I had this theory myself.Cryptid_Liker wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:46 pm When he was woken up by the ORCA, Rodan wasn't fully grown. When he's an adult, he'll be around the same size as Godzilla.
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Their the same age group. Both are adults in their species. Rodan has been around long enough to be an Alpha Titan and was one of only 3 Titans to face off with Ghidorah.Thatguy4683 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:14 pmThat doesn’t mean that they are the same age, Godzilla could have been born A couple millions of years before Rodan was when they fought King Ghidorah together. Even then we don’t know if that was the same Rodan in KotMmiguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:32 pmKotm has a painting that shows Rodan fought Ghidorah alongside Mothra and Godzilla in the past.Thatguy4683 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:53 pm Maybe The volcano In Isla de Mara didn’t have a lot of Radiation to make him massive so that’s why he was 47 meter in KotM, Rodan is currently hibernating in Mt. Fuji which has a lot more radiation to make him bigger like 60-96 Meters
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Yeah I was wondering about that too. How do you know this? If there is a source about this can you link it to us?
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I didn’t really thought about that, thank you for bringing me attention to this. But there are no evidence of this being the same Rodanmiguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pmTheir the same age group. Both are adults in their species. Rodan has been around long enough to be an Alpha Titan and was one of only 3 Titans to face off with Ghidorah.Thatguy4683 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:14 pmThat doesn’t mean that they are the same age, Godzilla could have been born A couple millions of years before Rodan was when they fought King Ghidorah together. Even then we don’t know if that was the same Rodan in KotMmiguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:32 pm
Kotm has a painting that shows Rodan fought Ghidorah alongside Mothra and Godzilla in the past.
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Dougherty mentioned that Rodan's origins were his parents nesting in that volcano, meaning Rodan most likely did not see the light of day until his debut in KOTM. The Rodan in that painting is much larger and with Dougherty mentioning Rodan's origins, it's very likely that the Rodan we see in KOTM is NOT the same Rodan we see in that cave painting.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pmTheir the same age group. Both are adults in their species. Rodan has been around long enough to be an Alpha Titan and was one of only 3 Titans to face off with Ghidorah.Thatguy4683 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:14 pmThat doesn’t mean that they are the same age, Godzilla could have been born A couple millions of years before Rodan was when they fought King Ghidorah together. Even then we don’t know if that was the same Rodan in KotMmiguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:32 pm
Kotm has a painting that shows Rodan fought Ghidorah alongside Mothra and Godzilla in the past.
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His parents had him there and he ventured out the nest a couple of times.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:30 pmDougherty mentioned that Rodan's origins were his parents nesting in that volcano, meaning Rodan most likely did not see the light of day until his debut in KOTM. The Rodan in that painting is much larger and with Dougherty mentioning Rodan's origins, it's very likely that the Rodan we see in KOTM is NOT the same Rodan we see in that cave painting.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pmTheir the same age group. Both are adults in their species. Rodan has been around long enough to be an Alpha Titan and was one of only 3 Titans to face off with Ghidorah.Thatguy4683 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:14 pm
That doesn’t mean that they are the same age, Godzilla could have been born A couple millions of years before Rodan was when they fought King Ghidorah together. Even then we don’t know if that was the same Rodan in KotM
Unless Dougherty states otherwise the movie and the supplemental material implies Rodan was traveling around in the past.
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Right, but what supplemental materials suggest this other than the cave painting which can arguably be another Rodan?miguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:37 pmHis parents had him there and he ventured out the nest a couple of times.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:30 pmDougherty mentioned that Rodan's origins were his parents nesting in that volcano, meaning Rodan most likely did not see the light of day until his debut in KOTM. The Rodan in that painting is much larger and with Dougherty mentioning Rodan's origins, it's very likely that the Rodan we see in KOTM is NOT the same Rodan we see in that cave painting.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:12 pm
Their the same age group. Both are adults in their species. Rodan has been around long enough to be an Alpha Titan and was one of only 3 Titans to face off with Ghidorah.
Unless Dougherty states otherwise the movie and the supplemental material implies Rodan was traveling around in the past.
Also for the hieroglyphic point; We've seen Kong in a cave painting and that wasn't the same Kong we saw in 2021. Same could even be said for Mothra!
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We know it isn't Kong because we saw Kong being born. Mothra is reincarnation so while the body is new the memories and the abilities are the same.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:55 amRight, but what supplemental materials suggest this other than the cave painting which can arguably be another Rodan?miguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:37 pmHis parents had him there and he ventured out the nest a couple of times.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:30 pm
Dougherty mentioned that Rodan's origins were his parents nesting in that volcano, meaning Rodan most likely did not see the light of day until his debut in KOTM. The Rodan in that painting is much larger and with Dougherty mentioning Rodan's origins, it's very likely that the Rodan we see in KOTM is NOT the same Rodan we see in that cave painting.
Unless Dougherty states otherwise the movie and the supplemental material implies Rodan was traveling around in the past.
Also for the hieroglyphic point; We've seen Kong in a cave painting and that wasn't the same Kong we saw in 2021. Same could even be said for Mothra!
Ghidorah going to take care of Rodan and Rodan being one of the only Titans as well as having legends behind him all imply he's been around before.
The Toho kaiju are likely all around a similar age group.
That or child Rodan is on a level similar to Adult Kong and Adult Mothra according to monarch and kotm.
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Ghidorah was headed to the volcano to regain energy and perform his alpha call for the mass awakening, Rodan was just in the way. Rodan isn't one of the only titans, and Rodan having legends behind him is the same as the Godzillas and Kongs all having legends behind them.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:23 pmWe know it isn't Kong because we saw Kong being born. Mothra is reincarnation so while the body is new the memories and the abilities are the same.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:55 amRight, but what supplemental materials suggest this other than the cave painting which can arguably be another Rodan?miguelnuva wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:37 pm
His parents had him there and he ventured out the nest a couple of times.
Unless Dougherty states otherwise the movie and the supplemental material implies Rodan was traveling around in the past.
Also for the hieroglyphic point; We've seen Kong in a cave painting and that wasn't the same Kong we saw in 2021. Same could even be said for Mothra!
Ghidorah going to take care of Rodan and Rodan being one of the only Titans as well as having legends behind him all imply he's been around before.
The Toho kaiju are likely all around a similar age group.
That or child Rodan is on a level similar to Adult Kong and Adult Mothra according to monarch and kotm.
Mothra could definitely be reincarnation, but I doubt she is the ONLY member of her species. Or maybe she is a unique species only living through reincarnation, who knows. But that isn't the case with Rodan, and if Dougherty's own mentioning of Rodan's origins are anything to go by (in addition to the larger Rodan seen in the hieroglyphs), than a lot more points to Rodan being young and not the same as the one in the painting.
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Rodan is not necessarily larger in the hieroglyphs. That could be ab exaggeration on the part of the artist. Its the same way Mothra and Godzilla as well as Ghidorah look different in their paintings as well. Ghidorah also only does the Alpha Call once Rodan and Godzilla go down, he needed to take out the other Alphas first, Godzilla later does his own Alpha call at little to no energy.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 3:43 pmGhidorah was headed to the volcano to regain energy and perform his alpha call for the mass awakening, Rodan was just in the way. Rodan isn't one of the only titans, and Rodan having legends behind him is the same as the Godzillas and Kongs all having legends behind them.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:23 pmWe know it isn't Kong because we saw Kong being born. Mothra is reincarnation so while the body is new the memories and the abilities are the same.KingKong2005 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:55 am
Right, but what supplemental materials suggest this other than the cave painting which can arguably be another Rodan?
Also for the hieroglyphic point; We've seen Kong in a cave painting and that wasn't the same Kong we saw in 2021. Same could even be said for Mothra!
Ghidorah going to take care of Rodan and Rodan being one of the only Titans as well as having legends behind him all imply he's been around before.
The Toho kaiju are likely all around a similar age group.
That or child Rodan is on a level similar to Adult Kong and Adult Mothra according to monarch and kotm.
Mothra could definitely be reincarnation, but I doubt she is the ONLY member of her species. Or maybe she is a unique species only living through reincarnation, who knows. But that isn't the case with Rodan, and if Dougherty's own mentioning of Rodan's origins are anything to go by (in addition to the larger Rodan seen in the hieroglyphs), than a lot more points to Rodan being young and not the same as the one in the painting.
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Aside from Mechagodzilla, Apex had plans for a Mechani-Kong among other mecha, but they were soon exposed and brought to light in the wake of the Hong Kong battle.
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-Godzilla is an ancient stem-mammal, related to Dimetrodon, that convergently evolved crocodilian features.
-The MUTOs originate from a whole new order that split off from arthropods earlier than vertebrates did- they convergently evolved a cartilaginous backbone and all have six limbs.
-Rodan evolved from a species of Pteranodontid which evolved to fly around in the hollow earth and benefitted from a diet very high in Carbon. Over millenia, they became more and more resistant to the heat and radiation, to the point that they could live in stasis like a water bear as long as they were submerged in something very hot, like lava.
-Methuselah evolved from the Triassic animal Desmatosuchus.
-Tiamat developed from seagoing crocodilians in the Jurassic, convergently adapting the snake's body plan.
-Amhuluk is a colonial organism that feeds on the dead plant matter that it integrates into itself.
-Almost everything on Skull Island is a smaller, insular dwarf species of things that live in the Hollow Earth.
-Kong is an Island Giant who grew so large because he had all of Skull Island's resources to himself.
-Skull Island's ecosystem is still surviving. I hate how they killed it off in Godzilla vs Kong.
-The MUTOs originate from a whole new order that split off from arthropods earlier than vertebrates did- they convergently evolved a cartilaginous backbone and all have six limbs.
-Rodan evolved from a species of Pteranodontid which evolved to fly around in the hollow earth and benefitted from a diet very high in Carbon. Over millenia, they became more and more resistant to the heat and radiation, to the point that they could live in stasis like a water bear as long as they were submerged in something very hot, like lava.
-Methuselah evolved from the Triassic animal Desmatosuchus.
-Tiamat developed from seagoing crocodilians in the Jurassic, convergently adapting the snake's body plan.
-Amhuluk is a colonial organism that feeds on the dead plant matter that it integrates into itself.
-Almost everything on Skull Island is a smaller, insular dwarf species of things that live in the Hollow Earth.
-Kong is an Island Giant who grew so large because he had all of Skull Island's resources to himself.
-Skull Island's ecosystem is still surviving. I hate how they killed it off in Godzilla vs Kong.
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On top of the battle axes, the ancient Kongs also made shields and hammer-clubs out of the backs and tails of Anguiruses. (Anguiri?)
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Recently I am making my own Head Canon that ties the Titans with more mythical themes or motifs. However, somehow I had several difficulties.
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In many myths or legends, the realm of gods are often located in the sky or on the mountains. What could be the possible basis of such myth?
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In KoTM, some deities and mythical creatures with human traits were depicted along with Titans. Such as the Anunnaki and Godzilla, as well as Apkallus and Rodan. The Mural of Mothra also has beings with animal heads. What could be the true identities of these deities or beings?
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In many myths or legends, the realm of gods are often located in the sky or on the mountains. What could be the possible basis of such myth?
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In KoTM, some deities and mythical creatures with human traits were depicted along with Titans. Such as the Anunnaki and Godzilla, as well as Apkallus and Rodan. The Mural of Mothra also has beings with animal heads. What could be the true identities of these deities or beings?
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When I first saw her onscreen, my mental response was, "It's Byatis the Snake-Bearded!!!"SonOfGorgo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:56 pm Scylla herself served something of an inspiration for many of Lovecraft's tales.
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Mothra still has the pollen in the MonsterVerse, however like the Showa and S.O.S incarnations, using it destroys her wings and is a last resort, which is why it didn't come up in KOTM.
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KOTM was the very definition of last resort though.SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:24 pm Mothra still has the pollen in the MonsterVerse, however like the Showa and S.O.S incarnations, using it destroys her wings and is a last resort, which is why it didn't come up in KOTM.
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THIS! Unless stated otherwise, I believe Skull Island's eco-system may have found ways to survive by swimming out or migrating into Hollow Earth, or the island will just recover one day and still be visited on occasion by Kong.TheRealSpinoRex wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:29 pm -Skull Island's ecosystem is still surviving. I hate how they killed it off in Godzilla vs Kong.
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Or they spread out to neighboring areas. Like the leafwings in KOTMAllosaurHell wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:03 pmTHIS! Unless stated otherwise, I believe Skull Island's eco-system may have found ways to survive by swimming out or migrating into Hollow Earth, or the island will just recover one day and still be visited on occasion by Kong.TheRealSpinoRex wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:29 pm -Skull Island's ecosystem is still surviving. I hate how they killed it off in Godzilla vs Kong.
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Imagine zoos getting a hold of Skull Island fauna...imposterzilla wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:19 pmOr they spread out to neighboring areas. Like the leafwings in KOTMAllosaurHell wrote: ↑Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:03 pmTHIS! Unless stated otherwise, I believe Skull Island's eco-system may have found ways to survive by swimming out or migrating into Hollow Earth, or the island will just recover one day and still be visited on occasion by Kong.TheRealSpinoRex wrote: ↑Sat Sep 25, 2021 2:29 pm -Skull Island's ecosystem is still surviving. I hate how they killed it off in Godzilla vs Kong.
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