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Sammy19 wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 5:10 am
Kaijucifer wrote: Fri Nov 18, 2022 4:33 pm
Sammy19 wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 2:30 pm So, Legendary is considering to move to either Sony or Paramount: https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/stat ... 04643?s=20. Wonder how Kong will be affected.
Kong is public domain. King Kong is not. They can transition with few problems. What you SHOULD be worried about is how Godzilla will be affected. And they should totally go to Paramount, so we can adapt Godzilla vs The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
Not worried about Godzilla cause Toho is protective of their child.
That's the problem. If Paramount hesitates to play by Toho's rules, Toho is very likely to take their ball and go home. Which would be better than risking another GINO, admittedly.
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Paramount or Sony would only be the distribution partners if Legendary moves and besides I still don't see WB letting the MV go which happened the last time although granted there was no David Zaslav at the time.

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DynomikeGojira wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 7:41 am Paramount or Sony would only be the distribution partners if Legendary moves and besides I still don't see WB letting the MV go which happened the last time although granted there was no David Zaslav at the time.
WB can't stop the MV from going they can only stop Legendary from directly showing clips of the WB films.

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Kong is public domain. King Kong is not. They can transition with few problems. What you SHOULD be worried about is how Godzilla will be affected. And they should totally go to Paramount, so we can adapt Godzilla vs The Mighty Morphin Power Rangers.
Not worried about Godzilla cause Toho is protective of their child.
That's the problem. If Paramount hesitates to play by Toho's rules, Toho is very likely to take their ball and go home. Which would be better than risking another GINO, admittedly.
Toho's rules are almost as destructive as G98 was to Godzilla as a character.
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miguelnuva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:48 am Toho's rules are almost as destructive as G98 was to Godzilla as a character.
Creatively, maybe. Financially? Look around. Whatever they're doing, it's working.
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I'm honestly not concerned about Toho's rules, nor do I think you guys should. They've loosened up a lot since the days pre-2014, and they more than likely know when there's a bad deal. Plus, worse case scenario Godzilla's rights from Legendary/WB go back to Toho and they shuffle around to the next studio.
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I think TOHO's "rules" are just suggestions considering godzilla's personality in KOTM and GvK
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David Zaslav is a controversially hard-hitter when it comes to axing content, but like he said. WB needs blockbusters, they need Superman, they need Batman, they need Dune, I have no doubt in my mind that he was a huge fan of how well Godzilla vs Kong did under strenuous circumstances. So I don't see him letting Legendary go without a proposal.

Even back in August, he said: "We will fully embrace Theatrical"
https://deadline.com/2022/08/warner-bro ... 235085460/

The article you guys are referencing is from August, so I wonder if cooler heads prevailed or not? Personally, I don't want Sony touching the franchise with a ten foot pole. Universal would give the films respect, and with the Fast and Furious franchise on its last wheels, they're going to need a new franchise to latch onto, but we'd get probably one MV film every 7 years. I don't know about you guys but I barely hear whispers from Paramount these days that aren't attached to Nickelodeon or Hasbro.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:07 pm David Zaslav is a controversially hard-hitter when it comes to axing content, but like he said. WB needs blockbusters, they need Superman, they need Batman, they need Dune, I have no doubt in my mind that he was a huge fan of how well Godzilla vs Kong did under strenuous circumstances. So I don't see him letting Legendary go without a proposal.

Even back in August, he said: "We will fully embrace Theatrical"
https://deadline.com/2022/08/warner-bro ... 235085460/

The article you guys are referencing is from August, so I wonder if cooler heads prevailed or not? Personally, I don't want Sony touching the franchise with a ten foot pole. Universal would give the films respect, and with the Fast and Furious franchise on its last wheels, they're going to need a new franchise to latch onto, but we'd get probably one MV film every 7 years. I don't know about you guys but I barely hear whispers from Paramount these days that aren't attached to Nickelodeon or Hasbro.
So you've never heard of A Quiet Place, Mission Impossible, and this little film known as Top Gun: Maverick? :?
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NSZ wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:13 pm
_JNavs_ wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:07 pm David Zaslav is a controversially hard-hitter when it comes to axing content, but like he said. WB needs blockbusters, they need Superman, they need Batman, they need Dune, I have no doubt in my mind that he was a huge fan of how well Godzilla vs Kong did under strenuous circumstances. So I don't see him letting Legendary go without a proposal.

Even back in August, he said: "We will fully embrace Theatrical"
https://deadline.com/2022/08/warner-bro ... 235085460/

The article you guys are referencing is from August, so I wonder if cooler heads prevailed or not? Personally, I don't want Sony touching the franchise with a ten foot pole. Universal would give the films respect, and with the Fast and Furious franchise on its last wheels, they're going to need a new franchise to latch onto, but we'd get probably one MV film every 7 years. I don't know about you guys but I barely hear whispers from Paramount these days that aren't attached to Nickelodeon or Hasbro.
So you've never heard of A Quiet Place, Mission Impossible, and this little film known as Top Gun: Maverick? :?
Top Gun, the film from thirty six years ago? The sequel hadn't really blipped my radar, besides how it did at the box office, so no I had no clue it was a Paramount production. A Quiet Place was a John Krasinsky directorial debut, which hit headlines a lot more often than who the studio was, so no that hadn't occurred to me either. Mission Impossible being Tom Cruise's life-goal when it comes to action films is what I'm aware of when it comes to those films, so no I hadn't really had "Paramount Pictures Corporation Presents: Mission Impossible 6: Rogue Nation" on the mind either.

What I do recall is their Nickelodeon collection, Transformers releases, a weak attempt at streaming with Paramount Plus, and the Halo series... which, the less said the better. But hey looking at their catalogue they've had some classics, just not as many as some of the others. I'd feel hopeful in knowing they were strictly financially producing, while Legendary puts in the elbow grease they're known for.
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JAGzilla wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:44 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:48 am Toho's rules are almost as destructive as G98 was to Godzilla as a character.
Creatively, maybe. Financially? Look around. Whatever they're doing, it's working.
Shin was a success, SP and the Polygon trilogy not so much to my understanding. It also is going to limit Godzilla in the MV if he acted like Shin.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 4:07 pm David Zaslav is a controversially hard-hitter when it comes to axing content, but like he said. WB needs blockbusters, they need Superman, they need Batman, they need Dune, I have no doubt in my mind that he was a huge fan of how well Godzilla vs Kong did under strenuous circumstances. So I don't see him letting Legendary go without a proposal.

Even back in August, he said: "We will fully embrace Theatrical"
https://deadline.com/2022/08/warner-bro ... 235085460/

The article you guys are referencing is from August, so I wonder if cooler heads prevailed or not? Personally, I don't want Sony touching the franchise with a ten foot pole. Universal would give the films respect, and with the Fast and Furious franchise on its last wheels, they're going to need a new franchise to latch onto, but we'd get probably one MV film every 7 years. I don't know about you guys but I barely hear whispers from Paramount these days that aren't attached to Nickelodeon or Hasbro.
Yeah Universal a no go from what I understand they have a strained relationship and was nowhere near as successful as the WB partnership.
I agree that David Zaslav wants to keep working with Legendary especially after how well Godzilla vs Kong and Dune performed considering the circumstances.

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miguelnuva wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:46 pm
JAGzilla wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 12:44 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 9:48 am Toho's rules are almost as destructive as G98 was to Godzilla as a character.
Creatively, maybe. Financially? Look around. Whatever they're doing, it's working.
Shin was a success, SP and the Polygon trilogy not so much to my understanding. It also is going to limit Godzilla in the MV if he acted like Shin.
Was SP not much of a success?
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CyberZilla wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:12 am
miguelnuva wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 10:46 pm
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Creatively, maybe. Financially? Look around. Whatever they're doing, it's working.
Shin was a success, SP and the Polygon trilogy not so much to my understanding. It also is going to limit Godzilla in the MV if he acted like Shin.
Was SP not much of a success?
I'm not sure but an anime that ended with a season 2 hook didn't get anything announced at Godzilla day seems odd.
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Im not sure where this idea that Toho would just turn Legendary Godzilla into shin if they could is coming from.

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Executive Hamster wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:39 pm Im not sure where this idea that Toho would just turn Legendary Godzilla into shin if they could is coming from.
The template Toho has used for their last 3 Godzillas plus what Adam Wingard had to weave around in his film.
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That's entirely conjecture. I see no reason to draw any conclusions based on that.
miguelnuva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:46 pm .... plus what Adam Wingard had to weave around in his film.

Elaborate.
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Executive Hamster wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 6:25 am That's entirely conjecture. I see no reason to draw any conclusions based on that.
miguelnuva wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 5:46 pm .... plus what Adam Wingard had to weave around in his film.

Elaborate.
https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/05/ ... a-vs-kong/

And its not conjecture. If somone does something 3 times worrying about them doing it a 4th is not conjecture.
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miguelnuva wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:39 amAnd its not conjecture. If somone does something 3 times worrying about them doing it a 4th is not conjecture.
By this logic, you have 3 MonsterVerse movies in which Godzilla is not his Shin incarnation and you have nothing to worry about ;)
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Fermix wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:40 pm
miguelnuva wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:39 amAnd its not conjecture. If somone does something 3 times worrying about them doing it a 4th is not conjecture.
By this logic, you have 3 MonsterVerse movies in which Godzilla is not his Shin incarnation and you have nothing to worry about ;)
Expect Toho sent them dos and don't saying they want him to act a certain way. Which I said I hope Legendary doesn't do.
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I would highly doubt those dos and don'ts said to make him like Shin Godzilla, Ultima, Earth, etc. Especially considering the Monsterverse predates them.

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