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What is your favorite DC film thus far?

Man of Steel
1
4%
Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice
2
8%
Suicide Squad
1
4%
Wonder Woman
1
4%
Justice League
0
No votes
Aquaman
1
4%
Shazam!
7
28%
Birds of Prey
2
8%
Wonder Woman 1984
0
No votes
Zack Snyder's Justice League
10
40%
 
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Except Evil Superman works. Can't just gloss over entire pieces of active fandom for the sake of making us seem smaller and more insignificant in comparison to some boogeyman "majority".

He shouldn't always be evil, but no one can deny he works perfectly as a villain.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:55 pm Except Evil Superman works. Can't just gloss over entire pieces of active fandom for the sake of making us seem smaller and more insignificant in comparison to some boogeyman "majority".

He shouldn't always be evil, but no one can deny he works perfectly as a villain.
I mean, Batman can work as a villain. Wonder Woman can work as a villain. Spider-Man, the X-Men, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, all can work as villains in some alternate reality tale, sure. Doesn't mean it should happen or be pursued at all. There's nothing about Superman that works better as a villain compared to any hero. Why should he be made into a villain? He's a hero. He works best as a hero. And he's had to play the villain more than enough lately.
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_JNavs_ wrote: Tue Apr 13, 2021 7:55 pm Except Evil Superman works. Can't just gloss over entire pieces of active fandom for the sake of making us seem smaller and more insignificant in comparison to some boogeyman "majority".

He shouldn't always be evil, but no one can deny he works perfectly as a villain.

He works when he's used every now and then to show the bad side of his heroism, he doesn't work when in the past 8 years, we have gotten 6 examples of evil Superman, 2 examples of expies who are evil Superman, and a company controlling the property who has admitted they don't know how to make the character interesting as is and have all but confirmed that they will likely always be doing evil Superman.

This has nothing to do with no one liking it, people do, or that it can't work because it can!, it's I'd like the character I love to be portrayed as he NORMALLY is, not always as the alternative.

Also, last I checked, no one said anything about a minority or a majority. We were just expressing our distaste with where lazy WB was taking the character in our own opinions.
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Favourite is still Shazam. I don’t care for any other film.
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Voyager wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:38 am Favourite is still Shazam. I don’t care for any other film.
Ditto here, closest is the first Wonder Woman but even then I think it's ok but overrated at best.
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GodzillaFan1990's wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 5:29 am
Voyager wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 4:38 am Favourite is still Shazam. I don’t care for any other film.
Ditto here, closest is the first Wonder Woman but even then I think it's ok but overrated at best.
Add me to the list. Shazam was super fun and kept me pretty invested. The other DCEU movies however ranged from “It’s okay” to “Man, I don’t like this” pretty quickly.
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Shazam was incredibly cringey and childish for me personally. The parts with Billy were good but everything else felt like a Spy Kids parody.

The third act was incredibly hokey, the villain was lex luthor if he was in a Disney Original. It felt incredibly one note.

I need my superheros with a bit more substance and a bit less "ha ha ha its so much fun stopping the world's problems one murderous villain at a time"
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As it personally stands both Shazam! and Joker are my favorite DC films as of current. The Suicide Squad of this year has the potential to be up there too. Same with the upcoming Shazam sequel, Matt Reeve's Batman, and Black Adam.

Honestly I should get around to watching the Christopher Reeves Superman and Tim Burton Batman movies to see how they hold up to Shazam and Joker.
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My favorite DC films are The Dark Knight and Joker, my favorite DCEU films are Wonder Woman and Birds of Prey.

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As fun as The Suicide Squad looks, as fun as The Guardians of the Galaxy are, my favorite James Gunn film will likely always be Super.
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GodzillaFan1990's wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 10:08 am As it personally stands both Shazam! and Joker are my favorite DC films as of current. The Suicide Squad of this year has the potential to be up there too. Same with the upcoming Shazam sequel, Matt Reeve's Batman, and Black Adam.

Honestly I should get around to watching the Christopher Reeves Superman and Tim Burton Batman movies to see how they hold up to Shazam and Joker.
I thought Shazam was just fine tbh. A good, fun movie that I probably won't watch again. Don't get the mass hype it gets.

Which still puts it in the upper echelon of the DCEU.
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Do any of you mind if I state how I would re-imaging of Superman, in other words, a "Shin" version of the character? In his 1938 comic debut, The Man of Steel did not have most of his familiar abilities most associate him with such as flight and heat vision. All he could do was jump to extraordinary heights, run faster than a speeding bullet and of course his nigh invulnerability and super-strength. I would have him start out this way and maybe he acquires his other abilities later on through scattered state-of-the-art Kryptonian tech. Such equipment he gains includes a solar-powered anti-gravity suit, contact lenses that give him X-ray vision and heat vision as well as maybe even a chrono-reversal detonator that reverses time by a certain amount over a single given area.

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Nope. I don’t like the idea of Superman having his abilities through tech. He’s not Ironman or Batman.

That being said, I could be onboard with reverting to his earlier more limited abilities. If handled well it could be very interesting. And I could also be onboard with him developing/discovering more abilities slowly over time. But they need to be “natural” and not technologically derived.
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Normal DC conversation, please. No more of whatever the hell that just was.
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Vakanai wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:01 pm As fun as The Suicide Squad looks, as fun as The Guardians of the Galaxy are, my favorite James Gunn film will likely always be Super.
Absolutely agreed on Super being my favorite Gunn film, and it will probably never be passed.

Hard to imagine any Nolan film will pass The Dark Knight either, for me that movie just fires on all cylinders just right. Shows how effective Nolan can be when he isn't concerned about the crazy editing or reality bending concept that he is juggling throughout the film.

The Dark Knight and Joker are my favorite overall DC films.

For the DCEU it is EASILY the Snyder Trilogy(or rather, the first 3 parts of his 5 film sequence) that is Man of Steel, Dawn of Justice and Justice League.
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Chrispy_G wrote: Wed Apr 28, 2021 3:37 pm
Vakanai wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:01 pm As fun as The Suicide Squad looks, as fun as The Guardians of the Galaxy are, my favorite James Gunn film will likely always be Super.
Absolutely agreed on Super being my favorite Gunn film, and it will probably never be passed.

Hard to imagine any Nolan film will pass The Dark Knight either, for me that movie just fires on all cylinders just right. Shows how effective Nolan can be when he isn't concerned about the crazy editing or reality bending concept that he is juggling throughout the film.

The Dark Knight and Joker are my favorite overall DC films.

For the DCEU it is EASILY the Snyder Trilogy(or rather, the first 3 parts of his 5 film sequence) that is Man of Steel, Dawn of Justice and Justice League.
The Dark Knight and Joker are my favorite DC films too. I'm hoping I get to add The Batman to that list next year.

For the DCEU I'd have to say my favorite film is the first Wonder Woman. I like the Snyder films all right, they just don't quite resonate with me as much. I love the Batman stuff in BvS and JL, but just can't quite like his take on Superman (who is just behind Superman these days as my favorite superhero). So while I like the themes of the films, the overall experience is too mixed for me. That said, the batmobile chase and the warehouse fight in BvS is some of the best superhero action of all time. Although I think overall his cut of JL is the best of his 3 DCEU movies.
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Weirdly, we may be getting a Joker 2 after all. It's not been announced yet, but according to a recent THR article it's listed as something WB is planning on.
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I honestly am not sure where a Joker 2 could go, plot-wise. I guess it would turn into a Batman vs Joker story, but what would make it unique? Would Joker have a lot more supporters in this universe due to the events of the first film, would he go into full gangster-mobster Joker?
It's rife with potential, but also feels hard to follow up on.
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CyberZilla wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 9:26 pm I honestly am not sure where a Joker 2 could go, plot-wise. I guess it would turn into a Batman vs Joker story, but what would make it unique? Would Joker have a lot more supporters in this universe due to the events of the first film, would he go into full gangster-mobster Joker?
It's rife with potential, but also feels hard to follow up on.
I think they might surprise us and not go with a Batman vs Joker story for a second outing. And I think if it's possible to follow up on it satisfactorily Phillips and Phoenix are up to the task.
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