Godzilla (Showa) vs Godzilla (Monsterverse)
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Godzilla (Showa) vs Godzilla (Monsterverse)
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Godzilla (Showa) VS Godzilla (Monsterverse)
Arena: Monster Island
Rules: MV’s size has been shrunk down to 60 meters and his weight to 50,000 tons. Showa’s weight has been increased to 30,000 and his height remains unchanged.
ToMG Showa Godzilla.
GvK MV Godzilla.
No retreat, not that either of these two would do so anyway.
Verdict: I personally fall towards the side of MV Godzilla. While Showa Godzilla is going to give MV a much harder fight than Kong did, and Showa has shown the capacity to hurl a foe twice his weight around with a relative ease, I think MV is just too tough of a nut to crack for Showa to win the day. MV’s beam is also going to be brutal on Showa for certain. Once MV goes apeshit on Showa like the former did to Kong, Showa is going to find himself too battered and bruised to keep fighting.
Godzilla (Showa) VS Godzilla (Monsterverse)
Arena: Monster Island
Rules: MV’s size has been shrunk down to 60 meters and his weight to 50,000 tons. Showa’s weight has been increased to 30,000 and his height remains unchanged.
ToMG Showa Godzilla.
GvK MV Godzilla.
No retreat, not that either of these two would do so anyway.
Verdict: I personally fall towards the side of MV Godzilla. While Showa Godzilla is going to give MV a much harder fight than Kong did, and Showa has shown the capacity to hurl a foe twice his weight around with a relative ease, I think MV is just too tough of a nut to crack for Showa to win the day. MV’s beam is also going to be brutal on Showa for certain. Once MV goes apeshit on Showa like the former did to Kong, Showa is going to find himself too battered and bruised to keep fighting.
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
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Re: Godzilla (Showa) vs Godzilla (Monsterverse)
Huh, i wonder what two users posts incited this match
My choice would be MV Goji, and not just because of my bias, but for all the reasons you listed
If this was anything but GvK Goji i would go with Showa...but MV’s huge increase in speed, power, atomic breath, etc etc puts him over the edge for me.
This, of course, won’t be an easy battle, not in the slightest, but eventually MV would come out on top
My choice would be MV Goji, and not just because of my bias, but for all the reasons you listed
If this was anything but GvK Goji i would go with Showa...but MV’s huge increase in speed, power, atomic breath, etc etc puts him over the edge for me.
This, of course, won’t be an easy battle, not in the slightest, but eventually MV would come out on top
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Re: Godzilla (Showa) vs Godzilla (Monsterverse)
Both Godzilla are strong, MV having stronger striking power while Showa has stronger grappling strength. Showa has the stronger beam, being able to destroy enemies at its strongest. Both are durable, but Showa went down from less so Showa is going to need to be careful. MV Goji has better endurance too being able fight for hours on end. It's tough, but I'd say MV Goji wins after a hard fought win.
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I personally vote Showa Godzilla. MonsterVerse Godzilla is a badass powerhouse, but Showa Godzilla is both incredibly fast and nimble, absurdly versatile in a whole assortment of ways, incredibly strong and every bit as tenacious as his Legendary counterpart, an absolute boss in melee combat, and has a healing factor on his side. MonsterVerse Godzilla would be a worthy opponent, but I don’t think it’d be too long before Showa turns the tables and gets MV on the ropes.
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As of GvK, MV Godzilla is basically just a better version of late Showa Godzilla. Showa will give him a hell of a fight, for sure, but I don't see any way for MV to realistically lose here.
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MV wins this match because of bad scaling. GvR put Showa at a disadvantage from the start, no offence dude. Showa is about half of MV’s weight and nearly 30 metres shorter than his opponent. If Showa was given the same stats as MV Goji, I believe Showa would win.
Actually, if they were equal in size, I think it would be unfair for MV
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^This
I'm definitely leaning towards MV Godzilla as well, but it has very little to do with his raw strength or fighting skills in a vacuum. Pound-for-pound, he's outright inferior to his Showa counterpart in the raw strength department, and I've never understood the argument people make about him using his strength more effectively than Showa Godzilla does. 70s Godzilla absolutely has an equally competent command over his own skillset and physicality.
But in this fight, Showa Godzilla is at a serious weight disadvantage. Combine that with the impressive melee presence that LPG is certainly bringing, and I doubt Showa Godzilla is going have the upper hand in close quarters for very long. On top of that, LPG's beam spamminess is going to be a pretty hard counter to his opponent's ability to close the distance in the first place, and his tougher hide means he can absorb the most strikes and keep slugging it out.
Ultimately, I see MV Godzilla winning this battle but, man, what an epic fight it would be.
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Oh sorry for not just saying that Showa is magically the same weight as something like 3 times bulkier than him even if they were the same height. As for the height disparity... I just assumed other Godzillas when they get put against MV aren’t the exact same height as him. We’ve had Heisei vs MV a few times in different ways, I never got the memo Heisei was increased to 120 meters in height during those.
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Yup, my dad works at Legendary, the Nebulans are gonna be in the next movie and they're gonna get beat because Madison throws coffee in the leaders face.
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These are fantasy matches after all. If I did this match I would’ve scaled them to be the same and no one would bat an eye.GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:23 pm Oh sorry for not just saying that Showa is magically the same weight as something like 3 times bulkier than him even if they were the same height.
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Will the admins shoot me in the face if I change the OP to just say “scaled” and leave it at that, or has not enough debate happened to where I can change the rules
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Yup, my dad works at Legendary, the Nebulans are gonna be in the next movie and they're gonna get beat because Madison throws coffee in the leaders face.
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Ask someone like... looks at online list... Soggy!GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:29 pm Will the admins shoot me in the face if I change the OP to just say “scaled” and leave it at that, or has not enough debate happened to where I can change the rules
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Kong was only slightly taller then this and he was laying into Godzilla for almost an entire night until Godzilla stopped playing around.Voyager wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:12 pm MV wins this match because of bad scaling. GvR put Showa at a disadvantage from the start, no offence dude. Showa is about half of MV’s weight and nearly 30 metres shorter than his opponent. If Showa was given the same stats as MV Goji, I believe Showa would win.
It's not the size, it's how you use it.
And that doesn't really matter here because Showa's best will only piss off and make GVK hit harder but you know. Just saying.
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Voyager wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:30 pmAsk someone like... looks at online list... Soggy!GodzillavsRayquaza wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:29 pm Will the admins shoot me in the face if I change the OP to just say “scaled” and leave it at that, or has not enough debate happened to where I can change the rules
Just as I was typing lmao.
Yeah, I don't care. Go nuts. I think the no editing a match after posting rule is stupid anyhow.
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I still really don’t get the argument Showa can’t use his strength as well as MV or Kong, when he definitely can, and in some cases, could use it better than those two.
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I’m torn here, I feel like I’d just be deciding the fight here and now. Obviously Showa’s pound for pound stronger, man’s hurling twice his weight over his shoulder like it’s a sack of shit. That’s why he’s lighter here, to equalize things. For the record, if I had just put “scaled” in the OP in the first place, these stats for Showa are what I would have assumed anyway. But clearly that’s not what everyone would have assumed.
I think I have a compromise that’ll work?
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There. Much closer in height and weight without Showa being too disadvantaged in either, but not compromising on this strange hill I’ve chosen to die on of keeping this fight between fictional dinosaurs logical in terms of scaling damnit!
I think I have a compromise that’ll work?
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There. Much closer in height and weight without Showa being too disadvantaged in either, but not compromising on this strange hill I’ve chosen to die on of keeping this fight between fictional dinosaurs logical in terms of scaling damnit!
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Yup, my dad works at Legendary, the Nebulans are gonna be in the next movie and they're gonna get beat because Madison throws coffee in the leaders face.
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I don’t know why, but for some reason I find something strangely... ... ...pleasant about this particular match. Whether it’s sheer nostalgia or something else, I can’t put my finger on it.
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The salt. It’s the copious amount of saltShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:53 pm I don’t know why, but for some reason I find something strangely... ... ...pleasant about this particular match. Whether it’s sheer nostalgia or something else, I can’t put my finger on it.
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Tough call. Can certainly go either way. I am just going to throw it in for Showa just because he seems to pull weird powers out of nowhere specifically for who he is facing. I have no idea what it would be against another Godzilla but I am sure he'd think of something.
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70s G hasn't dealt with the same aggression that GvK Godzilla dishes out. It's not so much about the weight than it is about how it's thrown around. If MVG can pounce on Showa G there really isn't much Showa can do to get up unless he fires off some beams. How many times have we seen Showa get pummeled on the ground? It's like if you put Conor Mcgregor in the ring with Jon Jones, Conor may be nimble and hands-on, but Jonny Jones is just the more dominant fighter (plus a whole 2 weight classes heavier).
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Showa as of the version used has only been “pummeled on the ground” by Titanosaurus, and insanely strong kaiju, but Goji wasn’t even hurt._JNavs_ wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 7:11 pm 70s G hasn't dealt with the same aggression that GvK Godzilla dishes out. It's not so much about the weight than it is about how it's thrown around. If MVG can pounce on Showa G there really isn't much Showa can do to get up unless he fires off some beams. How many times have we seen Showa get pummeled on the ground? It's like if you put Conor Mcgregor in the ring with Jon Jones, Conor may be nimble and hands-on, but Jonny Jones is just the more dominant fighter (plus a whole 2 weight classes heavier).
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Part of it is probably just the fact that no matter which one you side with, there’s no denying this would be an absolute barn burner of a showdown to witness.ShinGojira14 wrote: ↑Tue May 18, 2021 6:53 pm I don’t know why, but for some reason I find something strangely... ... ...pleasant about this particular match. Whether it’s sheer nostalgia or something else, I can’t put my finger on it.
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ShinGojira14 wrote: Neither. Hideki Anno wins because he writes a hilarious comedic satire movie where Shin and Legendary have to team up to destroy a grotesque crap-monster created by the constant toxic bickering of Shin fans and Legendary fans.
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Yup, my dad works at Legendary, the Nebulans are gonna be in the next movie and they're gonna get beat because Madison throws coffee in the leaders face.