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Kong vs Rodan

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Leaning Kong here, despite having to deal with a flaming pterosaur bare-handed. He knows how to deal with flying foes, and while Rodan is no slouch either in close quarters combat, Kong is just a tad bit too much for him to handle...
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Kong should be able to win. Rodan’s main thing is his heat, and we know Kong can handle heat just fine considering how well he took being doused in napalm, so he can grab Rodan and beat him down.
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Yeah, Rodan's a spicy chicken wing but literally all Kong has to do is wring his neck for a bit to win.

And he can take the heat, given he tanked both napalm like GVR said and Godzilla's beam (even if that burned him)
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Kong has this. I think he can survive the heat of Rodan long enough to injure him or snap his neck, or if that fails and he gets dragged into the sky, he could still try hitting him enough to slam him into the land on the other side of the sky if they reach that far.
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On top of what's been mentioned, Kong was also unaffected when traveling down/up the molten pathway Godzilla made with his Atomic Breath. He can handle Rodan's body heat well enough, especially since the only real feat it has is scorching Mothra. Not that Kong even needs to wrestle with Rodan in the first place. Even if he discovers that Rodan's heat is too much to grapple with, he can just superman punch the Fire Demon out of the sky and just start wailing on him until he stops breathing. Either way, Rodan has virtually no killing power in this fight and Kong does. I give it to the ape titan.
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Where in the HELL are you people getting that Kong "tanked" the napalm in KSI? It rendered him unconscious in a matter of seconds. He did not tank it in any sense of the word. It wrecked his ass.
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Inferno Rodan wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:02 pm Where in the HELL are you people getting that Kong "tanked" the napalm in KSI? It rendered him unconscious in a matter of seconds. He did not tank it in any sense of the word. It wrecked his ass.
Because he was knocked out by lack of oxygen and was barely harmed by the actual napalm. It’s very clear in the movie itself and they literally say it in the GvK novel. Kong demonstrated great resistance to heat, which is what we’re referring to.
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GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:04 pm Because he was knocked out by lack of oxygen and was barely harmed by the actual napalm. It’s very clear in the movie itself and they literally say it in the GvK novel. Kong demonstrated great resistance to heat, which is what we’re referring to.
The novel is BS. Lack of oxygen does not render something unconscious in just a handful of seconds.
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All Kong has to do is punch Rodan in the face once and either the Fire Demon gets knocked out right then and there, or he bugs out and calls it even.
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Inferno Rodan wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:14 pm The novel is BS. Lack of oxygen does not render something unconscious in just a handful of seconds.
Good thing it wasn’t a “handful of seconds”. Kong didn’t go down for a full minute, and it’s not entirely unreasonable to say that being directly exposed to something as extremely noxious as napalm, for that long, would send you to the ground. Besides, it’s the best explanation for Kong losing consciousness like that. Heat certainly doesn’t K.O. things that fast, especially since Kong wasn’t burned enough for him to collapse from heat damage alone.
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Didn’t Rodan get utterly embarrassed by a single gravity bolt? Kong has this...
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EmperorGhidorah wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:15 pm Good thing it wasn’t a “handful of seconds”. Kong didn’t go down for a full minute, and it’s not entirely unreasonable to say that being directly exposed to something as extremely noxious as napalm, for that long, would send you to the ground. Besides, it’s the best explanation for Kong losing consciousness like that. Heat certainly doesn’t K.O. things that fast, especially since Kong wasn’t burned enough for him to collapse from heat damage alone.
It was 45 seconds between when the napalm was ignited and when Kong came out of it. He was out of the fire for and still fully conscious for over 10 seconds before he even started to pass out. His breathing wasn't labored or anything, and even if it was, again, he was no longer in the fire so there would be no lack of oxygen. And Kong wasn't burned enough? His body was literally smoking and there were glowing, smoldering spots all over him. He passed out from the pain.

It's absolutely hilarious how people will defend Kong on this shitty showing of durability and yet refuse to acknowledge Gwangi's toughness despite him surviving more than double the time in a near-identical-but-even-slightly-worse situation.
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Inferno Rodan wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:30 am It was 45 seconds between when the napalm was ignited and when Kong came out of it. He was out of the fire for and still fully conscious for over 10 seconds before he even started to pass out. His breathing wasn't labored or anything, and even if it was, again, he was no longer in the fire so there would be no lack of oxygen.
Being out of the fire itself doesn’t mean Kong’s body wasn’t still experiencing the noxious effects of the fumes that he had just inhaled in large amounts. He was probably still hiked up on adrenaline when he came stomping out of the flames, and once that rush subsided, his poisoned system shut down.
And Kong wasn't burned enough? His body was literally smoking and there were glowing, smoldering spots all over him. He passed out from the pain.
The bulk of those spots looked like the flames just singed his fur down, and Kong’s body was largely fine after the ordeal. Even if you want to argue he passed out from whatever injuries he did sustain, his body still walked away from full immersion in caustic napalm with no meaningful damage to show for it. That’s heat resistance on display.
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I'm leaning Rodan here myself. Kong isn't especially durable by kaiju standards. He got torn up by Godzilla's claws and it was heavily implied throughout their fight in the movie that a direct hit from the atomic breath would have been fatal for him. If we go by his K:SI showings, he was also sliced open by helicopter rotatory blades. Rodan's talons and beak are going to mess him up bad, even without Rodan's fire tossed into the mix.

Not to mention, the only flying opponents Kong faced were the incredibly slow moving and frail Nozuki. Not really his best showing, especially considering one of them almost killed him.
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EmperorGhidorah wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:48 pm Being out of the fire itself doesn’t mean Kong’s body wasn’t still experiencing the noxious effects of the fumes that he had just inhaled in large amounts. He was probably still hiked up on adrenaline when he came stomping out of the flames, and once that rush subsided, his poisoned system shut down.
It's pretty funny how the defense of Kong has shifted. First it was that he was being asphyxiated. Now it's that he was being poisoned by toxic fumes. Either way though, the fact of the matter is it happened far too quickly to be either of those. Also it's pretty pointless to bring up the adrenaline rush thing. Not only is it obvious that's what was keeping him going, but it also supports my argument just as much as it does yours. More so, really, considering one of the main things adrenaline does is dull pain, while it does absolutely nothing to help with asphyxiation or poisoning.
The bulk of those spots looked like the flames just singed his fur down, and Kong’s body was largely fine after the ordeal. Even if you want to argue he passed out from whatever injuries he did sustain, his body still walked away from full immersion in caustic napalm with no meaningful damage to show for it. That’s heat resistance on display.
He didn't walk away from it though. That's literally my entire problem with what you people are saying. He was rendered unconscious by it. You can nitpick about how much damage was actually inflicted all you want, but the facts remain was having a very bad time while he was in the middle of it and that it ultimately knocked his ass out.

Hell, guess what? Rodan took a full-on, direct hit from one of KG's Gravity beams. Using the exact same logic that you guys are when you say Kong "tanked" the napalm, Rodan "tanked" that Gravity beam. He just fell into the water and disappeared for several minutes afterward, no big deal.
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