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Cryptid_Liker wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 8:08 am
Jermobooka wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 8:05 am I love all the Singular Point designs. Godzilla, Jet Jaguar, Anguirus, hell, even Rodan.

I think they’re all cool, new, unique, and creative designs that fit perfectly for a Godzilla anime

Sometimes it seems people just want the Heisei designs for everything :lol:
Yeah, especially Godzilla. They’re all really good, but Godzilla, in particular, is a masterpiece.
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godjacob wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:42 pm
KK42 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:41 pm I never understood the rat comparison. He looks nothing like a rat.
I think it is just a lazy critique to try and dismiss FinalGoji given both it and Final Wars are as polarizing as they are to the fandom.
Or, to some of us, the suit's face has a rat-like aspect that you guys don't happen to see.
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Gigantis wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:50 am Honestly Sony's proposed title for GMK (Godzilla Must Be Killed!) is so.. hilariously awesome i kinda wish they made the English dub.
Wow, I did not know that Sony was going to do that lol
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It’s amazing how little hype I have for Singular Point.

I’ll watch it when it comes to Netflix, I guess, but if it remained a Japanese exclusive or went to a streaming service I don’t already have, I wouldn’t go out of my way to hunt it down. I’d be quite content with never seeing it.

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I'm a little on the apathetic side with SP, too. I'm absolutely looking forward to it, but I'm not counting the days or particularly impatient about it like I get with the live action movies. I blame the Monster Planet Trilogy, I guess. It killed my hype for kaiju anime. Hopefully SP turns that around.

And on a related note, I completely forget that Pacific Rim: The Black exists unless I see it mentioned here. It just disappears from my mind otherwise. I need to actually make myself watch it, at some point here...
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KK42 wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 5:05 pm It’s amazing how little hype I have for Singular Point.

I’ll watch it when it comes to Netflix, I guess, but if it remained a Japanese exclusive or went to a streaming service I don’t already have, I wouldn’t go out of my way to hunt it down. I’d be quite content with never seeing it.

Crazy to think about.
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I hope Singular Point is a success as I really want more animated Godzilla films/series. I'm enjoying it so far and it's doing some pretty interesting things with Godzilla and company.

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I just want it to be June already so I can watch it >-<
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As someone who's watching fansubs, I'm really enjoying Singular Point so far.
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Cryptid_Liker wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 8:08 am
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 9:49 pm Tbh, on this note, I've never gotten the "cat" comparisons people bring about BioGoji
He definitely looks feline-esque.

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Jermobooka wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 8:05 am I love all the Singular Point designs. Godzilla, Jet Jaguar, Anguirus, hell, even Rodan.

I think they’re all cool, new, unique, and creative designs that fit perfectly for a Godzilla anime

Sometimes it seems people just want the Heisei designs for everything :lol:
Yeah, sans Godzilla, they're all really good. Anguirus, in particular, is a masterpiece.
I've only seen pictures of the Anguillas design, but it already impresses. I'd love to see the beast in action.
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CrimsonBloodX wrote: Thu May 06, 2021 3:45 pm
Gigantis wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 8:50 am Honestly Sony's proposed title for GMK (Godzilla Must Be Killed!) is so.. hilariously awesome i kinda wish they made the English dub.
Wow, I did not know that Sony was going to do that lol
Wow...that's interesting even if the tone of that title doesn't really fit the film. I always assumed the simplest solution would have been to just call it "Godzilla: All Out Attack" in the same way they went with just "Godzilla: Tokyo S.O.S"

I also feel like I've waited my whole life to get the following titles:
Godzilla Returns - YES we have "The Return of Godzilla" but honestly that is just a wordy version of a better title
Godzilla Reborn
Godzilla Rises
Godzilla: Evolution

Yes...they are all generic....but honestly when compared to something excessive like "Godzilla, Mothra, and King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack"...they do the job.

I also think the final 3 titles would have all been great alternate options for "Shin Godzilla"...I get that they initially picked "Godzilla: Resurgence" and then decided to change it after Independence Day: Resurgence came out....but dang, I would have loved if they just went with SOME proper English Title for the film.

I think something like "Shin Godzilla" creates a barrier. In conversation, search engine algorithms, keyword searches etc....I feel like "Shin Godzilla" specifically hinders how effectively word of mouth about the existence and awareness of that movie absolutely threw a wrench into some of its potential to make an impact here in the USA.

I mean...couldyou imagine if the OFFICIAL English title for one of the 70s films was literally "Godzilla Tai Megalon"....how much more obscure that film would be in the public consciousness?

If there is a word in your title that makes an average joe go "wait, what's it called?" or "What does that mean?" when they hear it....it isn't a great title.

Like damn....the hardcore fans don't mind any of this stuff, but the common American audiences need common American titles with some level of 'generic' to them!
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While SP has some nifty action sequences it is fairly dialogue heavy and there's a tendency to fall into technical jargon often. Still every episode ends with a great hook to keep you interested, the characters are all fairly distinct, and there's a nice sense of mystery and escalation. I could see how the scientific talk can turn people off. Even someone like myself who enjoys the hell out of it has a lot of stuff kind go over my head. Still I would recommend you watch it dubbed as there's a lot of information thrown at you and its kinda hard keeping up with the subtitles. Having never watched a Netflix dub I can't comment of the quality of the casting sadly. Do they always use the same crew?
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Chrispy_G wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 2:12 am Godzilla Returns - YES we have "The Return of Godzilla" but honestly that is just a wordy version of a better title
Unless you're just taking some hard-line "passive voice is always bad" stance, I don't see how Godzilla Returns is the stronger of those two options. The Return of Godzilla has a better rhythm, and feels ominous/portentous, where Godzilla Returns feels more... heroic, maybe?
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eabaker wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 6:44 am
Chrispy_G wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 2:12 am Godzilla Returns - YES we have "The Return of Godzilla" but honestly that is just a wordy version of a better title
Unless you're just taking some hard-line "passive voice is always bad" stance, I don't see how Godzilla Returns is the stronger of those two options. The Return of Godzilla has a better rhythm, and feels ominous/portentous, where Godzilla Returns feels more... heroic, maybe?
Yeah, I’d have to agree with this. Godzilla Returns makes me think of Batman Returns, or Superman Returns.
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I would hate to see any of those titles become a reality, they're the sort of thing you attach to the most generic schlock. All you're missing is Godzilla Resurrection.

If somebody gets filtered by Shin Godzilla's title alone then they probably wouldn't like the actual movie anyway.
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And I don't think any of those titles have the pulpy charm or, well, the Japanese-ness of Godzilla, Mothra, King Ghidorah: Giant Monsters All-Out Attack.
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I don't think there's much truth to the "Godzilla Must Be Killed" story.

Edit: And I'd ask Michael Schlesinger (producer/director of Sony's G2K and writer of the aborted "Godzilla Reborn" script) himself, since he's about the only approachable person I know who could possibly confirm or deny that with any real authority, but the only way I know of contacting him is through a message board account he hasn't used in over two years. SOL, as they say.
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Terasawa wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 am I don't think there's much truth to the "Godzilla Must Be Killed" story.
Though, honestly, I don't think that title is entirely unsuitable for the movie, or at least its second half.
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eabaker wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 11:00 am
Terasawa wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 am I don't think there's much truth to the "Godzilla Must Be Killed" story.
Though, honestly, I don't think that title is entirely unsuitable for the movie, or at least its second half.
I also think if the Japanese title was meant to evoke the 1960s Toho monster movies, then it's fitting to have an American title that would likewise evoke American (or British, in this case) monster movies of the same period.
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Terasawa wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 11:11 am
eabaker wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 11:00 am
Terasawa wrote: Fri May 14, 2021 10:58 am I don't think there's much truth to the "Godzilla Must Be Killed" story.
Though, honestly, I don't think that title is entirely unsuitable for the movie, or at least its second half.
I also think if the Japanese title was meant to evoke the 1960s Toho monster movies, then it's fitting to have an American title that would likewise evoke American (or British, in this case) monster movies of the same period.
Yeah, that's pretty much my feeling as well.
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