords them the ability to take risks they might not otherwise take, Shin being a perfect example.
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Legion1979 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 12:03 pm MV or not, I stand firm that Toho would have come back in the game eventually with strong films regardless.
We know that Toho working internally and pushing for a new Japan produced Godzilla film and talking to Anno predates G14’s release. We also know that Yamazaki was approached to make a Godzilla film even after the millenium series ended. I don’t know if what Yamazaki would have made then would be as good as Minus One is now, but I agree that Toho’s recent wins are independent of the MV.

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MrRockett wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 11:27 am If it ended today, we got way more than expected. We got way more movies, way more accolades, way more box office, an epic resurgence by Toho, a 5th movie that has surpassed all but 1 of the previous films AND got an Oscar.
I’ve repeated this too often recently, but as a longtime Godzilla fan it’s crazy to see definitive and quantifiable expansion. Newer fans will forget this, but the Godzilla franchise was dead for ten years, and even after that the early modern era was shaky with significant gaps between things to be excited about.

I made a comment about how I thought 2021 was the craziest the franchise would ever be because we had GVK and Godzilla Sp in the same timeframe.

Cut to 2024 where we had one of the best Godzilla films ever, a decent tv show, and GXK which delivered on monster action+lots of other neat stuff like short films and comics. I thought we’d read the peak but I think we’re still going uphill.

What’s next, 2027 with MV6, New Toho film, LOM Season 2, An animated Godzilla show, and maybe Justice League Vs Godzilla+Kong?
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Weren't we just told in an interview that Toho was fine costing on Godzilla and G14 us why lot the fire for them to go and make Shin.

No the MV is not the reason Toho has put out two quality films but the MV or G14 specifically gave them the push to get back to work.
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miguelnuva wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 3:34 pm Weren't we just told in an interview that Toho was fine costing on Godzilla and G14 us why lot the fire for them to go and make Shin.
We were told that, yeah, but that idea seems to bother some people. :shrug:


And yes, newer fans will not believe just how busy and wild this franchise is right now. It might not seem it, compared to the big boys like the MCU, but I think this kind of slower, steady growth is proving to be a superior model. The highs might not be as high, but the lows aren't as low, either.

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If nothing else, the MonsterVerse has helped make Godzilla more mainstream than ever before, which is obviously good news for Toho.

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Garzon wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 5:13 pm If nothing else, the MonsterVerse has helped make Godzilla more mainstream than ever before, which is obviously good news for Toho.
This is perhaps the biggest success of the MV. Once the MV ends and LP reboots it years later, people will be excited to see Godzilla etc.
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One gross thing the Monsterverse has almost certainly done is open the door (leaving slime and maggots all over the doorknob) for Toho movies to be widely promoted, noticed, and watched on this side of the Pacific. It's really sickening, but the disgusting Monsterverse has brainwashed millions of drooling American morons into becoming fans of its smelly, inferior take on Godzilla. That, sadly, has probably generated mainstream interest in seeing the Japanese entries when they come along, too. The massive increase in promotion and viewership from Shin to Minus One seems to speak for itself. It really makes your spine crawl, doesn't it?
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^IKR it makes me mad! It’s like if the USA made a Mario game that hit with American audiences
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Or if the U.S. made a Sonic the Hedgehog movie that got two sequels, people liked it so much. Truly deplorable. :cry:

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The amount of doom and gloom over the last couple of pages seems like an endless loop. I was skeptical that GxK would be as big as it ended up being, but I didn't think it would open under $40m or something. I wouldn't freak out over Wingard's departure.

GvK and GxK had some lore expansion, but it was sloppily executed and favored spectacle over worldbuilding. The last two films appeared to have minimal thought put into them as a result. If that's what makes money, expect more of the same. I'm here for the ride regardless. Box office and the MV's future are beyond anyone's control aside from buying a ticket to see it.
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Showa Gyaos wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 2:34 pmGvK and GxK had some lore expansion, but it was sloppily executed and favored spectacle over worldbuilding. The last two films appeared to have minimal thought put into them as a result. If that's what makes money, expect more of the same. I'm here for the ride regardless. Box office and the MV's future are beyond anyone's control aside from buying a ticket to see it.
I don't think worldbuilding works in these kinds of movies at this point. In fact, I think a huge part of GvK's success is that it was really accessible to anyone who hadn't seen KSI and G14/GKOTM. The more you try to world-build, the more you lose being an entry point to the casual observer - saying this as someone who loves worldbuilding and used to crave more of it, I've accepted it's not the right route.
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Get Michael Bay on the phone, it’s about time…
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Voyager wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:23 am Get Michael Bay on the phone, it’s about time…
oh god no.

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Voyager wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:23 am Get Michael Bay on the phone, it’s about time…
Only if he has Steve Jablonsky with him, we will get the very best Soundtrack for GxK 3 and the MV as a whole then

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Dyrakro wrote: Mon May 27, 2024 12:11 am
Voyager wrote: Sun May 26, 2024 4:23 am Get Michael Bay on the phone, it’s about time…
Only if he has Steve Jablonsky with him, we will get the very best Soundtrack for GxK 3 and the MV as a whole then
I would love to see Steve Jablonsky do the score. Maybe not Michael Bay, but Jablonsky could probably making something amazing.
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This person on Twitter compiled a good & realistic list of directors who could potentially direct the next Godzilla/Kong film. I could see any of these directors be on the next film.

https://x.com/minuskami/status/17952941 ... C5Fag&s=19

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