Talkback: Godzilla vs. Megaguirus (2000)

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Terasawa wrote:Did you know that GxM is "the pinnacle of the Heisei Godzilla series"?

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So proclaims Toho's 2001 VHS/DVD artwork.
Well I mean, they’re not wrong, on both fronts. It did come out in Japan’s Heisei period, and, it has a lot of Heisei elements such as the weapon to kill Godzilla that fails.
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It probably predates the official "Millennium Series" name but I just thought it was interesting that they deliberately tied it to the Heisei Godzilla Series.
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Terasawa wrote:It probably predates the official "Millennium Series" name but I just thought it was interesting that they deliberately tied it to the Heisei Godzilla Series.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the term "vs Series" initially used to differentiate the earlier Heisei entries from the "Millennium Series," with all of them falling under the larger Heisei umbrella? Or was "vs Series" always strictly a fan appellation?
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IIRC, "Vs. Series" is a Japanese fandom nickname but I think Toho officially refers to the two series as the "Heisei" and "Millennium" series.
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Terasawa wrote:It probably predates the official "Millennium Series" name but I just thought it was interesting that they deliberately tied it to the Heisei Godzilla Series.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the term "vs Series" initially used to differentiate the earlier Heisei entries from the "Millennium Series," with all of them falling under the larger Heisei umbrella?
I think UG's right: I believe "VS Series" was coined by Japanese fans while that series was still in production (so some time during the 1990s). (Who wants to dig through G-Fans to check if it was being used by JD back then too?) I don't know when or in what context "Heisei Godzilla Series" was first used but IIRC it's spoken in at least some of the making of specials for the 1989-1995 films.

Both "VS" and "Heisei" are used on Japanese Wikipedia pages: it's the only series that uses two titles. For example, here and here.
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Omni Viewer does a very good job explaining how GxMG is a far superior film to this film, and for those who haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
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VoyagerGoji wrote:Omni Viewer does a very good job explaining how GxMG is a far superior film to this film, and for those who haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
Despite the superficial plot/character similarities, the two movies are too tonally different for any kind of 1:1 comparison to make sense.

And to my mind, while GxMG may be better by most measures (certainly not all), it ain't nearly a good enough movie to be considered "far superior" to anything else in the Godzilla series.
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Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.
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Terasawa wrote:Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.
To some, maybe. Not for me, of course, it was one of my first G-movies and one of my favourites.
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Terasawa wrote:Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.
Seriously though, I always thought that movie was close to two hours until I finally looked up the length. Still can't believe it isn't even an hour and a half...
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Terasawa wrote:Speaking of, doesn’t GxMG feel like the longest 88-minute movie ever? That thing draaaags.
It definitely sags in places, but for me Tokyo SOS is the one that really feels interminable.
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That’s true. Neither one feels much shorter than the Heisei Godzillas that run in the 100-minute range.
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The most inexcusable reboot ever. Seriously, this film coulda had at least some benefit to continuity with G2000. I've even seen fan rewrites that do that exact thing and it proves to be a boon.
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A messily written, boring slog of a movie that feels like the (very) rough draft of Against Mechagodzilla in terms of human characters, and also like two movies stapled together with the vastly disparate plots of the military plans with the Dimension Tide and the Meganula incursion. It’s only highlights are the monster stuff. Imo it is the worst movie of the Millenium series, easily.
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Terasawa wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 10:45 am Did you know that GxM is "the pinnacle of the Heisei Godzilla series"?

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So proclaims Toho's 2001 VHS/DVD artwork.
Also references the film as a threeway fight between Godzilla, Megagurius and humanity, which is accurate. The Japanese title, G-Destruction Strategy: Godzilla vs. Megaugurius is a better descriptor of the film but is for obvious reasons too wordy.
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And the tagline is an obvious reference to Ghidrah's original title.

GxM tagline: 地球最大の死闘 The Greatest Death Battle on Earth
GtTHM title: 三大怪獣 地球最大の決戦 Three Giant Monsters: The Greatest Battle on Earth
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Until the anime films showed up, this was in my bottom 3 when it came to Toho-produced Godzilla films. I have no desire to ever watch it again.

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I enjoy Megaguiris more than the Kiryu films honestly. I think the Kiryu films are more polished, with much better FX, but... the take on Godzilla in Megaguiris is awesome. The climactic fight is great. I also really like the miniature work during the RPG assault by the G-grapsers. (that miniature garbage can for instance)
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Watching this pretty much back-to-back with GMK really highlights how much better Mothra was executed just a year later versus Megaguirus.

Regardless, this is still fun. It charmingly takes itself seriously at times despite it's sillier elements (miniaturized black hole and all).
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