Wait what? Since when was Showa Ghidorah ever even in the top 5, when we have the likes of Mecha-King Ghiodrah, Heisei Ghidorah, Death Ghidorah, and Kaizer Ghidorah? Only ones he really beats out much are Creataceous Ghidorah, GMK Ghidorah, and the anime's spaghetti monster.Italian G-Fan wrote:KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?
I don't want him to be telepathic. The monsters can communicate with body language. The fairies can always translate if they want to be on the nose.Italian G-Fan wrote:KOTM Ghidorah... awful? And this... why?Destorogoji wrote:I guess we all can agree Lovecraftian Ghidorah is the next logical step for him (except for the people who want Toho to leave him rest and for the people still hyped with that awful KoTM Ghiddy).
KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah
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Mmm... I would like to see Reiwa Ghidorah again as a planet destroyer alien, like the Showa one, but even more terrifying and sadistic. And maybe even capable to telepathically comunicate. Imagine Reiwa Ghidorah talking telepathically to his victims before killing them. That would be absolutely terrifying.
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KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa King Ghidorah
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KOTM Ghidorah is like the third best version of the character after Grand King Ghidorah and Showa Ghidorah
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?
Can't we have Ghidora take a long deserved rest? I mean he's been in every era, and honestly I think for the time being, there isn't a whole lot more that can be done with him.
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This. KOTM gave him his much-needed Hollywood CGI extravaganza, and now he needs to be crammed back in his asteroid to orbit the Solar System for another decade or two. Let's get somebody else in the Big Bad spotlight for a change. Anybody else. Hell, let's make Jet Jaguar an evil mastermind and let him have another movie.Jetty_Jags wrote:Can't we have Ghidora take a long deserved rest? I mean he's been in every era, and honestly I think for the time being, there isn't a whole lot more that can be done with him.
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I'm with Jag and.....Jag (that's gonna be a problem, lol), give Bidiboi his vacation.
but if we have to.....
No Lovecraft.
Achieve the true Showa ambition.
A striking golden dragon, beautiful to behold, graceful, a sheer contrast to the earthy or scarred normal monsters....but one with a cruel sadism, a maniac energy to obliterate everything it sees, and a cackle of pure GLEE of the endless chaotic devastation he brings.
He's been a weapon. He's been an abomination. He's been a king. Bring Ghidorah back to his roots as the glorious and mad apocalypse personified.
but if we have to.....
No Lovecraft.
Achieve the true Showa ambition.
A striking golden dragon, beautiful to behold, graceful, a sheer contrast to the earthy or scarred normal monsters....but one with a cruel sadism, a maniac energy to obliterate everything it sees, and a cackle of pure GLEE of the endless chaotic devastation he brings.
He's been a weapon. He's been an abomination. He's been a king. Bring Ghidorah back to his roots as the glorious and mad apocalypse personified.
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I would like to see them take a break from using Ghidorah, we've got four defeats versions of him in, like two years. In all honesty, I would like to see some of the other older monsters get used again.
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Why Frankenstein when we could have the Gargantuas in the World of Godzilla?
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?
Uh...no? I’m fine with not rushing him out right off the bat and giving him a break, but shelving Godzilla’s arch nemesis for a decade or two is a bit excessive. Like I said, I’m fine with not seeing him right away. What I’d prefer is a Thanos style slow build up. We get several story arcs with other monsters as main villains (Gigan, Destoroyah, MechaGodzilla, etc). But at the end of each arc they can hint that something even worse might be out there. Like the black hole aliens show up with MechaGodzilla to invade earth because their planet was destroyed by...something. Then, when Ghidorah finally shows up, we get a version that has all the best attributes of previous versions but also corrects all the flaws of the previous versions. Basically what Showa Ghidorah was originally presented as, scaled up to modern standards. As awesome as KOTM Ghidorah was, I don’t think he was properly scaled to how Ghidorah was originally presented in GTTHM, requiring a three way team up to defeat. Felt like a missed opportunity.JAGzilla wrote:This. KOTM gave him his much-needed Hollywood CGI extravaganza, and now he needs to be crammed back in his asteroid to orbit the Solar System for another decade or two Let's get somebody else in the Big Bad spotlight for a change. Anybody else. Hell, let's make Jet Jaguar an evil mastermind and let him have another movie.
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?
Why? That's not very long, really. Okay, twenty years maybe, but ten? Nah, that's nothing. I doubt Toho is going back to annual movies any time soon, so we won't likely see more than four or five movies in that time. I can absolutely live that long without seeing Ghidorah again, and the franchise should get by just fine if Toho gets it through their heads that their other monsters can be just as cool as the Big Five. Destoroyah, Spacegodzilla, Orga, Hedorah, and potentially others can all easily fill the major villain spot, and all have plenty of potential to be updated and made grand and terrifying for modern audiences.JesstrK wrote: Uh...no? I’m fine with not rushing him out right off the bat and giving him a break, but shelving Godzilla’s arch nemesis for a decade or two is a bit excessive.
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?
Because (besides being an important part of the franchise) he’s my favorite and I like him better than any of the other potential villains you mentionedJAGzilla wrote: Why?
Really, I’d think anyone would feel the same way if people were calling for their favorite character/kaiju to be shelved for the foreseeable future. That said...
Yeah, when you put it that way it doesn’t sound so bad. I was thinking in terms of how things were in the Heisei era and part of the Showa era where we got a new movie roughly every 1-3 years (most of which were good), in which case I’d expect to see Ghidorah sooner than 10 years in. Personally I’d like for Toho to go back to that type of schedule if possible, but I’d understand if that was impossible if they want to go all out on special effects this time.That's not very long, really. Okay, twenty years maybe, but ten? Nah, that's nothing. I doubt Toho is going back to annual movies any time soon, so we won't likely see more than four or five movies in that time.
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1. Because Frankenstein is the more famous monster, big name recognition and all that.Gailah 1966 wrote:Why Frankenstein when we could have the Gargantuas in the World of Godzilla?
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2. Because having Frankenstein return would be fun.
3. Why not have both Frankie and the Gargantuas? Why do we always think in "either or" terms with this franchise?
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I think it is due to the fact that there are only a limited number of kaiju that fans can really expect to appear in each film. There is a reason why so many kaiju have never really had a repeat appearance, both Frankie and the Gargantuas haven't had an appearance in over 50 years. They also didn't even crack the top 20 in fan polling, so unless someone involve with the production is a huge fan of the two films, I doubt they are even on the radar to be included.Vakanai wrote:3. Why not have both Frankie and the Gargantuas? Why do we always think in "either or" terms with this franchise?
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Well, the Gargantuas are lincenced by Toho. They are original Toho Kaiju.Vakanai wrote: 3. Why not have both Frankie and the Gargantuas? Why do we always think in "either or" terms with this franchise?
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Which just means we're not likely to ever see any of the three again - but why does that mean we should hope for only one or the other then? We're already wishing for more or less the impossible, why not just own it and swing for the fences with our desires then?szmigiel wrote:I think it is due to the fact that there are only a limited number of kaiju that fans can really expect to appear in each film. There is a reason why so many kaiju have never really had a repeat appearance, both Frankie and the Gargantuas haven't had an appearance in over 50 years. They also didn't even crack the top 20 in fan polling, so unless someone involve with the production is a huge fan of the two films, I doubt they are even on the radar to be included.Vakanai wrote:3. Why not have both Frankie and the Gargantuas? Why do we always think in "either or" terms with this franchise?
Frankenstein's public domain, and you can always trademark certain appearances/interpretations or something (like how only Universal can use the classic flat-headed Karloff Frankie). There's no reason to bring up licensing at all really.Gailah 1966 wrote:Well, the Gargantuas are lincenced by Toho. They are original Toho Kaiju.Vakanai wrote: 3. Why not have both Frankie and the Gargantuas? Why do we always think in "either or" terms with this franchise?
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I'm down with it, as long as he doesn't look like a caveman.
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Re: Frankenstein in World of Godzilla?
I was always under the impression that Toho owned the rights to their version (Frankenstein) just like Universal owned the rights to their version (the Frankenstein Monster).
Since the original novel's in the public domain, there should be no problem here, right?
I think that Frankenstein, Sanda and Gaira could, and should, be put in the World of Godzilla storyline.
Since the original novel's in the public domain, there should be no problem here, right?
I think that Frankenstein, Sanda and Gaira could, and should, be put in the World of Godzilla storyline.
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I would love if Frankenstein returned if Toho made it similar to their version.
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Can we get a Mothra who has more special powers than just glitter for once? Maybe have her light up her body with electricity and she can ram the opponent with it?
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I'm guessing you've never seen the Heisei films?tyrantgoji wrote:Can we get a Mothra who has more special powers than just glitter for once? Maybe have her light up her body with electricity and she can ram the opponent with it?
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Oh not beams. I mean literally surge her body with lighting and just have that be a power.Cryptid_Liker wrote:I'm guessing you've never seen the Heisei films?tyrantgoji wrote:Can we get a Mothra who has more special powers than just glitter for once? Maybe have her light up her body with electricity and she can ram the opponent with it?
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