Godzilla X Kong: The New Empire SPOILER/GENERAL DISCUSSION THREAD

[king_ghidorah]

I feel like Dougherty got it better than Wingard in terms of animation and movement personally. Not across the board though. Godzilla running for instance looks way better in GvK than it does in GKOtM.

And comparing the croc mode G with the beauty of what Gareth did is sacrilegious to me. Gareth is the ONLY one who has made these characters consistently move like real creatures.

[MrRockett]

I got questions/thoughts:
Godzilla spears Kong into one of the great pyramids. Could be Godzilla charging at another monster and it moves causing him to collide into Kong.
If not, perhaps Kong is being kind of a dick and just needs an attitude check
If it's their first interaction in the film, why are they in Egypt if Kong is hanging in the H.E.?
Is it possible that pyramids were built in H.E. as well?

As for wrestling moves...Kong giving the stink face to Clyde would be funny...though I prefer primates having some loose link to humanistic move sets, Godzilla should remain more blunt/reptilian/bear like.

In regards to the comment Dougherty applied sumo techniques, I can see that when Godzilla smashes Ghidorah through the building, or Kong knocking G off the aircraft carrier.

I love wrestling but please let's not have one of them doing an AA or F5, and only use a chokeslam if they get J.R. to commentate....CHOKE SLAM, CHOKE SLAM...good God almighty he's broken in half!!!

[Legion1979]

This thread is getting so difficult to follow. Is everyone talking about things that are actually happening in this film or is everyone in a speculation sprail?

[miguelnuva]

This thread is getting so difficult to follow. Is everyone talking about things that are actually happening in this film or is everyone in a speculation sprail?

The wrestling moves are a joke, the spear through the prymid is real.

[Handsome Shrek]

I still love how Godzilla is clearly stronger than Kong in these movies. The Tasman Sea fight for example still gets me: Kong put all of his strength into that one punch and Godzilla was only shaken for a second before retaliating and non-chalantly smacked Kong, effortlessly throwing him to the floor

[Kaijucifer]

I feel like Dougherty got it better than Wingard in terms of animation and movement personally. Not across the board though. Godzilla running for instance looks way better in GvK than it does in GKOtM.

And comparing the croc mode G with the beauty of what Gareth did is sacrilegious to me. Gareth is the ONLY one who has made these characters consistently move like real creatures.

I don't really agree with this. I feel Dougherty did it best, also minus the sprint to clash. Not only did Dougherty change the design to better fit a creature like Godzilla (getting rid of the ineffective sauropod feet and adding longer claws more fitting a bipedal predator, lengthening the tail and making it thicker for more power and balance, bulking Godzilla up so his body is larger proportionately to his head and changing his spines to be more erratic as if they seeped out like magma and were rapidly cooled instead of being shaped like weirdly broken glass shards). All these design choices seem to have been made not only to make Godzilla more aesthetically traditional, but also better befit a in real life creature should square cube law not exist.

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I got questions/thoughts:
Godzilla spears Kong into one of the great pyramids. Could be Godzilla charging at another monster and it moves causing him to collide into Kong.
If not, perhaps Kong is being kind of a dick and just needs an attitude check
If it's their first interaction in the film, why are they in Egypt if Kong is hanging in the H.E.?
Is it possible that pyramids were built in H.E. as well?

As for wrestling moves...Kong giving the stink face to Clyde would be funny...though I prefer primates having some loose link to humanistic move sets, Godzilla should remain more blunt/reptilian/bear like.

In regards to the comment Dougherty applied sumo techniques, I can see that when Godzilla smashes Ghidorah through the building, or Kong knocking G off the aircraft carrier.

I love wrestling but please let's not have one of them doing an AA or F5, and only use a chokeslam if they get J.R. to commentate....CHOKE SLAM, CHOKE SLAM...good God almighty he's broken in half!!!

An F5 works though! Godzilla could just hold Shimu up on his shoulders, then lift and toss him to collide with the ground with an Earth-shattering tremor!

[Godzillakuj94]

2019's tail is literally shorter than 2014's tho

[-|Enoch|-]

I got questions/thoughts:
Godzilla spears Kong into one of the great pyramids. Could be Godzilla charging at another monster and it moves causing him to collide into Kong.
If not, perhaps Kong is being kind of a dick and just needs an attitude check
If it's their first interaction in the film, why are they in Egypt if Kong is hanging in the H.E.?
Is it possible that pyramids were built in H.E. as well?

As for wrestling moves...Kong giving the stink face to Clyde would be funny...though I prefer primates having some loose link to humanistic move sets, Godzilla should remain more blunt/reptilian/bear like.

In regards to the comment Dougherty applied sumo techniques, I can see that when Godzilla smashes Ghidorah through the building, or Kong knocking G off the aircraft carrier.

I love wrestling but please let's not have one of them doing an AA or F5, and only use a chokeslam if they get J.R. to commentate....CHOKE SLAM, CHOKE SLAM...good God almighty he's broken in half!!!

has there been another plot leak? where are you getting this pyramid info from?

[Kaijucifer]

2019's tail is literally shorter than 2014's tho

Visually it would appear so but it isnt, believe it or not.

[gottatalktothefake]

I got questions/thoughts:
Godzilla spears Kong into one of the great pyramids. Could be Godzilla charging at another monster and it moves causing him to collide into Kong.
If not, perhaps Kong is being kind of a dick and just needs an attitude check
If it's their first interaction in the film, why are they in Egypt if Kong is hanging in the H.E.?
Is it possible that pyramids were built in H.E. as well?

As for wrestling moves...Kong giving the stink face to Clyde would be funny...though I prefer primates having some loose link to humanistic move sets, Godzilla should remain more blunt/reptilian/bear like.

In regards to the comment Dougherty applied sumo techniques, I can see that when Godzilla smashes Ghidorah through the building, or Kong knocking G off the aircraft carrier.

I love wrestling but please let's not have one of them doing an AA or F5, and only use a chokeslam if they get J.R. to commentate....CHOKE SLAM, CHOKE SLAM...good God almighty he's broken in half!!!

has there been another plot leak? where are you getting this pyramid info from?

Vieweranon (has been a reliable leaker for years) talked about it

[Legendary Gojira]

2019's tail is literally shorter than 2014's tho

Visually it would appear so but it isnt, believe it or not.

You sure about that? I agree with everything else you said re: Dougherty’s take on Godzilla, but I think 2014’s tail is longer than 2019’s.

I could be wrong, though.

[-|Enoch|-]

I got questions/thoughts:
Godzilla spears Kong into one of the great pyramids. Could be Godzilla charging at another monster and it moves causing him to collide into Kong.
If not, perhaps Kong is being kind of a dick and just needs an attitude check
If it's their first interaction in the film, why are they in Egypt if Kong is hanging in the H.E.?
Is it possible that pyramids were built in H.E. as well?

As for wrestling moves...Kong giving the stink face to Clyde would be funny...though I prefer primates having some loose link to humanistic move sets, Godzilla should remain more blunt/reptilian/bear like.

In regards to the comment Dougherty applied sumo techniques, I can see that when Godzilla smashes Ghidorah through the building, or Kong knocking G off the aircraft carrier.

I love wrestling but please let's not have one of them doing an AA or F5, and only use a chokeslam if they get J.R. to commentate....CHOKE SLAM, CHOKE SLAM...good God almighty he's broken in half!!!

has there been another plot leak? where are you getting this pyramid info from?

Vieweranon (has been a reliable leaker for years) talked about it

thanks for the intel. has he posted anything else regarding GxK?

[gottatalktothefake]

^aside from corroborating the other leaks, no

[-|Enoch|-]

^aside from corroborating the other leaks, no

thanks. what did he say about the other leaks?

[King Dan]

Why does the new Ape titan look like a cross between Bert from Sesame Street and Clifford?? Why??

[Legendary Minya]

Why does the new Ape titan look like a cross between Bert from Sesame Street and Clifford?? Why??

Because American designers suck at creating/naming new monsters?

"Oh I don't know, just chop the trunk off a mammoth and call it....what's another word for mammoth....Behemoth. That's good enough."

[DynomikeGojira]

Um Pacific Rim, Cloverfield, The Relic numerous other examples.

[-|Enoch|-]

VA tweeted there is no son of kong in the movie.

[king_ghidorah]

Not an actual son of Kong but an adopted one ala Grogu

[LegendZilla]

Why does the new Ape titan look like a cross between Bert from Sesame Street and Clifford?? Why??

Because American designers suck at creating/naming new monsters?

"Oh I don't know, just chop the trunk off a mammoth and call it....what's another word for mammoth....Behemoth. That's good enough."

Exactly why do Americans suck at designing and/or naming monsters? Is it a lack of cultural and contextual ideas that are innately Japanese?