How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?

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Make him absurdly *something*. Doesn’t matter what. Absurdly powerful? Go for it. Absurdly huge? Hell yeah!

Bring back his GTTHM personality. Someone who destroys planets for shits and giggles. I also want Showa style roars, Showa-esque design, etc.
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?

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What if you did a reversal of GMK Ghidorah? There were once three deadly, giant dragons. These dragons sought to combine to become the ultimate beast, but were stopped before they could. The dragons were buried far away from each other so they'd never combine. In the modern age, one of the dragons is freed and wakes. Its call causes the other to wake as well, and each causes damage as they head for some city location. In the end, the dragons combine to form the three headed terror, which Godzilla must destroy.
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Re: Reiwa Ghidorah: How do you want him?

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LegendZilla wrote: Wed Jul 21, 2021 3:56 pm Here's an idea : Assuming they go back to his roots as a space-dwelling monster, why not give him no eyes? I mean, whereas Godzilla spends most of his time in the ocean, Ghidorah does the same flowing through the pitch-black void of space, so therefore he probably won't need them and instead rely on other senses.
I do think that would be interesting.

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King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Hi there, LegendZilla here once again. Today, I will like to discuss whether or not everyone's giant lion-golem, King Caesar deserves another chance in a live action Godzilla film. I often hear people around here complain how he was handled in his 1974 debut, perceiving him as weak, but hey that's what reboots are for. If something didn't work the first time, try again and put more effort.

I am one of those who rather does enjoy King Ceasar as a kaiju. I think he has a ton of potential and amping him up would be the way to go to take the character forward. What ideas do you people have as to what to do with him? for one, they should give him his super-jumping ability that was cut from Godzilla Vs MechaGodzilla, making him much more of a good physical combatant. As for a new ability, perhaps the green gem on his forehead could be used for him to make illusions to confuse and/or hypnotize enemies with. The latter ability will only work on organic opponents though, serving as a weakness.

Do you have any ideas as to how Caesar could use a good update? I would prefer if you could stray from the 2004 version as much as possible and avoid anthropomorphization route. Perhaps they should try to take advantage of modern SFX technology and go for a more animalistic route like this :

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Feedback would be much appreciated. On a side note, do you have any dream-matches as for kaiju you would like to see him pitted against? Peace out. ;)
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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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I actually disagree on the more animalistic route. I mean, I would love to see a four legged lion themed kaiju, but it shouldn't be King Caesar. It's kind of one of those things where it'd be too different from his design. Part of what makes him King Caesar is the anthropomorphic design, stray from that and while you may have a good kaiju you don't really have King Caesar anymore.
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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Being a monster based on shisa statues, the four-legged stance could work. Perhaps if he's able to swap between quadrupedal and bipedal modes for battle, you could get the best of both worlds that way.

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What I'm more curious about - I wonder if it would be appropriate for him to have a twin, keeping with the tradition of having 2 shisa statues? The "Godziban" web series introduced the nightmare-inducing Miyarabi, sister of Caesar in that show.
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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Since there is an actual Okinawan myth of a Shisa statue coming to life and defending the land from an invading creature (in this case a giant sea dragon) that gives me an idea. I think it would be a great opportunity to give Caesar an ancient rivalry with Ghidorah (or Manda) and realize a dream match of mine in which Caesar and Godzilla team up to defeat him.

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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Well we've seen pretty radical redesigns as of late. Particularly with Godzilla. So a more animalistic or fantasy based King Caesar is alright with me! One of many underused kaiju that is just begging to be transformed in a new entry that makes the character much more memorable!

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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Lesko wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:33 pm Well we've seen pretty radical redesigns as of late. Particularly with Godzilla. So a more animalistic or fantasy based King Caesar is alright with me! One of many underused kaiju that is just begging to be transformed in a new entry that makes the character much more memorable!
I honestly don't think the Godzilla designs have been radical. Shin gave a strong Heisei feeling but just more messed up, Earth was similar to but different from Legendary's, and SP ultimately wasn't too different outside the croc jaw going, and we didn't see much of it too boot. So I think such a KC redesign would really be much more radical, but to each their own.
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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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GigaBowserG wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:33 am Being a monster based on shisa statues, the four-legged stance could work. Perhaps if he's able to swap between quadrupedal and bipedal modes for battle, you could get the best of both worlds that way.

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Both Baragon and Varan already do that, so why not KC as well? I would like a quadruped design.
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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Vakanai wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:21 pm
Lesko wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:33 pm Well we've seen pretty radical redesigns as of late. Particularly with Godzilla. So a more animalistic or fantasy based King Caesar is alright with me! One of many underused kaiju that is just begging to be transformed in a new entry that makes the character much more memorable!
I honestly don't think the Godzilla designs have been radical. Shin gave a strong Heisei feeling but just more messed up, Earth was similar to but different from Legendary's, and SP ultimately wasn't too different outside the croc jaw going, and we didn't see much of it too boot. So I think such a KC redesign would really be much more radical, but to each their own.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree here. Shin and even SP are pretty different from what we have gotten relatively speaking. In my opinion of course. Although I do agree that the anime trilogy was very heavy on the LPG design. Just with an Earthy flair to it.

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Re: King Caesar in the Reiwa Era

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Lesko wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 3:22 pm
Vakanai wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:21 pm
Lesko wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:33 pm Well we've seen pretty radical redesigns as of late. Particularly with Godzilla. So a more animalistic or fantasy based King Caesar is alright with me! One of many underused kaiju that is just begging to be transformed in a new entry that makes the character much more memorable!
I honestly don't think the Godzilla designs have been radical. Shin gave a strong Heisei feeling but just more messed up, Earth was similar to but different from Legendary's, and SP ultimately wasn't too different outside the croc jaw going, and we didn't see much of it too boot. So I think such a KC redesign would really be much more radical, but to each their own.
I guess we just have to agree to disagree here. Shin and even SP are pretty different from what we have gotten relatively speaking. In my opinion of course. Although I do agree that the anime trilogy was very heavy on the LPG design. Just with an Earthy flair to it.
Will have to disagree indeed then, I really don't consider either of them to be radical. I mean, their early forms, sure. But the main forms, they hit pretty close to the Godzilla designs that came before. More so I think than a quadruped KC would be.
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Re: How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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We do not need to build up dozens of different topics about how individual monsters might be presented. Just use this umbrella thread from now on, please.
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Re: How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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I'd like to see Kamacuras with more bulk. The GFW design was stated to be made with Anguirus volleyball in mind but script ended up with them in different scenes. And they used rocks like hockey pucks in Showa era.
A bunch of Kamacuras attacking Godzilla like Hockey players with bad sportsmanship could be a very fun fight.

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Re: How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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Kamacuras in general have a great potential as a swarm monster honestly. Mantises are already creepy as hell in some cases, not to mention insanely fast while attacking- and utilizing that for a pack-hunting kaiju has a lot of cool merits.

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I had a weird idea yesterday of a tamed young or small species Baragon being used to clear debris and snow of railway tracks. Could work for a one-off animated feature or so about a more optimistic take on a "planet of monsters" where Humanity manages to adapt.

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Re: How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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eabaker wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 9:28 pm We do not need to build up dozens of different topics about how individual monsters might be presented. Just use this umbrella thread from now on, please.
It’s a fair deal.

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Re: How Could Past Monsters Be Revisited in the Reiwa Era?

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Rodan as an evolving creature would be totally rad. Maybe have him start out as some small lizard-like creature with flaps of skin on his limbs that he uses to glide from trees; and then as time goes on his forelimbs become wings and he evolves into a much larger, more Pteranodon-like form capable of fighting smaller Kaiju. Then he takes on a somewhat intermediate form where he starts to gain more classic "Rodan" traits—and then later he finally stands upright and turns into the Rodan we know and love. :Rodan56:
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 3:09 pm Rodan as an evolving creature would be totally rad. Maybe have him start out as some small lizard-like creature with flaps of skin on his limbs that he uses to glide from trees; and then as time goes on his forelimbs become wings and he evolves into a much larger, more Pteranodon-like form capable of fighting smaller Kaiju. Then he takes on a somewhat intermediate form where he starts to gain more classic "Rodan" traits—and then later he finally stands upright and turns into the Rodan we know and love. :Rodan56:
So basically, Shin Rodan.

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LegendZilla wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:26 pm How would you feel if they gave Mothra a similar arc to Liu Kang in the recent Mortal Kombat games? By that I mean a beacon of virtue falling to the dark side. I know it will be controversial with many, But I won't be opposed to it. You can argue that Battra already fills the niche of a dark version of Mothra, but I am thinking Mothra herself going down the path of darkness and corruption.
That doesn’t really sit right with me. To me, Mothra is a beacon of hope, incorruptible in resolve, soul and heart.
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