The MonsterVerse is continuing according to Max Borenstein

[Terasawa]

"The plot was easy to follow" is not the same thing as "poorly written film," though.

Poorly written is subjective.

I didn't say it wasn't.

[Rando Yaguchi]

Poorly written is subjective.

Not entirely.

[Vakanai]

Godzilla vs Kong is the only one people would be justified in saying through away plot for spectacle.

That's what I said though? The first three had effort in the storytelling, even if it didn't always come out the best (KotM). But GvK? Oof...

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"The plot was easy to follow" is not the same thing as "poorly written film," though.

This is true. But not a defense I would make for the latest MV flick.

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Poorly written is subjective.

Not entirely.

Definitely not entirely. I've...read things. Objectively poorly written things...horrible things...the grammatical errors, the typos, the incoherent plots and romantic pairings...good god man the incoherent crack pairings!

[DynomikeGojira]

I think we can all agree that the MonsterVerse needs new and fresh writers and is coming from someone who actually enjoyed Godzilla vs Kong and loved Jia because she didn't have dialogue to bring her down like the others.

[Bluezilla]

We may find out something this week. WB presentation at Cinemacon is Tuesday evening. Will probably focus on the DC films and maybe Dune but might get a tidbit on the continuance of the MV either film or HBOMAX show. I don’t have my hopes up but it’s a possibility.

[Cookson]

Maybe, but the way movies are getting delayed and pushed back we’ll have a clog full of movies for the next 2-3 years. If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming… because boys and gals… movies being talked about for the last 5 years still are not out yet. It’s wild.

They could always go the hbo Max way as well

[Pkmatrix]

Maybe, but the way movies are getting delayed and pushed back we’ll have a clog full of movies for the next 2-3 years. If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming… because boys and gals… movies being talked about for the last 5 years still are not out yet. It’s wild.

They could always go the hbo Max way as well

Going for a purely HBO Max release is very likely considering the way everything is going.

GvK came out at just about the best possible time, the short blip where it looked like the box office might recover and theaters may survive after all. Now it looks like that period was simply a mirage and that theaters, at least in North America, are doomed after all.

[Jacaijuzilladeava]

I just want a Destroy all Monsters film.

[Vakanai]

Maybe, but the way movies are getting delayed and pushed back we’ll have a clog full of movies for the next 2-3 years. If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming… because boys and gals… movies being talked about for the last 5 years still are not out yet. It’s wild.

They could always go the hbo Max way as well

Going for a purely HBO Max release is very likely considering the way everything is going.

GvK came out at just about the best possible time, the short blip where it looked like the box office might recover and theaters may survive after all. Now it looks like that period was simply a mirage and that theaters, at least in North America, are doomed after all.

A small scale show/mini-series I could see, but I don't think an HBO Max MV film is likely - streaming can't really justify the expense of that level of special effects. Needs a theatrical release otherwise the effects need to come down a lot in quality, screentime, and/or scope. They really need a theatrical release to justify such a budget.

[G1985]

If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming…

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

[miguelnuva]

If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming…

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

Their exploring a sale or merger and even if it happens they can still work on the MV.

[_JNavs_]

If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming…

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

Their exploring a sale or merger and even if it happens they can still work on the MV.

I can see it now, "Legendary Toho Pictures Presents: Godzilla 4"

[Vakanai]

If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming…

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

...don't. Don't you dare. Don't you dare get my hopes up.

[dillonking55]

If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming…

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

No renewing the license needed. Legendary has the license indefinitely as long as they keep making films.

https://variety.com/2019/film/asia/japa ... 92294/amp/

Also, waiting til 2027 for another installment would be dumb. GvK was a hit. Strike while the iron is hot & get one out around 2023-2024 or they risk having another KotM situation.

[miguelnuva]

My friend who is more in to Hollywood and how business works there told me Godzilla likely got renewed already since we haven't heard anything yet. They then mentioned remember how we knew Spiderman was done at Disney until Sony and Disney renegotiated.

The MV is almost like free money for Toho, the only they are missing out on that likely would have been changed in a new contract is the ability to make a live action film if they want.

My friend said they really feel like we'll have two Godzilla live action series going on eventually with Toho and Legendary simply making sure the movies co exist.

[Vakanai]

If they plan on getting another out they better announce it soon to lock in that date and begin filming…

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

No renewing the license needed. Legendary has the license indefinitely as long as they keep making films.

https://variety.com/2019/film/asia/japa ... 92294/amp/

...gosh darn it Toho, that's a terrible deal. Can't make your own movies while Legendary's doing them and can't even renegotiate the deal ever? Guess I'll be lucky if I get 1 live action Toho film per decade.

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My friend said they really feel like we'll have two Godzilla live action series going on eventually with Toho and Legendary simply making sure the movies co exist.

I wish, but I doubt it. If Legendary doesn't need to redo the deal as long as they keep making films, why would they make room for Toho to do their own films?

[miguelnuva]

That's a great point, and Legendary and Toho still need to arrive at a new licensing agreement (and on top of that, Legendary is up for sale IIRC) before any production dates can be set. I doubt we will see a new MV Godzilla movie before 2027.

No renewing the license needed. Legendary has the license indefinitely as long as they keep making films.

https://variety.com/2019/film/asia/japa ... 92294/amp/

...gosh darn it Toho, that's a terrible deal. Can't make your own movies while Legendary's doing them and can't even renegotiate the deal ever? Guess I'll be lucky if I get 1 live action Toho film per decade.

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My friend said they really feel like we'll have two Godzilla live action series going on eventually with Toho and Legendary simply making sure the movies co exist.

I wish, but I doubt it. If Legendary doesn't need to redo the deal as long as they keep making films, why would they make room for Toho to do their own films?

1. That is a great deal for Toho. The MV is free money for them and while Shin did much better in Japan Toho had to work for it. Aucks for fans that like Rewia Godzilla but not for Toho themselves.

2. I don't believe for a second Toho can't many any films period. They could be happy exploring anime but if Toho wants their baby their is no way they trusted Legendary enough to block themselves off completely. I fully believe Toho is doing something in 2024 even if we end up with two Godzilla films that year.

My money is on Kong is the next MV film, Toho will have a Godzilla film for the 70th anniversary.

Kong 2023
Toho Godzilla 2024
MV Godzilla 2024/5

[Vakanai]

No renewing the license needed. Legendary has the license indefinitely as long as they keep making films.

https://variety.com/2019/film/asia/japa ... 92294/amp/

...gosh darn it Toho, that's a terrible deal. Can't make your own movies while Legendary's doing them and can't even renegotiate the deal ever? Guess I'll be lucky if I get 1 live action Toho film per decade.

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My friend said they really feel like we'll have two Godzilla live action series going on eventually with Toho and Legendary simply making sure the movies co exist.

I wish, but I doubt it. If Legendary doesn't need to redo the deal as long as they keep making films, why would they make room for Toho to do their own films?

1. That is a great deal for Toho. The MV is free money for them and while Shin did much better in Japan Toho had to work for it. Aucks for fans that like Rewia Godzilla but not for Toho themselves.

2. I don't believe for a second Toho can't many any films period. They could be happy exploring anime but if Toho wants their baby their is no way they trusted Legendary enough to block themselves off completely. I fully believe Toho is doing something in 2024 even if we end up with two Godzilla films that year.

My money is on Kong is the next MV film, Toho will have a Godzilla film for the 70th anniversary.

Kong 2023
Toho Godzilla 2024
MV Godzilla 2024/5

1. Disagree. A good deal would've allowed them to still make their own movies when they want, there's no way around that.

2. They made the deal after having not done a Godzilla film for a decade. I can believe the executives at that time were foolish enough to not see the value in the ip and not thinking of when they might want to make Goji movies again. I can totally see them being unable to make a movie when they want because of Legendary's plans, anniversaries be damned.

[miguelnuva]

...gosh darn it Toho, that's a terrible deal. Can't make your own movies while Legendary's doing them and can't even renegotiate the deal ever? Guess I'll be lucky if I get 1 live action Toho film per decade.

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I wish, but I doubt it. If Legendary doesn't need to redo the deal as long as they keep making films, why would they make room for Toho to do their own films?

1. That is a great deal for Toho. The MV is free money for them and while Shin did much better in Japan Toho had to work for it. Aucks for fans that like Rewia Godzilla but not for Toho themselves.

2. I don't believe for a second Toho can't many any films period. They could be happy exploring anime but if Toho wants their baby their is no way they trusted Legendary enough to block themselves off completely. I fully believe Toho is doing something in 2024 even if we end up with two Godzilla films that year.

My money is on Kong is the next MV film, Toho will have a Godzilla film for the 70th anniversary.

Kong 2023
Toho Godzilla 2024
MV Godzilla 2024/5

1. Disagree. A good deal would've allowed them to still make their own movies when they want, there's no way around that.

2. They made the deal after having not done a Godzilla film for a decade. I can believe the executives at that time were foolish enough to not see the value in the ip and not thinking of when they might want to make Goji movies again. I can totally see them being unable to make a movie when they want because of Legendary's plans, anniversaries be damned.

They made Shin when they wanted and considering they talked about a friendly rivalry I doubt Legendary blocked them out. At worst I could see it being let us make a Gojira movie and we'll let you use Gigan, Angurius or Destroyah for a MV film.

I doubt Toho is completely out the love action game kf they wanted.

This franchise needs more entires lime Shin Godzilla as we do the kotm and GvsK.

[Vakanai]

1. That is a great deal for Toho. The MV is free money for them and while Shin did much better in Japan Toho had to work for it. Aucks for fans that like Rewia Godzilla but not for Toho themselves.

2. I don't believe for a second Toho can't many any films period. They could be happy exploring anime but if Toho wants their baby their is no way they trusted Legendary enough to block themselves off completely. I fully believe Toho is doing something in 2024 even if we end up with two Godzilla films that year.

My money is on Kong is the next MV film, Toho will have a Godzilla film for the 70th anniversary.

Kong 2023
Toho Godzilla 2024
MV Godzilla 2024/5

1. Disagree. A good deal would've allowed them to still make their own movies when they want, there's no way around that.

2. They made the deal after having not done a Godzilla film for a decade. I can believe the executives at that time were foolish enough to not see the value in the ip and not thinking of when they might want to make Goji movies again. I can totally see them being unable to make a movie when they want because of Legendary's plans, anniversaries be damned.

They made Shin when they wanted and considering they talked about a friendly rivalry I doubt Legendary blocked them out. At worst I could see it being let us make a Gojira movie and we'll let you use Gigan, Angurius or Destroyah for a MV film.

I doubt Toho is completely out the love action game kf they wanted.

This franchise needs more entires lime Shin Godzilla as we do the kotm and GvsK.

Except that they didn't - they made Shin because there was a 5 year window between 2014 and KotM where Legendary wasn't working on it so Toho had an opportunity. Basically to get another Toho live action Godzilla film we'd need another such long lull period from Legendary. And I honestly don't see that happening,