Godzilla vs. Destoroyah (1995)

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Ivo-goji wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:37 pm
LegendZilla wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:47 pm ^Better to tamper with a pre-existing work with a mostly negative-mixed reception as opposed to loved by virtually everyone.
The Heisei series' reception is relatively positive in Japan.

I imagine the Japanese fandom would react to the Heisei Godzilla films being digitally defiled about the same way they'd react to the Showa series getting the same treatment.
If they were able to create new footage to replace stock footage in movies like Gigan or Megalon, It shouldn't hurt.

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LegendZilla wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:14 pm
Ivo-goji wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:37 pm
LegendZilla wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 6:47 pm ^Better to tamper with a pre-existing work with a mostly negative-mixed reception as opposed to loved by virtually everyone.
The Heisei series' reception is relatively positive in Japan.

I imagine the Japanese fandom would react to the Heisei Godzilla films being digitally defiled about the same way they'd react to the Showa series getting the same treatment.
If they were able to create new footage to replace stock footage in movies like Gigan or Megalon, It shouldn't hurt.
Oh poop, please no. That would look godawful.

Like, how does that suggestion even make sense? Create new footage in the 2020s to replace stock footage in films made in the early 1970s? Star Wars is one thing, but how exactly would that work in the Showa Godzilla series without a dedicated physical effects crew recreating decades old miniatures and monster suits?

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Legion1979 wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:03 pm
LegendZilla wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:14 pm
Ivo-goji wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:37 pm
The Heisei series' reception is relatively positive in Japan.

I imagine the Japanese fandom would react to the Heisei Godzilla films being digitally defiled about the same way they'd react to the Showa series getting the same treatment.
If they were able to create new footage to replace stock footage in movies like Gigan or Megalon, It shouldn't hurt.
Oh poop, please no. That would look godawful.

Like, how does that suggestion even make sense? Create new footage in the 2020s to replace stock footage in films made in the early 1970s? Star Wars is one thing, but how exactly would that work in the Showa Godzilla series without a dedicated physical effects crew recreating decades old miniatures and monster suits?

Go home, Legendzilla. You're drunk.
Here's my refutation. Look at what they did with the original fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader in the original Star Wars despite being over 40 years old. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng ... FXitinPost

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It not only looks like FMV-tier garbage, it's inclusion in the overall film is horrendously paced and monumentally at odds with the tone of the other scenes it cuts back and forth from. The obnoxious, overblown musical accompaniment and embarrassingly hamfisted ROTS quotes overloads the senses and doesn't allow even an iota of emotional inference from the audience.

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LegendZilla wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:27 pm ^Imagine if they made special editions of Heisei films with enhanced effects.
Honestly, I'd be all for this as long as the original, unenhanced versions are still readily available. Altering preexisting works is perfectly fine as long as they don't completely replace the originals. I don't think movies, or any media for that matter, should monoliths set in stone.
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Gerdzerl wrote: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:21 am
LegendZilla wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 5:27 pm ^Imagine if they made special editions of Heisei films with enhanced effects.
Honestly, I'd be all for this as long as the original, unenhanced versions are still readily available. Altering preexisting works is perfectly fine as long as they don't completely replace the originals. I don't think movies, or any media for that matter, should monoliths set in stone.
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LegendZilla wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:23 pm Here's my refutation. Look at what they did with the original fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader in the original Star Wars despite being over 40 years old. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng ... FXitinPost
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LegendZilla wrote: Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:23 pm
Here's my refutation. Look at what they did with the original fight between Obi-Wan and Darth Vader in the original Star Wars despite being over 40 years old. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to2SMng ... FXitinPost
That is some Disney level tomfoolery.
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While I can see the appeal of that Star Wars edit, trying to help that pivotal moment mesh more consistently with the elaborate context that has built up around it and with the aesthetics of modern Star Wars, I don't see the need for a similar approach for Heisei Godzilla. Star Wars has the 'problem' of being a single cohesive story with its movies made across several decades. The technology and stylistic approaches to filmmaking have changed radically in that time, and now the oldest entries look out of place in the franchise at large. The Heisei Godzilla films, meanwhile, were all made in close proximity to one another and end up fitting together pretty effectively as a result. The '90s films especially are very consistent with each other. Even if the effects aren't the greatest, they all look like part of the same series, and there's just nothing to gain from messing with them other than giving fans the chance to say "wow, that looks cooler." That's not a good enough reason to change them.
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And what would they even change? CGI planes and tanks? Re-animated rays and lasers? Can't imagine much would change with the monsters, since Toho isn't going to build new suits. And who here would really want to see all the practical effects replaced with computer animation?

The entire franchise was built on physical effects and survived on it for a half century. Why would anyone support this stuff being replaced? To me its a such a dumb notion.

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I'd be fine with it as long as the CG versions match the practical effects as closely as possible. I love practical effects as much as anybody, but the way they look and feel is more important to me than the fact that they're physical objects.



This is all CG, but it matches the look and feel of the OT miniatures pretty much perfectly.

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While I don't think it's necessary, I would probably still buy it.
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