The Alien and Predator Discussion Thread

[Mac Daddy MM]

Can't wait for Prey, eager to see not only much needed Native American representation but a more down to Earth Predator film. We definitely need this after Shane Black made the worst film in the franchise.

Yeah... I still can't believe a guy who was in the very first Predator film did that.

[MechaGoji Bro7503]

Can't wait for Prey, eager to see not only much needed Native American representation but a more down to Earth Predator film. We definitely need this after Shane Black made the worst film in the franchise.

Yeah... I still can't believe a guy who was in the very first Predator film did that.

Honestly. Whenever Hawkins bites the dust in the original I now cheer

[Maverick Centigrade]

Can't wait for Prey, eager to see not only much needed Native American representation but a more down to Earth Predator film. We definitely need this after Shane Black made the worst film in the franchise.

Yeah... I still can't believe a guy who was in the very first Predator film did that.

Initially I was hyped that Shane Black was the director. I thought to myself "He played Hawkins and helped on the script, surely he would know what makes a great Predator film".

And then we all know what happened. What happened with The Predator makes me think of the scene where Dutch yells at Dillon "You set us up!"

[ShinGojira14]

I'd agree with Crimson. Nothing so far gives me a negative view of the film. The director did a prenominal job with his last film and the premise seems like what everyone has been wanting the franchise to do (AKA, place a predator at different points in history). Main thing I'm really hoping for is a Predator vs. Bear fight.

I've heard people talk about this, but I just cannot wrap my head around it;

Out of all the things for the Predator—the skreeonking PREDATOR—to fight, what's so special about a mere bear?

[Greyshot151]

Because bears are 1-ton killing machines. What's better? A lion? A crocodile? A gorilla? Next to a dinosaur or sasquatch, the bear is probably the best all round combatant a predator can find on this planet.

[LegendZilla]

It would take a miracle for this new Predator movie to actually turn out any good.

[Maverick Centigrade]

It would take a miracle for this new Predator movie to actually turn out any good.

So far the movies strongest point is the director.

[Spuro]

It would take a miracle for this new Predator movie to actually turn out any good.

Yeah, after the 2018 disaster I've lost all hope for the Predator series.

[Maverick Centigrade]

I'd agree with Crimson. Nothing so far gives me a negative view of the film. The director did a prenominal job with his last film and the premise seems like what everyone has been wanting the franchise to do (AKA, place a predator at different points in history). Main thing I'm really hoping for is a Predator vs. Bear fight.

I've heard people talk about this, but I just cannot wrap my head around it;

Out of all the things for the Predator—the skreeonking PREDATOR—to fight, what's so special about a mere bear?

A mere bear? Bro they're the largest land carnivore and can take your head off with one good swipe of their claws. They're a brilliant match up against the Predator.

[GodzillaFan1990's]

A mere bear? Bro they're the largest land carnivore and can take your head off with one good swipe of their claws. They're a brilliant match up against the Predator.

A bear is nothing but breakfast compared to much more dangerous alien lifeforms the yautja has hunted. That's nothing to them.

[LegendZilla]

A mere bear? Bro they're the largest land carnivore and can take your head off with one good swipe of their claws. They're a brilliant match up against the Predator.

A bear is nothing but breakfast compared to much more dangerous alien lifeforms the yautja has hunted. That's nothing to them.

If a human can put up a good fight against a Predator, so can any apex terrestrial predator (no pun intended).

[GodzillaFan1990's]

If a human can put up a good fight against a Predator, so can any apex terrestrial predator (no pun intended).

The difference is humans are smart and strategic. The humans that the yautjas faced in the films had to use their wits to beat them. Why do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger's character had to keep running away from the yautja in the first film because he'd be no match in a physical fight hand to hand.

[Greyshot151]

If a human can put up a good fight against a Predator, so can any apex terrestrial predator (no pun intended).

The difference is humans are smart and strategic. The humans that the yautjas faced in the films had to use their wits to beat them. Why do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger's character had to keep running away from the yautja in the first film because he'd be no match in a physical fight hand to hand.

I'm not saying the Predator wouldn't win, but I think you're looking at this as if a predator would be hunting a bear. I don't think they would as they aren't intelligent enough to deploy the same tactics as humans. What they make up for a lack of intelligence is brute force, and I do think that just like people have different tastes, its not unreasonable to think that a Predator, who wants to fight the strongest beasts on a planet to prove physical superiority instead of other superiority, would fight a bear 1v1 without killing it at a long-range. Think instead of a plasma caster, just the metal claws and armor.

Its also not crazy to think humans, especially native americans, could trick the predator in fighting a bear or leading it to a bear, resulting in an unexpected fight. Sure the Predator has plenty of vicious weapons, but if he's caught off-guard, it be a sure convenient way in the film to disable the plasma caster or do some real physical damage against the alien before the bear goes down.

[Maritonic]

A dude with a katana was able to kill one of these super elite hunters just with a little swordplay. While a bear may not put up a huge strategic fight, a bear against an inexperienced hunter would be nothing short of entertaining.

[Maverick Centigrade]

A dude with a katana was able to kill one of these super elite hunters just with a little swordplay. While a bear may not put up a huge strategic fight, a bear against an inexperienced hunter would be nothing short of entertaining.

As cool as that little sword duel was, looking back. I don't think the Falconer Predator should have gone down that easily from such a cut. I mean we didn't see his guts spill out, so I can't imagine it was that deep.

The City Hunter in Predator 2 got shot with a shotgun 9 times at near point blank range, and still lived long enough to keep fighting and heal himself.

[Maritonic]

A dude with a katana was able to kill one of these super elite hunters just with a little swordplay. While a bear may not put up a huge strategic fight, a bear against an inexperienced hunter would be nothing short of entertaining.

As cool as that little sword duel was, looking back. I don't think the Falconer Predator should have gone down that easily from such a cut. I mean we didn't see his guts spill out, so I can't imagine it was that deep.

The City Hunter in Predator 2 got shot with a shotgun 9 times at near point blank range, and still lived long enough to keep fighting and heal himself.

Oh no, fully agree. I hate that kill, and wasn't trying to say it's a high point of the franchise lol. But, it still exists in the canon. So moving forward, a fight between an inexperienced hunter and a huge bear doesn't sound so ridiculous.

[Mac Daddy MM]

Oh hell yes. Seeing a Predator armed with only hand-to-hand weapons taking on an apex predator (pun) like a bear would be a real treat if done right. You can't really compare how a bear would fight compared to how Arnie did it in the 80s, especially if its a momma bear protecting her cubs. You also got to remember that certain aspects of the Predators, like their cloaking, won't be as effective against certain animals because they can follow scent trails much better than any human can.

Honestly thinking about it... I'm not 100% convinced a Predator would survive an encounter with a pissed off grizzly bear without the use of any explosive, plasma, or general BS weaponry beyond claws.

[Kaltes-Herzeleid]

lol, I remember in one of the Predator novels I have they were literally killing bears for fun.

[Thatguy4683]

lol, I remember in one of the Predator novels I have they were literally killing bears for fun.

Don’t they just kill for sport in general

[ShinGojira14]

If a human can put up a good fight against a Predator, so can any apex terrestrial predator (no pun intended).

The difference is humans are smart and strategic. The humans that the yautjas faced in the films had to use their wits to beat them. Why do you think Arnold Schwarzenegger's character had to keep running away from the yautja in the first film because he'd be no match in a physical fight hand to hand.

I'm not saying the Predator wouldn't win, but I think you're looking at this as if a predator would be hunting a bear. I don't think they would as they aren't intelligent enough to deploy the same tactics as humans. What they make up for a lack of intelligence is brute force, and I do think that just like people have different tastes, its not unreasonable to think that a Predator, who wants to fight the strongest beasts on a planet to prove physical superiority instead of other superiority, would fight a bear 1v1 without killing it at a long-range. Think instead of a plasma caster, just the metal claws and armor.

Its also not crazy to think humans, especially native americans, could trick the predator in fighting a bear or leading it to a bear, resulting in an unexpected fight. Sure the Predator has plenty of vicious weapons, but if he's caught off-guard, it be a sure convenient way in the film to disable the plasma caster or do some real physical damage against the alien before the bear goes down.

Well… … …it does sound a lot more entertaining than some of the other fights the Predator comics have given us.

I’ll admit, I think seeing a Predator go wrist blade-to-clawed hand with a boar Kodiak Bear would be much cooler to see than, say, a Predator duking it out with a giant white dudebro on steroids.

Looking at you, Predator: Fire and Stone.