Did you even read my previous post?Legion1979 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:42 pmWhat exactly did Godzilla even do to Ghidorah in their first film together? At least Gamera can fly.
And Voyager...Godzilla was getting his butt kicked all over the place and could barely do ANYTHING until Rodan and Mothra teamed up.
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Yes. It doesn't change anything about what I said. Anything Godzilla did to help in that battle he was only able to do thanks to Rodan and Mothra. Ghidorah was making a fool of him throughout that fight.Voyager wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:54 pmDid you even read my previous post?Legion1979 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:42 pmWhat exactly did Godzilla even do to Ghidorah in their first film together? At least Gamera can fly.
And Voyager...Godzilla was getting his butt kicked all over the place and could barely do ANYTHING until Rodan and Mothra teamed up.
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Ok then, do you think the other two could have beaten him without Godzilla, if you so think Godzilla was useless to the effort?Legion1979 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:17 pmYes. It doesn't change anything about what I said. Anything Godzilla did to help in that battle he was only able to do thanks to Rodan and Mothra. Ghidorah was making a fool of him throughout that fight.Voyager wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:54 pmDid you even read my previous post?Legion1979 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:42 pm
What exactly did Godzilla even do to Ghidorah in their first film together? At least Gamera can fly.
And Voyager...Godzilla was getting his butt kicked all over the place and could barely do ANYTHING until Rodan and Mothra teamed up.
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Yes he kept him in place with Rodan and Mothra taking attention away from Ghidorah which Gamera should also be able to do. Ghidorah owned Godzilla in their first encounter one on one.Voyager wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:24 pmThat’s just blatant ignorance.miguelnuva wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 6:14 pmGodzilla didn't do much to Ghidorah in their first fight without Rodan and Mothra.
He was the strong man who grappled with Ghidorah and kept him in place for the webbing, and he was definitely who tussled with Ghidorah the most.
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No they couldn't have, the entire point of the film was Godzilla, Rodan and Mothra all had to fight together or Ghidorah wins. He arguably won in the next film when Mothra was gone. All three monsters played a part in beating Ghidorah.Voyager wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:20 pmOk then, do you think the other two could have beaten him without Godzilla, if you so think Godzilla was useless to the effort?Legion1979 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 7:17 pmYes. It doesn't change anything about what I said. Anything Godzilla did to help in that battle he was only able to do thanks to Rodan and Mothra. Ghidorah was making a fool of him throughout that fight.
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Gamera might be a better at the tank/distraction role than Godzilla against Ghidorah, but he's going to also be bleeding a lot more by the end unless he can absorb Ghidorah's beams.
Course there is a possibility that Ghidorah's beams may energize him while still damaging him, so Ghidorah will be fighting a giant scary bleeding turtle on stimulants. [ I've been translating Japanese stuff and the wording for Ghidorah's beams is the word for "attractive force" which can apply to either gravity or magnetism, and while by Heisei they decided on gravity beams, for Showa era I'm a bit unsure of creator intentions.]
Course there is a possibility that Ghidorah's beams may energize him while still damaging him, so Ghidorah will be fighting a giant scary bleeding turtle on stimulants. [ I've been translating Japanese stuff and the wording for Ghidorah's beams is the word for "attractive force" which can apply to either gravity or magnetism, and while by Heisei they decided on gravity beams, for Showa era I'm a bit unsure of creator intentions.]
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....what exactly would Ghidorah do to Gamera to make him bleed?
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Ghidorah's beams weren't drawing blood when they hit Godzilla, so I doubt they're going to make Gamera bleed. But I could see them knocking Gamera onto his back.
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Godzilla was knocked on his back and couldn't get up at times againts Ghidorah.edgaguirus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:44 pm Ghidorah's beams weren't drawing blood when they hit Godzilla, so I doubt they're going to make Gamera bleed. But I could see them knocking Gamera onto his back.
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Well, I mean Godzilla is almost certainly more durable than Gamera, but even then, the beams wouldn’t draw blood, it’s not what they do.edgaguirus wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 1:44 pm Ghidorah's beams weren't drawing blood when they hit Godzilla, so I doubt they're going to make Gamera bleed. But I could see them knocking Gamera onto his back.
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Another question: how well would Gamera do as an adoptive father to Minya?
...also I'm pretty sure those kids in Gamera vs Guiron die and Godzilla kills the alien ladies once they reach Earth if they are dumb enough to cause trouble.
...also I'm pretty sure those kids in Gamera vs Guiron die and Godzilla kills the alien ladies once they reach Earth if they are dumb enough to cause trouble.
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Considering how wacky 70's Godzilla got and how wacky Gamera is, Godzilla might just fly after the kids.
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Could Godzilla even defeat Zanon?
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He'd probably blast Zanon when he arrived on the planet.
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Or have Godzilla blow up the ship the same way he did Gorath in GFW.
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Zanon was the evil alien from Super Monster?
I hope Godzilla blasts them in one shot.
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In Brandon's cult movie reviews he's always bringing up that people forget about Gamera's rampage in his initial film. That wouldn't be the case if Godzilla were substituted. Rather than cheer on Gamera or insist he's a friend, those kids and adults would be running for the hills when Godzilla showed up, even if it's to kill an attacking kaiju.
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People were afraid of Godzilla up till 73 anyway. In Gigan they knew he and Angurius were the best chance of winning but the military was still worried about them.edgaguirus wrote: ↑Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:38 pm In Brandon's cult movie reviews he's always bringing up that people forget about Gamera's rampage in his initial film. That wouldn't be the case if Godzilla were substituted. Rather than cheer on Gamera or insist he's a friend, those kids and adults would be running for the hills when Godzilla showed up, even if it's to kill an attacking kaiju.
The main cast only cheered because they had been directly fighting the alien threat.
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