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I don't how it looks in the movie...but if there's ever a final MV Godzilla movie I'd like to see Fire Godzilla again but this time the wings are always on him like say this.
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Not enough to fly of course but hey extra limbs.
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daveblackeye15 wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:28 pm I don't how it looks in the movie...but if there's ever a final MV Godzilla movie I'd like to see Fire Godzilla again but this time the wings are always on him like say this.
https://i0.wp.com/media.criticalhit.net ... illa-3.jpg

Not enough to fly of course but hey extra limbs.
that's skreeonkin WACK and I doubt it'll ever happen

though it does look pretty cool
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Here's to hoping the bring back Rodan. Did he just go back to sleep? Like what's the kid doing? Seemed like that stab from Mothra didn't do any lasting damage from the way he was ready to go in the end.

Does Dominion reference?

And the Mothra lady. They just completely ignore the fact this woman has a connection to an immortal kaiju inverse and I can't except that.
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Some of my past comments on this film were ignorant to a degree of absurdity. I've come to really enjoy this film, including the score.
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I was listening to some of the score last night. I remember saying this here before the film came out, when the score was released prior. The Mothra and Godzilla themes really almost brought tears to my eyes. The fact that beautiful renditions of these themes are in a big budget modern film is really something. While I do think the use of the themes, along with the Toho Godzilla roars in the film, feel sort of cheap or out of place, there’s no denying that the score is awesome.

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I didn't like the use of Showa roars either, they clash with the roar they gave him in 2014. glad they didn't do that in GvK.
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ClandestineCanine9 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:42 pm I didn't like the use of Showa roars either, they clash with the roar they gave him in 2014. glad they didn't do that in GvK.
I definitely agree with that. As much as I like Showa homages, I was rewatching the movie and it stuck out to me especially when Godzilla makes his entrance in Boston.

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göblin wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:31 am
ClandestineCanine9 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:42 pm I didn't like the use of Showa roars either, they clash with the roar they gave him in 2014. glad they didn't do that in GvK.
I definitely agree with that. As much as I like Showa homages, I was rewatching the movie and it stuck out to me especially when Godzilla makes his entrance in Boston.
that's the one. I hated that.
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This is much more enjoyable after giving it a break after the initial 2-3 watches. There is more plot to it than Godzilla vs Kong but not as much as Godzilla. It really does the best of the three to allow the monsters time to breathe when they are on screen alone.

Things that I believe would most definitely improve it:

- not killing of Graham (generally King Ghidorah should not be concerning himself with individuals)
- eliminating Stanton/Coleman - this would probably allow better dialogue and exposition regarding Ghidorah, Mothra + Godzilla, and others
- build up the Oxygen Destroyer in the first act and show the aftermath in a similar light as the atomic bomb
- eliminating the particle effects and filters over every scene and give the fights the same breathing room as the solo appearances
- add a sequence of King Ghidorah laying waste to cities
- I think a lot of the callbacks/references to Showa/Hesei are too hamfisted compared to Godzilla and GvK
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Spydrmanjr wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:29 pm (generally King Ghidorah should not be concerning himself with individuals)
I never really understood the train of thought that suggested Kotm Ghidorah killing individual people implied he was the most sinister and minicanal the character has ever been. For me all it does is harken back to that one prick in every elementary school who liked to squish ants. I mean yeah sure he was kind of an ass for doing it, but I wouldn't call him literal Satan.
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Jetty_Jags wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:46 pm I never really understood the train of thought that suggested Kotm Ghidorah killing individual people implied he was the most sinister and minicanal the character has ever been. For me all it does is harken back to that one prick in every elementary school who liked to squish ants. I mean yeah sure he was kind of an ass for doing it, but I wouldn't call him literal Satan.
Agreed, it was just unnecessary. King Ghidorah is over 500 feet tall, the average human is about 1/100th his size. It just made no sense for him to single out any human or "eat" any human.

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Jetty_Jags wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:46 pm I never really understood the train of thought that suggested Kotm Ghidorah killing individual people implied he was the most sinister and minicanal the character has ever been. For me all it does is harken back to that one prick in every elementary school who liked to squish ants. I mean yeah sure he was kind of an ass for doing it, but I wouldn't call him literal Satan.
I always took it for that to be a contrast to the other Titans we'd seen (which admittedly wasn't many as of KOTM) such as Godzilla or the MUTOS, neither of which intentionally went out of their way to attack humans - let alone individuals. They're just part of the ecosystem.

By contrast Ghidorah did, and enjoyed it.

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I think attacking humans directly and unprovoked is what should separate Ghidorah from the rest but the singling out ants is kinda silly given the grand nature of Titans.

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I haven’t enjoyed being on here since ‘14. Just wanted to put my opinion out there that Gareth did a masterpiece on that film. I loved how original it was.

I was 14 at the time, I was so prepared for more of what was given. That roar man, they made it so loud there. ‘19 and ‘21 did no justice whatsoever. Maybe cool visuals here and there... but I was so disappointed.

I really want more of ‘14 Godzilla (I know we won’t get), and more of those ways Gareth and that sound guy recreated his roar. Also, release the damn digital 4K already, brighten my guy up. They SLAUGHTERED him in my opinion after I left that IMAX theater. Thank God I saw it 15 times lol.
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Spydrmanjr wrote: Mon Apr 12, 2021 4:00 am
Jetty_Jags wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:46 pm I never really understood the train of thought that suggested Kotm Ghidorah killing individual people implied he was the most sinister and minicanal the character has ever been. For me all it does is harken back to that one prick in every elementary school who liked to squish ants. I mean yeah sure he was kind of an ass for doing it, but I wouldn't call him literal Satan.
Agreed, it was just unnecessary. King Ghidorah is over 500 feet tall, the average human is about 1/100th his size. It just made no sense for him to single out any human or "eat" any human.
I kind of saw that as KG just waking up and just...interacting with the world for the first time in many, many years. Almost how infants learn about the world through their various senses. Plus KG is very aggressive. It saw something perhaps novel to it...and decided to attack it.
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Is it reasonable to assume KG has a sense similar to Godzilla and knows people who would be a key point to his survival? For example Madison, he aimed at her. Is it possible he knows the two had some sort of connection.
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Spydrmanjr wrote: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:29 pm - eliminating Stanton/Coleman - this would probably allow better dialogue and exposition regarding Ghidorah, Mothra + Godzilla, and others
I feel like Coleman and Stanton could've been one character, then it would've been a matter of choosing which elements of the character to highlight. Between the two, I feel like Coleman was a bit more justified as a personality because he was the science guy.

Stanton was almost a ringside commentator that gave you a play-by-play on the action, but didn't really have an actual function the story outside that comedic relief. Coleman was originally supposed to be one of Mark's friends (IIRC), so maybe an actual dynamic between the two might've elevated him above meek science guy.

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Agreed, potentially combining into one character may have streamlined dialogue and allowed a better insight into another Monarch role.

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I'm trying to think of some of the cracks from Rick that didn't bother me. I think it's more the ones that are a little off-hand.

"Hope you got a big wrench."
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I did like that he and Chen had something of a sibling-like relationship.

I mean he's no where NEAR the level of a Michael Bay character that's for damn sure. Sure Sam had the infamous Gonorrhea line but I didn't mind him much either.

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Your Boy Leroy wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:39 pm I was listening to some of the score last night. I remember saying this here before the film came out, when the score was released prior. The Mothra and Godzilla themes really almost brought tears to my eyes. The fact that beautiful renditions of these themes are in a big budget modern film is really something.
Same, every time I listen to it I feel...I don't know, proud? that these classic themes I've listened to for decades are actually in a modern version. Makes me almost choke up a little sometimes.

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