New allies for Godzilla in Rewia era? Or old enemies reworked as allies?

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New allies for Godzilla in Rewia era? Or old enemies reworked as allies?

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Now the latter might seem controversial at first but remember: Anguirus was first portrayed as a natural enemy of Godzilla and now everyone thinks of them as Godzilla's most dependable companion.

Kamacuras could be an interesting ally, following Godzilla around and helping him in battles with hit and run tactics but also completely willing to flee if it feels too dangerous. As Godzilla does not really eat his fallen foes, Kamacuras could easily see Godzilla as an ideal hunting companion.

Varan is also interesting as they could be the "token evil teammate", given they lord over their territory like an evil king and destroyed a village for making too much noise when looking for a missing child.

And a case of a total jerk monster like Gigan being forced by their masters to team up with Godzilla against a greater threat is also something we've never seen and could have potential.

Or perhaps entirely new monsters created to be Godzilla's allies, designed with dynamic fight scenes and team-moves in mind?

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I don’t see the Reiwa era really giving Godzilla Showa-esque allies given how he’s been portrayed so far in its three versions of him.
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A Godzilla Earth styled Godzilla assimilated Baragon and Kamacarus would be interesting. How about Maguma?

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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:01 am I don’t see the Reiwa era really giving Godzilla Showa-esque allies given how he’s been portrayed so far in its three versions of him.
The last two versions were drafted during riding the hype train of Shin and we have Chibi Godzilla existing concurrently.

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I think that Biollante could make for an interesting ally.

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LegendZilla wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:19 pm I think that Biollante could make for an interesting ally.
Agreed, she is part-Godzilla after all.
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I think it’d be interesting to see SpaceGodzilla reworked to have an inherent connection to Godzilla and they team up and fight other kaiju/destroy literally everything

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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:01 am I don’t see the Reiwa era really giving Godzilla Showa-esque allies given how he’s been portrayed so far in its three versions of him.
Well, there has been a Reiwa ally in the form of Rodan in Godzilla the Ride.

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It recently occurred to me that Destoroyah with its microbial forms would be a very useful ally for fighting a dangerous infection. As for why Destoroyah would do such a thing: Destoroyah is adaptation incarnate. If a symbiosis with Godzilla is what would be useful for survival no reason they wouldn't, especially if there are other kaiju largely immune to their powers they could hope to lure Godzilla to where their enemies are.
(Attempts to make Destoroyah into a demonic omnicidal maniac fall flat with me given how nonanthropomorphic kaiju other than Spacegodzilla and Mothra and Battra are in Heisei. Destoroyah seems to just want to survive and proliferate, and killing Jr was removing a confirmed threat and also likely served a poor attempt to flex their power and scare Godzilla off ...that backfired horribly as Destoryah does not understand parental love.)

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I'm all for either option, or bringing back past allies. First, though, we need a Reiwa Godzilla capable of joining forces with an ally. The three main incarnations so far have just been mindless engines of destruction.
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Y'know, if Toho ever decides to bring back the concept; why not M?

If we have another Godzilla who starts off as a villain but ends up turning good ala Showa Godzilla, him getting an ally in the form of someone who used to be human could be a nice way to show him making peace with all of humanity.
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How about King Ghidorah? It would be interesting to have them be allies for once. Hell, this would be good for just one movie in a separate continuity, so we would only see it in this one movie and never again in case fans don't like.
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I can't really imagine King Ghidorah beving an interesting duo Tag-team partner alone, but if part of a larger group might work. I could see Ghidorah grudgingly focusing its firepower on a natural enemy or a monster created to kill him. Not like something bigger and meaner, but mayber more insidious and hard to kill and parasitic.

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rationalorphan wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:48 pm I think it’d be interesting to see SpaceGodzilla reworked to have an inherent connection to Godzilla and they team up and fight other kaiju/destroy literally everything
I think SpaceGodzilla could make for an interesting Vegeta type character to Godzilla. An evil member of the same species who comes to conquer the earth, eventually becomes a guarded ally to the protagonist but remains a rival to him.
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JesstrK wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:40 pm
rationalorphan wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:48 pm I think it’d be interesting to see SpaceGodzilla reworked to have an inherent connection to Godzilla and they team up and fight other kaiju/destroy literally everything
I think SpaceGodzilla could make for an interesting Vegeta type character to Godzilla. An evil member of the same species who comes to conquer the earth, eventually becomes a guarded ally to the protagonist but remains a rival to him.
That’s exactly how I pictured it. That’s be a perfect character arc for him imo

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rationalorphan wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 3:03 pm
JesstrK wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 1:40 pm
rationalorphan wrote: Tue Jun 29, 2021 5:48 pm I think it’d be interesting to see SpaceGodzilla reworked to have an inherent connection to Godzilla and they team up and fight other kaiju/destroy literally everything
I think SpaceGodzilla could make for an interesting Vegeta type character to Godzilla. An evil member of the same species who comes to conquer the earth, eventually becomes a guarded ally to the protagonist but remains a rival to him.
That’s exactly how I pictured it. That’s be a perfect character arc for him imo
Spacegodzilla's connection to Godzilla never being made use of has been the huge past problem for the character. Why not simply make a new kaiju then instead of a relatively boring design?
Peronally, my own idea I developed since I was young was to not make Spacegodzilla mere puppet , but look at how parasites alternate behavior combined with how like Gaira , Spacegodzilla grew up in a harsh void with no proper social interaction. ( Spacegodzilla's crystals were said to be inspired by the visible effects of a virus on the leaves of tobacco plants).

Ever seen how an ofshoot of barnacles, Sacculina, infects crabs and has the crabs treat the growth like an egg sac to be protected to and cared for? Male crabs will even be altered to act female and physically changed.I'm not suggesting the exact same thing, but I can easily see crystals manipulaing Spacegodzilla for their own propagation. Spacegodzilla claims larger territories than Godzilla, and defends those territories, spreading and protecting the crystals. No micromanaging mind control, just altering the behavior of the host by metaphorically twisting knobs and pushing buttons on existing instincts. And the fact that Spacegodzilla needs the crystal to feed makes it more equal than mere parasitism. I imagine the crystals not being concious but like supercomputers that can't pass the Turing Test.

My idea of Spacegodzilla was less like a full on mirror or equal to Godzilla, but a young hotshot up on roidrage, and antisocial from growing up in the void of space and the crystals increasing aggression for the above reason (claim more territory and more fiercly defend territory.) They have no framework for proper interacton and many conflicting emotons about seeing of another kind. Basically a troubled teen insisting they are stronger and smarter than everyone else.
While a rocky start is inevitable, the possibility of Spacegodzilla mellowing out is still possible.

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Dinoskell wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 3:03 pm I can't really imagine King Ghidorah beving an interesting duo Tag-team partner alone, but if part of a larger group might work. I could see Ghidorah grudgingly focusing its firepower on a natural enemy or a monster created to kill him. Not like something bigger and meaner, but mayber more insidious and hard to kill and parasitic.
I want King Ghidorah to team up with Mechagodzilla. At least once.

Or be teamed up with all the alien monsters. Mechagodzilla, Orga, Gigan.




As for Godzilla? I think Kong, Gorosaurus, Baragon, and Titanosaurus seem like cool allies.
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A Godzilla indifferent to humanity but on good terms with another kaiju that's not could be interesting . Won't intervene in the conflict, but will defend ally against military attacks when they should be fighting against a common enemy. "This is not the time, fools!"
And maybe smack the ally with his tail if they seem distracted and want to attack a human city when they have more important things to do.

Varan might be a good candidate for this.

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Why not both? It would be cool to see kaiju known as enemies of Godzilla become friends. However I am of course open to new creations as well. Seeing something like Biollante or Destoroyah fight alongside Godzilla would be stunning! Maybe Gigan. Gigan could easily be worked in as a cyborg character. Or if we are going to the more grounded route I of course would love to see Varan.

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Destoroyah turning into living power armor...which is also the perfect setup to for the scorpion and the frog dilemma: kill Godzilla easily when battle is over, or not?

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