How does Moguera conpare to MechaGodzilla?

[Infinity]

You take the term "realistic" way too skreeonk seriously. I'm gonna start using verisimilitude. Its got too many letters.

I hope its not coming off as rude. I have this tendency to go into extreme details when debating. I'm done with it anyway.

[antovald20]

I think Moguera is pretty cool, here look.Just ignore the little robot girl Ha!

[Breakdown]

^ Thats some pretty awesome art.

[Rody]

I think that almost looks worse than the suit.

[Kiryu2012]

I think Moguera is pretty cool, here look.Just ignore the little robot girl Ha!

I always did like his design.

[Rai'drik]

anyone else besides me considered the Spiral Grenades might be an evolution of the G-crusher/Shock Anchor? They do seem to have enough power to punch through kaiju flesh (blowing up Space Godzilla's crystals)

[Mincecraft]

Didnt the JSDF guy in GxMG say Kiryu's form is based off of Godzilla for maximum combat efficency or something?

That's the thing. Kiryu and 70's Mechagodzilla actually fought up close with punches and kicks sometimes (and even tail in Kiryu's case), unlike Heisei Mechagodzilla who never used his arms or legs for anything. It's like why even give it arms and legs when you're not even gonna use them for anything but walking and shock anchors?

But oddly enough, staying at range benefitted MGII. He came the closest to killing Godzilla, whereas the other 2 put themselves in needless danger.

[Mincecraft]

Yeah. But as a collective, I think MGII did the best.

Happy Canada Day to those Canadians on the Forums!

[Amp87]

There is really no comparison between the two Mecha Godzilla was specifically designed to kill Godzilla and take over the world. Moguera was controlled by pilots from the JSDF to help Godzilla take down Space Godzilla and he did but was ultimately destroyed by Space Godzilla in the end. The suit design is okay minor cosmetic changes from its original version from many years prior and has a host of weapons and defenses but that all depends on the pilots.

[Gojira18]

One nearly killed Godzilla, the other was a massive jobber.

[Legion1979]

The best thing about MOGERA were the Bandai toys.

[ShinGojira14]

"Con"pare? I'm fairly certain neither MOGEURA nor MechaGodzilla went to prison, scooby.

All jokes aside; MOGEURA's cool and all, but MechaGodzilla is undoubtedly the superior mech.

[TitanoGoji16]

I think we're letting favoritism get in our way just a tad here.

Mechagodzilla would overheat and break down any time Godzilla looked at it hard enough. It was badly damaged by Rodan, a kaiju that, based on their respective weights, should bounce off of Mechagodzilla. One of its best weapons, the Shock Anchor, could be instantly turned against it if Godzilla decided to send his Nuclear Pulse up the cables (which he does pretty quickly). If Godzilla got within melee range, there was literally nothing Mechagodzilla could do.

Once it was shielded against SpaceGodzilla's EMPs (something that would affect plenty of other mechs as well), MOGERA could take on kaiju like SpaceGodzilla for extended periods of time and survive long enough to fall back and regroup. It could take hard hits from some top tier kaiju and keep on fighting. Instead of being scared of close quarters combat, it sought it out, stabbing foes with its nose drill. There's also the fact that it can leave the Earth's atmosphere and can separate into two different mechs, which offers more combat options.

I know MOGERA's just the "goofy penguin robot," guys, but come on.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Yeah M.O.G.U.E.R.A.. is definitely "stronger/more advanced" and it is funny to me that people assocaite Mechagodzilla as being stronger due to favoritism. Moguera is a pretty powerful robot and definitely no slouch. Titanogoji16 summed it up nicely above me, but there's more.

Mainly M.O.G.U.E.R.A. fixed all the problems that Heisei MG suffered from. It appears to have just as much firepower, if not more, but also has added mobility. The treads allowed it to move pretty quickly on the ground, as well as retreat with ease; something that the bulky and sluggish MG would have desperately loved.

The missiles that M.O.G.U.E.R.A. fires, the spiral grenade missiles, are an improved version of the G-Crusher strategy. Why get close to Godzilla and risk being damaged/attatched to Godzilla if you can just fire safely from a distance? We know they're pretty damn powerful, as they break through SG's crystals and massively cripple it. There's a good chance that this really was the blow that lead towards SG's defeat.

This is based on what we see in the film, but if you want to count guidebooks and extra film stuff, M.O.G.U.E.R.A. is stated to have eye beams that are 3x times more powerful than MG's laser cannons. Additionally, because they're volleys of fire, rather than a continual shot, M.O.G.U.E.R.A. can fire a lot more rounds at once.

M.O.G.U.E.R.A. is the superior mech. While this might be controversial, it's possibly one of the most advanced, and versatile, Godzilla mechs to ever be created in universe.

[HedorahIsBestGirl]

In regards to Moguera being more powerful than Mechagodzilla, I think a lot of that comes from the "extended canon." In addition to the stats mentioned above, isn't there a manga adaptation where Moguera one-shots Mechagodzilla? In the film itself, Moguera is definitely much more mobile than Mechagodzilla but I never got the impression that it was more powerful. I'd have to watch the film again to judge but that would require me to watch Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla for the second time in a year and I don't want to put myself through that.

Anyway, I will fully admit that Mechagodzilla is one of my favorite kaiju and Moguera is one of my least favorites. It just doesn't do much for me. Maybe that influences my opinion but I feel like, based on onscreen evidence, Mechagodzilla still comes across as more powerful. It's true the spiral grenades seemed quite powerful though. Too bad we didn't get to see Moguera have a proper fight with Godzilla, that would make it easier to judge.

I also have an actual question about Moguera's destruction. Did Godzilla intentionally destroy it or did it just get caught in the crossfire? My memory was always that it got struck by a stray hyper spiral ray while Godzilla was attacking Space Godzilla but the last time I watched, it looked deliberate. Thoughts on this?

[Gojira18]

In regards to Moguera being more powerful than Mechagodzilla, I think a lot of that comes from the "extended canon." In addition to the stats mentioned above, isn't there a manga adaptation where Moguera one-shots Mechagodzilla? In the film itself, Moguera is definitely much more mobile than Mechagodzilla but I never got the impression that it was more powerful. I'd have to watch the film again to judge but that would require me to watch Godzilla vs. Space Godzilla for the second time in a year and I don't want to put myself through that.

Anyway, I will fully admit that Mechagodzilla is one of my favorite kaiju and Moguera is one of my least favorites. It just doesn't do much for me. Maybe that influences my opinion but I feel like, based on onscreen evidence, Mechagodzilla still comes across as more powerful. It's true the spiral grenades seemed quite powerful though. Too bad we didn't get to see Moguera have a proper fight with Godzilla, that would make it easier to judge.

I also have an actual question about Moguera's destruction. Did Godzilla intentionally destroy it or did it just get caught in the crossfire? My memory was always that it got struck by a stray hyper spiral ray while Godzilla was attacking Space Godzilla but the last time I watched, it looked deliberate. Thoughts on this?

Iirc, it was just caught in the crossfire when Godzilla blew SpaceGodzilla to kingdom come.

[edgaguirus]

Moguera was in the wrong place at the wrong time. However, the mech fought well and performed two critical roles in the battle. First, it took out the tower and removed SG's power conduit. Second, the destruction of the shoulder crystals.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Moguera was in the wrong place at the wrong time. However, the mech fought well and performed two critical roles in the battle. First, it took out the tower and removed SG's power conduit. Second, the destruction of the shoulder crystals.

Honestly, of all Godzillas "allies", MOGUERA really put in the most individual work.

MOGUERA's efforts led (happy Mikelcho?) to SG's defeat, and while other monsters helped in other circumstances, I don't think quite like this.