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I disagree, I feel a hybrid should only be if the characters are interchangeable (Like many FW monsters) where as Zilla Jr. is a distantly different character than his father in terms of character, abilities and personality. On top of literally fighting his cyborg daddy.
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Well, aren't the Zillas all interchangeable? Their looks are gonna be the same when describing them just like the Final Wars/Showa hybrid monsters, and at the end of the day, that what determines hybrids.

Not saying they're different characters, just by definition, they don't count as different enough to be hybrids.

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Also, there's the whole "legally Junior doesn't exist anymore" wrinkle.....
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SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:28 pm Well, aren't the Zillas all interchangeable? Their looks are gonna be the same when describing them just like the Final Wars/Showa hybrid monsters, and at the end of the day, that what determines hybrids.

Not saying they're different characters, just by definition, they don't count as different enough to be hybrids.

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Also, there's the whole "legally Junior doesn't exist anymore" wrinkle.....
Because apart from looking "kinda" similar in that they are the same species, Zilla Jr. and the regular Zilla are nothing alike. In how they act, in fighting style, even with Jr. having a more diverse movepool. Not to mention Jr. literally fights his "father" in the series.
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godjacob wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:57 pm
SoggyNoodles2016 wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:28 pm Well, aren't the Zillas all interchangeable? Their looks are gonna be the same when describing them just like the Final Wars/Showa hybrid monsters, and at the end of the day, that what determines hybrids.

Not saying they're different characters, just by definition, they don't count as different enough to be hybrids.

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Also, there's the whole "legally Junior doesn't exist anymore" wrinkle.....
Because apart from looking "kinda" similar in that they are the same species, Zilla Jr. and the regular Zilla are nothing alike. In how they act, in fighting style, even with Jr. having a more diverse movepool.
....again, hybridization is based on looks.

As in, we describe these characters the same way for both, let's not make things difficult and have both.

Those are all things that describe Zilla's personality and actions depending on incarnation, but NOT his appearance.

Which is the same as his pops and the 2004 incarnation.

Not to mention, as I pointed out before, the character of Godzilla Jr from GTS has stopped existing so writing a incarnation of Zilla like this is literally the best we got.
Not to mention Jr. literally fights his "father" in the series.
This has nothing to do with anything. Not only is his father on the roster, but it has nothing to do with making him a new incarnation.
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godjacob wrote: Tue May 18, 2021 6:57 pm Because apart from looking "kinda" similar in that they are the same species, Zilla Jr. and the regular Zilla are nothing alike. In how they act, in fighting style, even with Jr. having a more diverse movepool. Not to mention Jr. literally fights his "father" in the series.
There is always the option to just get rid of how we combined the characters, but then we’d need to make a slot for G’98 and shift all the Zilla wins and losses that belong to Junior or G’98 to that specific slot, redo all the banners and match names, and then by that point try not to get sued by Japanese Toho Lawyers or something like that again. By that point it would just be easier to either keep them all in one slot, or just get rid of the other interpretations including Junior for only FW/Rulers of Earth Zilla.
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Zilla Jr. may be a different character, but he's part of the same species / close enough in appearance to warrant being under the Zilla name. By technicality, Zilla I think was the KWC's first hybrid, but that was during the Tom/Christian era, well before our time. I can understand wanting to separate him by nature of character, but at this point it's too far-gone. While characterization helps in being distinct, it's not exclusively the only aspect that makes something a separate character.
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KaijuX wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:10 am Zilla Jr. may be a different character, but he's part of the same species / close enough in appearance to warrant being under the Zilla name. By technicality, Zilla I think was the KWC's first hybrid, but that was during the Tom/Christian era, well before our time. I can understand wanting to separate him by nature of character, but at this point it's too far-gone. While characterization helps in being distinct, it's not exclusively the only aspect that makes something a separate character.
Guess we’ll never get a Zilla Jr vs Final Wars Zilla match up...

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Ultragodzillafan wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:43 am
Guess we’ll never get a Zilla Jr vs Final Wars Zilla match up...
You can, on a technically.


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Ultragodzillafan wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:43 am
KaijuX wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 2:10 am Zilla Jr. may be a different character, but he's part of the same species / close enough in appearance to warrant being under the Zilla name. By technicality, Zilla I think was the KWC's first hybrid, but that was during the Tom/Christian era, well before our time. I can understand wanting to separate him by nature of character, but at this point it's too far-gone. While characterization helps in being distinct, it's not exclusively the only aspect that makes something a separate character.
Guess we’ll never get a Zilla Jr vs Final Wars Zilla match up...
Just like how we'll never get a proper "Male MUTO vs. Female MUTO" or "Showa Gigan vs. Millennium Gigan" match up. Just one of those things we'll have to accept and move forward with.
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MoarCrossovers wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:56 am
Ultragodzillafan wrote: Wed May 19, 2021 10:43 am
Guess we’ll never get a Zilla Jr vs Final Wars Zilla match up...
You can, on a technically.


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Actually, now that I'm recalling the rules, you can't. You're limited to only one adult Zilla per match. Sorry.
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