KingKaiju wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 7:28 pm
I never understood this notion that, because these films are popcorn movies, we suddenly have to throw away all expectation for any kind of substance. I don't think anyone walked into these films expecting The Godfather, or even Shin Godzilla. But the idea that people who criticize these films are "snobby" or "elitist" for wanting a better film is just ridiculous. I also love the inconsistencies too. The same critics who gave positive reviews to 2014 and KSI were fine... Until they criticized KOTM. But they're okay again, because they mostly liked GvK. However, prior to that, it was "this film is going to be ruined by the snobby critics!" Which also tells me that people really don't pay attention to who or what a critic is or can be. It's okay to like a movie, it's okay to even like a movie that most people hate. But this notion that it was meant to be a dumb movie, therefore we can't have any kind of standard, is dumb. That's been the biggest difference between the MCU and DCEU. All in all, they're all pretty ridiculous films. People dressed in superhero costumes fighting aliens and saving the world. But one series has been able to throw all that in, keep it fun, while giving us interesting films and characters, while the other has dropped the ball at almost every turn.
This wasn't my point at all. It was that because it's specifically Godzilla vs Kong, it doesn't necessarily need substance, it just needs to deliver on the title premise.
I'm gonna try my best to summarize my thoughts on the fanbase' obsession with substance in G Movies.
Though ANY other movie should have substance, I'm of the opinion that a concept like Godzilla vs Kong, doesn't need it. A movie concept like Destroy All Monsters however, does. There's a fine line between just big dumb movie and big movie that needs a compelling human story because of the title.
With a potential Destroy All Monsters, you expect some really big developments in the human story that particular movie to drive the plot and characters for their motivations to Destroy All Monsters. With Godzilla vs Kong- the name already gives away what the focus is, the two biggest Titans in cinema history clashing to decide who's King. The human story will only ever be there to serve THEM and get them where they need to be. It's not as prevalent as say DAM where the title promises a lot of action but also a prominent human element for a movie talking about the eradication of Titans(clearly from a Human's pov, since they are monsters in our eyes).
My stance is, substance isn't always needed. There's some movies that just don't need the classic Showa touch(over the top action but a really good human element). There's not always gonna be some hidden message to tell in a story or Godzilla movie. I just wish the fanbase accepted that already. What substance we needed, we got with the Kong scenes. Kong was literally the anchor for us, and he pulled it off
spectacularly. I'm sure if someone took the time they could find a way to write GvK in a way where it could be filled with substance, but I can guarantee they'd be hard pressed to do it in a way that doesn't make the film's pacing be slower and make the humans feel like filler to pad out the runtime. I could do this(I literally am, tbf, I write fanfics sometimes and am currently writing my own version of the Monsterverse and making it spiritually driven), but it isn't necessary, unlike it is in, again, a theoretical Destroy All Monsters.
I don't like critics, never have, never will. It's a dead art, because they don't criticize anymore. Just spew bad takes full of bitterness or shill out for certain productions. I only look at their ratings as "are they gonna fuck us over this time as well?"
As for the elitism and snobs, I think youd be surprised how prevalent it is in the community. Specificaly the Twitter and Discord part of it with the YouTubers residing there. There's a really good reason GojiFan1993 left, aside from his personal life, he saw this fanbase heading down this direction years ago.
It really doesn't seem like anyone genuinely enjoys anything anymore, from my pov. It saddens me greatly, I still have childlike joy whenever I see new Godzilla media. And for god's sake, I'm 23! Lol
Have I said that I'd like a Destroy All Monsters, because I want a Destroy All Monsters lol. I want a good one to end the MV in say, 5 or so movies if it manages that long.
Good heavens I just realized how long this was, this is what happens when you're supercharged on caffeine and can't sleep at 4:44 in the morning
