Godzilla: Singular Point Non-Spoiler Thread

[JAGzilla]

Okay, it does get a little talky and techno-babbly sometimes

What I don't like about this is that they throw you into it right away and then keep piling it on. It's been hard to follow at times. I decided a few days before release that i'd only be watching one episode a day and now I'm glad I took that approach because it gives me some time to process all the exposition in these early episodes.

That would probably be the smart approach, yeah. I think I'm better off blitzing through it quickly, though; as long as I understand the basics of what they're trying to tell me, I'm content for now. I'll let reviews fill me in on whatever I fail to make sense of.

Added in 1 hour 7 minutes 15 seconds:
Up to episode eight. Jet Jaguar is wielding a

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spear made from one of Anguirus' spikes. Of all the things I never expected to see, that's one of them. Post GvK, though, that type of thing might well become a new normal.

The

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drill-spiders

are really cool new additions. If we can't have

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Kumonga

back, I'll be happy to settle for these guys for now.

Godzilla is perhaps aping Shin a little too closely, but that was always to be expected. At least they're giving him his own unique twists and abilities.

The Orthopedic Diatom or whatever they call it is freaking nuts as a new superweapon. I can't wait to see what they do with it going forward, although I expect it to blow up in their faces somehow.

[Executive Hamster]

I just finished Singular Point. Truly one of the best things to come out of this franchise in ages. Those last few episodes had me glued to my seat. Brilliant. Even if I didnt understand the science, and honestly, it was most likely BS science, but still.

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I honestly found that the ending was a good place to end. I don't think a second season is necessary, though obviously I know that's what they are going to do.

[Angilasman]

Been busy, so haven't been able to marathon the whole thing - but I've just past episode 5 and I'm really loving this series. On the surface it seems like a radical new interpretation of Godzilla (the aesthetics are very modern and, in my opinion, pretty dang cool), but in actuality it's a back-to-basics return to the sci-fi mystery roots of the genre! It almost reminds me of Ultra Q a bit.

Speaking of Ultra Q: the Hedorah smog cloud in the retro end credits looks a lot more like Peguila than the '70s Hedorah!

[Shenanigans]

Anybody here picking up the guidebook? Its cheap enough, but I don't know how much I'd get out of it since I do not see a translated version happening.

https://www.futabasha.co.jp/booksdb/boo ... 883-1.html

[Terasawa]

I think the science is pretty cool, but on the whole I don't like this series. To be fair, I still have three episodes to go, but I'm confident that those couldn't do enough to flip the script for me. IMO the biggest problem has been the disparity in the pacing of individual episodes and the overarching story. For example, some of the early episodes zip by, but it feels like little progress has been made in the characters' journeys. It's just not all that efficiently plotted: the scientific revelations are what drive the plot, but it happens very gradually despite the rapid-fire sequence of events (and exposition) in every episode. The pace of the series just feels off-kilter to me.

Another problem is the frequent jumping around from one part of the world to another. As I wrote in another post, I've been watching one episode a day, but still, it's very easy to lose track of some threads or characters altogether.

And I'm not sure what to make of the style. The animation doesn't really appeal to me, especially those constant-motion, Oldboy-type battle scenes. The exposition montages (newscasts, social media conversations, etc.) interested me at first, but I've grown pretty tired of them.

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At least in episode 10, it's revealed that the text conversation has a significant purpose in the plot, so I can kinda excuse that despite how clunky it is as a visual storytelling device.

Finally, something I'm sure that's already been discussed a million times:

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The "callbacks" to other monsters in the form of either a new creature (Salunga and the flying spider things) or something totally different (the Titanosaurus and Varan versions of Godzilla) are puzzling, at best. I don't mind seeing these characters receive a facelift or even their entire natures and backstories rebooted, but it's just strange to me that they'd deliberately repurpose existing characters the way they have. It's too meta and it draws me out of the story.

[Cryptid_Liker]

A nitpick that I haven't really dwelled upon until now: the text messages between Yun and Mei go by way too dang fast. There's no way Sonic and Speedy Gonzales weren't typing for them.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Anybody here picking up the guidebook? Its cheap enough, but I don't know how much I'd get out of it since I do not see a translated version happening.

https://www.futabasha.co.jp/booksdb/boo ... 883-1.html

I'll order a copy! Thanks for the heads up!

[Tyrant_Lizard_King]

I do really like SP Godzilla but the actual concept art is so much cooler and more vicious looking than the in series CG model.

[Shenanigans]

Anybody here picking up the guidebook? Its cheap enough, but I don't know how much I'd get out of it since I do not see a translated version happening.

https://www.futabasha.co.jp/booksdb/boo ... 883-1.html

I'll order a copy! Thanks for the heads up!

Let us know if its worth picking up for the art alone!

I do really like SP Godzilla but the actual concept art is so much cooler and more vicious looking than the in series CG model.

I feel like a few of the kaiju look cooler in the concept art than in the series itself. Then again, that's true of a lot of things, really.

[JessIAm]

I just finished Singular Point. Truly one of the best things to come out of this franchise in ages. Those last few episodes had me glued to my seat. Brilliant.

Agreed! I binge watched the first time through, and I have to admit I've re-watched it at least 3 times.

Even if I didnt understand the science, and honestly, it was most likely BS science, but still.

I have a math degree and a computer science degree. The big about singular points in hyperspace and archetypes is actually mathematically sound! They have what they need for consistent hard science fiction - internal consistency when adding a scientifically fantastic element (hyperspacial singular points) to existing science. The archetypes allowed by hyperspacial singular points allow for the crazy science needed to allow Kaiju (which can't exist in our world because of the squared cubed law for animal size).

[Rando Yaguchi]

Man, I really need to watch this. Probably need to finally check out the Anime trilogy first though.

[LSD Jellyfish]

Man, I really need to watch this. Probably need to finally check out the Anime trilogy first though.

Nah, you don't.

The Anime Trilogy is worth one watch. I like a lot of it, but it's certainly nowhere as re-watchable or as craftful as the older movies. SP is definitely better.

[Rando Yaguchi]

Nah, you don't.

The Anime Trilogy is worth one watch. I like a lot of it, but it's certainly nowhere as re-watchable or as craftful as the older movies. SP is definitely better.

Lol, yeah, I've avoided them for a long time because I know they're going to suck.

[Spuro]

I'm actually not so certain that Singular Point is that much better. It has more monster action, sure, and it's... partially... 2D animated. Those are about the only things I think it has over the anime trilogy.

[Jetty_Jags]

I just finished Singular Point. Truly one of the best things to come out of this franchise in ages. Those last few episodes had me glued to my seat. Brilliant.

Agreed! I binge watched the first time through, and I have to admit I've re-watched it at least 3 times.

Even if I didnt understand the science, and honestly, it was most likely BS science, but still.

I have a math degree and a computer science degree. The big about singular points in hyperspace and archetypes is actually mathematically sound! They have what they need for consistent hard science fiction - internal consistency when adding a scientifically fantastic element (hyperspacial singular points) to existing science. The archetypes allowed by hyperspacial singular points allow for the crazy science needed to allow Kaiju (which can't exist in our world because of the squared cubed law for animal size).

Glad to have you on board to explain some things!

[JessIAm]

Glad to have you on board to explain some things!

Thanks so much! I used to tutor math, so I guess I'm experienced.

I've used my computer science degree to have a career. Now I've used my math degree to explain Godzilla! LOL!

[Executive Hamster]

I'm actually not so certain that Singular Point is that much better. It has more monster action, sure, and it's... partially... 2D animated. Those are about the only things I think it has over the anime trilogy.

I mean, there is also massively better characters, a more enjoyable narrative, tone, and colorscheme, and a more colorful cast of monsters.

[Spuro]

I'm actually not so certain that Singular Point is that much better. It has more monster action, sure, and it's... partially... 2D animated. Those are about the only things I think it has over the anime trilogy.

I mean, there is also massively better characters, a more enjoyable narrative, tone, and colorscheme, and a more colorful cast of monsters.

Haruo DOES suck pretty hard. And I appreciate that Singular Point had stronger female characters than the trilogy had to offer.

Okay, yeah, I'll agree with the character thing.

[Terasawa]

I'm actually not so certain that Singular Point is that much better. It has more monster action, sure, and it's... partially... 2D animated. Those are about the only things I think it has over the anime trilogy.

I mean, there is also massively better characters, a more enjoyable narrative, tone, and colorscheme, and a more colorful cast of monsters.

I agree with you, but none of those reasons explain why GSP is better, just why you prefer it. Anyone could very easily say the anime trilogy is better for those same reasons.

[Executive Hamster]

I'm actually not so certain that Singular Point is that much better. It has more monster action, sure, and it's... partially... 2D animated. Those are about the only things I think it has over the anime trilogy.

I mean, there is also massively better characters, a more enjoyable narrative, tone, and colorscheme, and a more colorful cast of monsters.

I agree with you, but none of those reasons explain why GSP is better, just why you prefer it. Anyone could very easily say the anime trilogy is better for those same reasons.

I mean, yeah, they could say that, but they would be wrong, at least in certain categories. Its going to be hard to argue that the characters in the Anime trilogy are good in the slightest, and there definitely isnt a more colorful cast of monsters when there are like, what, 4 different monsters that appear in the whole trilogy compared to the huge variety in SP. Everything else is more or less up to someone's personal opinion.