Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
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I think thwe power blast is stronger than the blue beam breath so when Ghidorah got hit it was worse than the battle.
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Re: Something in GvKG I Realized
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/856/img0308c.jpgTamura wrote:Pics or it didn't happen.Kaiju-King42 wrote:On the same subject, has anyone else noticed the door sign in the same movie that reads: Super Scientific Play-Room? I thought i was imagining things when I first saw it last night.
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Re: Something in GvKG I Realized
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
Seriously, that is funny. I'd expect that in a Showa Gamera film, but '90's Godzilla??
Seriously, that is funny. I'd expect that in a Showa Gamera film, but '90's Godzilla??
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Even scientist need to have fun once in a while.
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You could take the multiverse theory even farther than that, but things would eventually get ridiculous. An Earth without oxygen is plausible, though. If microbes hadn't produced it as a waste product and saturated the atmosphere, we'd be breathing something else.
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LOL, thanx! I knew you weren't lying, I'm just playing on the fact that sometimes this fandom is full of talk with little visual proof to add to the discussion. How long did it take for the Brad Pitt WOTG reflection to show up on YouTube, again? It's not that big a deal, but still... I want my John Belushi in a Godzilla suit!Kaiju-King42 wrote:http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/856/img0308c.jpgTamura wrote:Pics or it didn't happen.Kaiju-King42 wrote:On the same subject, has anyone else noticed the door sign in the same movie that reads: Super Scientific Play-Room? I thought i was imagining things when I first saw it last night.
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Your all wrong. In the movie the new Godzilla is made of modern nuclear weapons, and that's why he is bigger & stronger and can blow the crap out of KG.
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Re: Something in GvKG I Realized
No.antovald20 wrote:Your all wrong. In the movie the new Godzilla is made of modern nuclear weapons, and that's why he is bigger & stronger and can blow the crap out of KG.
No.
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Oops. I haven't seen GvsKG in a looooog time. For some reason i thought godzilla fought King Ghidorah twice.
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^I know i know, i thought that G fought KG twice then MKG. Oh! And thanks for not destroying me, for forgetting that.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
He was my least favorite version, but i did like the sound that he made.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
I liked how he looks but he didn't feel as threatening than in his original appearance.
Not sure if for these types of things we can't bring up second forms but MKG is awesome and I'm sad we'll probably never see him again. By far one of the most out there upgrades and changes to Godzilla continuity.
Not sure if for these types of things we can't bring up second forms but MKG is awesome and I'm sad we'll probably never see him again. By far one of the most out there upgrades and changes to Godzilla continuity.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
I have to agree MKG was the best version of King Ghidorah, but he walked too slow.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
G-FAN#108 had a rather cool article, story entitled KING GHIDORAH AT 50 !!! written by German G-Fan , Florian Bahr. It went into all of the King of Terror's movie ,and television appearance, and little bit of the screen origins of King Ghidorah in his Heisei Era debut. Godzilla producer, Tomoyuki Tanaka, original idea for the for the origins of the creatures that made up the Ghidorah, the Dorats, was that they were engineered from the DNA of the body of the real King Ghidorah. Whose remains were supposed to be discovered on the surface of Venus I the 23rd Century at the flick's beginning. Then cell samples were collected, and from those samples the Dorats were collected. But the flick's director, Kazuki Omori, thought Ghidorah's space based origins were a little too out there, and just went with the more "sensible" created from the fusion of the Dorats from nuclear testing. Tanaka was planning to use his original idea for the Dorats' genesis as the basis of his originally planned follow up to GODZILLA Vs. KING GHIDORAH, The Return of King Ghidorah. In which the original, real King Ghidorah comes down from space, lays siege to the planet ,and has the inevitable throw down with the Big-G.
One thing that I like about King Ghidorah, even cut off from the control of his Futrian masters, still is quite a challenge to Godzilla. As we saw the slimmer necked Ghidorah darn near strangled the life out of Godzilla. Until the Big-G pulled out his back up plan of his Nuclear Pulse which injured King Ghidorah's center neck enough to deliver the coup de grace of finally severing King Ghidorah's head with his oral beam.
One thing that I like about King Ghidorah, even cut off from the control of his Futrian masters, still is quite a challenge to Godzilla. As we saw the slimmer necked Ghidorah darn near strangled the life out of Godzilla. Until the Big-G pulled out his back up plan of his Nuclear Pulse which injured King Ghidorah's center neck enough to deliver the coup de grace of finally severing King Ghidorah's head with his oral beam.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
So I decided to watch this gem the other night as I have not seen a Godzilla movie since G14. A little background on this film for me, this is the first film that introduced me to the Heisei era. I remember being at a Wherehouse video (anyone remember those?) and seeing “Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah” on VHS. There was some shiny new box art, KG and Godzilla had nice looking updated looks. I assumed they had just repackaged and renamed “Ghidrah The Three Headed Monster” into this video. After doing some investigating and reading the box, I realized this was in fact a BRAND NEW movie I had never seen before. Like any Godzilla fan at the time I lost my shit and made my mom purchase it for me (I was only 13 or 14 at the time, so $ was in short supply).
This movie was confusing when I was a young teen and it’s still confusing as an adult. All the plot holes and wonky time travel mechanics have been discussed in great length so I won’t get into them. Here are my top 5 moments:
1. Godzilla blowing away Shindo. Like many I did not see that coming. I like when Godzilla is the bad guy and this solidified to me that this new 100 meter beast was taking no prisoners.
2. Final fight with MKG. For me this battle basically showed how powerful
Godzilla has become. Even with MKG using every last trick in the book Godzilla still survives the battle and must be dropped into the sea again.
3. First fight with KG. I loved the brutality of it. Godzilla almost being strangled to death, KG’s head being blown off, KG stomping on Godzilla’s face.
4. Godzilla coming ashore at Hokkaido. Very excited to get the X-Plus figure coming out soon.
5. Kenji Sahara!!
Top 5 worst moments:
1. M-11 “running/skiing/skating” scene. Oh boy. I asked (forced) my fiancé to watch this movie with me so I could get an outsiders perspective since I view these films with a bias perspective. This scene started an uncontrollable laughter from her that didn’t abate for a good 2 minutes. I know you are supposed to suspend logic in these movies but if M-11 is that fast why does he even need a car? I realized at this point in the movie I needed to stop rationalizing things and just sit back and enjoy.
2. All the 1944 American soldier scenes were so bad. Terrible actors, even worse dialogue. I know we shouldn’t expect much from these guys but all the western actors in the Heisei films were horrible. Showa counterparts were much more believable.
3. KG not being a space monster. I did not like the Dorats origin. As I’m sure many others didn’t.
4. “Can it be true? Would Godzilla do that to us?” Really?
5. One thing that did bug me is the noticeable difference between the Godzilla suit and either the head puppet or whatever they used for the close up shots. Godzilla looked drunk in some of the close up shots. I know this has happened all throughout the series but it bothered me.
A few more takeaways-
Toho really knows how to do a title card scene. Seeing Godzilla and KG about to face off really got me excited for this movie. Which was somewhat disappointing since we wouldn’t see Godzilla in action for another hour.
I wish we had been told how the Godzillasaurus had survived for millions of years.
I love the continuity in the Heisei films. I know these movies have a lot of
flaws but I like how the story spanned 7 films. I love how this movie acknowledges that Godzilla was basically stopped by the anti-nuclear bacteria from Biollante but of course that all changed.
So much head nodding in this movie.
1:19:01- Not so fast you.
The shots of Godzilla in Sapporo remind me of Ed G’s The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Godzilla. I believe the shot of him in the city next to the tower is the cover of the book.
KG’s and MKG’s wings are just not Godzilla proof.
Why did Wilson and Co bring Emmy along if she was a distant relative of Teresawa? Didn’t they know that made her a liability and stood a pretty good chance of feeling sympathy for Japan and her distant family?
Fun movie, but a little overrated IMO. I rank it 4th in the Heisei series.
So I decided to watch this gem the other night as I have not seen a Godzilla movie since G14. A little background on this film for me, this is the first film that introduced me to the Heisei era. I remember being at a Wherehouse video (anyone remember those?) and seeing “Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah” on VHS. There was some shiny new box art, KG and Godzilla had nice looking updated looks. I assumed they had just repackaged and renamed “Ghidrah The Three Headed Monster” into this video. After doing some investigating and reading the box, I realized this was in fact a BRAND NEW movie I had never seen before. Like any Godzilla fan at the time I lost my shit and made my mom purchase it for me (I was only 13 or 14 at the time, so $ was in short supply).
This movie was confusing when I was a young teen and it’s still confusing as an adult. All the plot holes and wonky time travel mechanics have been discussed in great length so I won’t get into them. Here are my top 5 moments:
1. Godzilla blowing away Shindo. Like many I did not see that coming. I like when Godzilla is the bad guy and this solidified to me that this new 100 meter beast was taking no prisoners.
2. Final fight with MKG. For me this battle basically showed how powerful
Godzilla has become. Even with MKG using every last trick in the book Godzilla still survives the battle and must be dropped into the sea again.
3. First fight with KG. I loved the brutality of it. Godzilla almost being strangled to death, KG’s head being blown off, KG stomping on Godzilla’s face.
4. Godzilla coming ashore at Hokkaido. Very excited to get the X-Plus figure coming out soon.
5. Kenji Sahara!!
Top 5 worst moments:
1. M-11 “running/skiing/skating” scene. Oh boy. I asked (forced) my fiancé to watch this movie with me so I could get an outsiders perspective since I view these films with a bias perspective. This scene started an uncontrollable laughter from her that didn’t abate for a good 2 minutes. I know you are supposed to suspend logic in these movies but if M-11 is that fast why does he even need a car? I realized at this point in the movie I needed to stop rationalizing things and just sit back and enjoy.
2. All the 1944 American soldier scenes were so bad. Terrible actors, even worse dialogue. I know we shouldn’t expect much from these guys but all the western actors in the Heisei films were horrible. Showa counterparts were much more believable.
3. KG not being a space monster. I did not like the Dorats origin. As I’m sure many others didn’t.
4. “Can it be true? Would Godzilla do that to us?” Really?
5. One thing that did bug me is the noticeable difference between the Godzilla suit and either the head puppet or whatever they used for the close up shots. Godzilla looked drunk in some of the close up shots. I know this has happened all throughout the series but it bothered me.
A few more takeaways-
Toho really knows how to do a title card scene. Seeing Godzilla and KG about to face off really got me excited for this movie. Which was somewhat disappointing since we wouldn’t see Godzilla in action for another hour.
I wish we had been told how the Godzillasaurus had survived for millions of years.
I love the continuity in the Heisei films. I know these movies have a lot of
flaws but I like how the story spanned 7 films. I love how this movie acknowledges that Godzilla was basically stopped by the anti-nuclear bacteria from Biollante but of course that all changed.
So much head nodding in this movie.
1:19:01- Not so fast you.
The shots of Godzilla in Sapporo remind me of Ed G’s The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Godzilla. I believe the shot of him in the city next to the tower is the cover of the book.
KG’s and MKG’s wings are just not Godzilla proof.
Why did Wilson and Co bring Emmy along if she was a distant relative of Teresawa? Didn’t they know that made her a liability and stood a pretty good chance of feeling sympathy for Japan and her distant family?
Fun movie, but a little overrated IMO. I rank it 4th in the Heisei series.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
I don't think either Wilson did that much background research on Emmy. Besides, Emmy didn't know she was a descendent of Teresawa until she did further research in her own time tracing her family tree.Godzilla21 wrote:Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah
So I decided to watch this gem the other night as I have not seen a Godzilla movie since G14. A little background on this film for me, this is the first film that introduced me to the Heisei era. I remember being at a Wherehouse video (anyone remember those?) and seeing “Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah” on VHS. There was some shiny new box art, KG and Godzilla had nice looking updated looks. I assumed they had just repackaged and renamed “Ghidrah The Three Headed Monster” into this video. After doing some investigating and reading the box, I realized this was in fact a BRAND NEW movie I had never seen before. Like any Godzilla fan at the time I lost my shit and made my mom purchase it for me (I was only 13 or 14 at the time, so $ was in short supply).
This movie was confusing when I was a young teen and it’s still confusing as an adult. All the plot holes and wonky time travel mechanics have been discussed in great length so I won’t get into them. Here are my top 5 moments:
1. Godzilla blowing away Shindo. Like many I did not see that coming. I like when Godzilla is the bad guy and this solidified to me that this new 100 meter beast was taking no prisoners.
2. Final fight with MKG. For me this battle basically showed how powerful
Godzilla has become. Even with MKG using every last trick in the book Godzilla still survives the battle and must be dropped into the sea again.
3. First fight with KG. I loved the brutality of it. Godzilla almost being strangled to death, KG’s head being blown off, KG stomping on Godzilla’s face.
4. Godzilla coming ashore at Hokkaido. Very excited to get the X-Plus figure coming out soon.
5. Kenji Sahara!!
Top 5 worst moments:
1. M-11 “running/skiing/skating” scene. Oh boy. I asked (forced) my fiancé to watch this movie with me so I could get an outsiders perspective since I view these films with a bias perspective. This scene started an uncontrollable laughter from her that didn’t abate for a good 2 minutes. I know you are supposed to suspend logic in these movies but if M-11 is that fast why does he even need a car? I realized at this point in the movie I needed to stop rationalizing things and just sit back and enjoy.
2. All the 1944 American soldier scenes were so bad. Terrible actors, even worse dialogue. I know we shouldn’t expect much from these guys but all the western actors in the Heisei films were horrible. Showa counterparts were much more believable.
3. KG not being a space monster. I did not like the Dorats origin. As I’m sure many others didn’t.
4. “Can it be true? Would Godzilla do that to us?” Really?
5. One thing that did bug me is the noticeable difference between the Godzilla suit and either the head puppet or whatever they used for the close up shots. Godzilla looked drunk in some of the close up shots. I know this has happened all throughout the series but it bothered me.
A few more takeaways-
Toho really knows how to do a title card scene. Seeing Godzilla and KG about to face off really got me excited for this movie. Which was somewhat disappointing since we wouldn’t see Godzilla in action for another hour.
I wish we had been told how the Godzillasaurus had survived for millions of years.
I love the continuity in the Heisei films. I know these movies have a lot of
flaws but I like how the story spanned 7 films. I love how this movie acknowledges that Godzilla was basically stopped by the anti-nuclear bacteria from Biollante but of course that all changed.
So much head nodding in this movie.
1:19:01- Not so fast you.
The shots of Godzilla in Sapporo remind me of Ed G’s The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Godzilla. I believe the shot of him in the city next to the tower is the cover of the book.
KG’s and MKG’s wings are just not Godzilla proof.
Why did Wilson and Co bring Emmy along if she was a distant relative of Teresawa? Didn’t they know that made her a liability and stood a pretty good chance of feeling sympathy for Japan and her distant family?
Fun movie, but a little overrated IMO. I rank it 4th in the Heisei series.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
Ok, if Wilson and his crew were so advanced why didn't they just use MKG in the first place.
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Re: Monster Discussion #43: King Ghidorah (Heisei)
Do you treat Mecha-King Ghidorah as a separate entity? I think it can kinda go both ways. Technically, Ghidora's body was "alive" so maybe it was more than just a zombie, but then again, these monsters are so tough that spending two centuries on the bottom of the ocean may as well count as death. Especially since the cod temperature wsa the reason its body survived in the first place.