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Anytime there's a new monsterverse film on the horizon I find myself not rewatching old godzilla or Kong films but the incomparable Gamera trilogy instead.

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Ordered the steelbook of the Gamera trilogy (cheaper than the Gamera trilogy + the Brave release). Will hopefully snag the Showa era one of these coming days.
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I've only seen The Brave (which I didn't enjoy) & the 90s Gamera Trilogy (which might be my favorite giant monster film next to Pacific Rim). Are there any other must-see similar-in-quality Gamera films?

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Elytron Frass wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:43 am I've only seen The Brave (which I didn't enjoy) & the 90s Gamera Trilogy (which might be my favorite giant monster film next to Pacific Rim). Are there any other must-see similar-in-quality Gamera films?
The showa Gamera series overall is inferior to the showa Godzilla series, but there’s still some fun to be had. Gammera the Invincible is fine, and vs Barugon and Gyaos are just decent monster flicks. Vs Jiger is good too!
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vs. Guiron is probably my personal favorite Showa entry. It's... maybe not for everyone, though. :lol: It's very much a children's film, lighthearted, goofy, and whimsical. A lot of fun, but there's nothing serious, grounded, or realistic about it. It does have one of the most shockingly violent kaiju battles in the genre, though, amusingly enough.
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When it comes to Showa Gamera flicks, I definitely favor the more out-there entries. The back-to-back entries Viras, Guiron and Jiger are solidly my favorites.
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I can see why Gyaos is a lot of people's favorite...but I like Barugon for the budget and writing, Guiron for being out there and Jiger for being the right balance of kids, adventure and neat monster.
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daveblackeye15 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 11:34 am I can see why Gyaos is a lot of people's favorite...but I like Barugon for the budget and writing, Guiron for being out there and Jiger for being the right balance of kids, adventure and neat monster.
Barugon is my favorite Showa Gamera movie, and Guiron my favorite monster (outside the big turtle himself).
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Baragon might be one of the best showa kaiju films period.
You can put it on my Tombstone Mothra vs Godzilla> Gojira
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I used to hate Viras, but I realized over time I like the final fight a lot. Viras is a uniquish looking monster and doesn't have as typical of a "dinosaurian design". All the Showa Gamera vs. Gamera films have some fun moments if you can get through some of the sloggish childish elements. The only one not worth watching, and probably the only Kaiju film I'd actively say is fine to skip over, is "Gamera the Super Monster", though it's a bit trippy enough to watch too.

Basically all the Showa Gamera entries are worth watching, especially if you've already seen all the Godzilla films. The only thing I'd advise, is to make sure you get a nice copy, dubbed or not. I used to really dislike the Showa Gamera series, just based on watching them off of cheap DVD's with poor video quality.

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miguelnuva wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 3:53 pm Baragon might be one of the best showa kaiju films period.
I really appreciate the unique imagery of Baurgon and Gamera near the castle, with the entire place covered in snow. The film is filled with unique visuals.
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I think Gamera vs Gaos is the best Showa Gamera film, even factoring in how Barugon's superior production translated to the screen. IMO, Gaos is the only rival to concurrent Godzilla flicks, although even then it doesn't best any of them.

I think all eight Showa Gamera movies are fun in their own ways, but it's really clear that the FX unit--even with the resources given Barugon--weren't practiced enough to compete with Tsuburaya's team at Toho.
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Oh man that strangely reminds me how Yuasa sounded gleeful that when the American occupying force saw some of Tsuburaya's movies they thought it was real war footage. "Ha ha his work is so good they think that's real battle footage! What a loser!' Yuasa is quite a character and you wouldn't have to change much if there was a manga centering around him making the Gamera movies. Gamera Sousei (Genesis). So like Gundam Genesis https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ ... ndamSousei

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daveblackeye15 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:53 pm Oh man that strangely reminds me how Yuasa sounded gleeful that when the American occupying force saw some of Tsuburaya's movies they thought it was real war footage. "Ha ha his work is so good they think that's real battle footage! What a loser!'
Yuasa might have believed that but I bet that old Tsuburaya story is apocryphal.
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Can't remember where I heard it with the big Arrow release since I was binging lots of that stuff.

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I've always said the Japanese have great imaginations when it comes to making prehistoric and/or alien monsters and the Showa Gamera series is the prime example of this.

In fact, when I look at them, I sometimes think to myself "What were they smoking when they made up these monsters?" Hey, admit it, we've all thought this at one time or another.

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mikelcho wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:05 pm I've always said the Japanese have great imaginations when it comes to making prehistoric and/or alien monsters and the Showa Gamera series is the prime example of this.

In fact, when I look at them, I sometimes think to myself "What were they smoking when they made up these monsters?" Hey, admit it, we've all thought this at one time or another.
It was the 60s and 70s, so they had their choice of drugs man. Weed, acid, coke, peyote...I'm told it was a crazy time back then.
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Showa Gamera had some memorable foes. Gyoas, Barugon, and Jiger were well designed and executed, but Guiron takes the prize for creative design. Whoever had the idea of turning a knife into a kaiju was either genius or weird. Either way, Guiron was one of his more lethal enemies.
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I've found that the ones who don't smoke anything tend to have the craziest ideas.
I can about guarantee whomever designed Guiron was stone sober.
As a matter of fact I'm betting they were...
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mikelcho wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:05 pm I've always said the Japanese have great imaginations when it comes to making prehistoric and/or alien monsters and the Showa Gamera series is the prime example of this.

In fact, when I look at them, I sometimes think to myself "What were they smoking when they made up these monsters?" Hey, admit it, we've all thought this at one time or another.
I think that's one of Showa Gamera's strong points. They can perfectly embody just how bonkers a child's imagination can be.
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If the Showa collection is still available come May, I'm getting it. But first, Showa Godzilla collection from Criterion while it's still available...
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