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Spirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:45 am snip
I gave my reasons so I'm good on my end.

If people have a problem with that that's fine.

Also I call them smug dicks just as much as the vaccinated sling crap as well saying things like "fucking idiots", "nutcases", "crazies" etc, etc so I guess we're on even grounds with that one.

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Why don't we shift gears to a different topic all together?
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Maritonic wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:56 am Why don't we shift gears to a different topic all together?
I mean no offense, but this conversation is a little too important to be shut down just because goji89 is getting aggressive. I'd prefer eliminating as much doubt as possible, if not for the people I'm debating against, then at least for whoever may be reading this. If that gets me a warning, so be it. It'll be well worth it.
Major sssspielberg! wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:03 am Well not everyone trusts "trusted sources." The pharmaceutical industry, American healthcare system, and frankly most doctors I've met are nowhere near above reproach. It doesn't help that if one even dares to wonder if the vaccine is fully safe they typically get chased out of town with pitchforks. (Though I understand that unfortunately most people who question the safety of the vax aren't interested in conversation.)

Myself and many people I know have got by just fine wearing masks and being hygienic. What really pissed me off was all the people who got the vax and suddenly decided covid was over, went around everywhere without a mask, and now are bitching that they have to mask up again. I think it was silly for Fauci to try and incentivize people to get the vax with the promise of it being safe to take the mask off, and it's a good example of people maybe trusting their "trusted sources" too far.
Fauci's just one man. Back in April I worked volunteer hours at a Covid Vaccine clinic. Every single doctor there would advise people in advance that they should still wear masks and socially distance even after getting two doses of the vaccine. My parents, both of whom are doctors, also press that advice. Even if you decide to "do your own research" and look up the question on google, you'll find multiple respected sources advising the same.

At the end of the day, it's about trusting medical professionals during a global crisis. And when most medical professionals around the globe – not just in America – are pressing for people to get vaccinated, then what's more likely? That there's some big global conspiracy? Or that the vaccines are shown to be safe and effective at drastically reducing the risk of severe illness from Covid? I must stress again, both of my parents are doctors. They pressed me, my siblings, and my extended family to get the vaccine as early as we possibly could. Shouldn't that show that there's no ulterior motive at play?
Spirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:45 am
goji89 wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:32 am Yes, I find it hard to believe that this shot is safe given that people still die from Covid even when they are fully vaccinated.
While fully vaccinated people can die of covid, that's not a reason to not get the vaccine. Especially since the data shows a significant reduction in mortality for vaccinated individuals compared to vaccinated individuals.

It's like saying people die in car crashes despite buckling their seat belts, so I shouldn't wear a seat belt. I mean, even Donald Trump (who touted the myth of vaccines causing autism) had the wherewithall to take the shot.
You did a good job of countering most of goji89's points, but I wanted to add something to this.

Studies show that for every 1,000 people who received a double dose of the vaccine, only two contracted severe cases of Covid-19.

The vaccine doesn't make you immune, that's true. It doesn't guarantee your safety. But it's pretty damn effective at reducing the risk of hospitalization or death.

This is a plea directed towards anyone who may be reading this: If you're still on the fence, please consider vaccinating. Do this not just for yourself, but for the sake of your friends, your family, and your children. Especially your children, who aren't protected if they're under twelve years of age. Especially your children, who ARE at risk of dying from covid, or developing long-term complications. There's no good reason not to vaccinate.
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Last time; new topic or the warnings will fly.

By now people have their opinion. Want to fight in private? Go ahead. But I'd rather not wake up to yet another flame war between the same 4 or 5 users.

New discussion.
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I will only add this in as a final word, to explain why Goji89 and Major will be given warnings for this:

Yes, no one is above reproach. No one is flawless, no one truly knows everything. That's a fact, but given the current state of Covid and the pandemic as a whole, and the effects which are taking countless lives in areas like the Deep South where such rhetoric against the vaccine is widespread and prevalent, it is asinine to not trust the people who's jobs and careers are built upon studying illnesses and trying to prevent people from dying to them. To try and downplay that sort of thing, to downplay what measures should be taken against Covid, is extremely dangerous and liable to getting people in dangerous situations and killed. It is what got Mandasaurus and Omega banned from this website. You don't want to take the vaccine, you want to stay an antivaxxer? You do you. But on a place like this where someone can be influenced by the words of others and likely end up in a bad situation because of it, such discussion will not be tolerated. If either of you two, Major or Goji89 have an issue with it, you can PM me personally, no need to drag down discussion threads with it. If you want to argue against someone else like Spuro over it, take it to the PM's. No need to clutter up the actual thread discussions about it.

That is all I have to say. Now, as Maritonic requested, let us move to a different subject matter.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/larry-elder- ... 27765.html

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Anti-vaxxers harass and vandalize mobile COVID vaccine clinics in Colorado, forcing 3 of them off the street
So now the "my body my choice crowd" is denying choices for people who want to get vaccines. Excellent.

Texas lawmaker attempts to defend abortion ban by saying "Even the Taliban oppose abortion".
It's heartwarming to see Republicans admiring fundamentalist terrorists. The ironic thing is that fundamental Islam actually allows abortion up to 120 days (4 months). So Texas is literally worse than the Taliban in this regard. Congrats?
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/aoc-says-rep ... 00085.html

Heard it hear folks.

If you're Pro-life then guess what, you're part of "rape culture" I guess.

But I guess only Republicans can say stupid things :roll:

I'll add this, BOTH sides can have some pretty fucked up takes on this matter.
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Texas governer claims new abortion law won't force rape victims to give birth because he will "eliminate all rape" in Texas
Wow, bold strategy there, Mr. Abbott. Ending all rape. Maybe you can start by working on the over 6,000 back-logged rape kits that are backlogged in Texas?

Also, if you said you were gonna "end all rape" now, why didn't you do that from the beginning of your term? Or is that another empty promise with as much credibility as "Mexico will pay for the wall"?

AOC breaks down basic biology after Gov. Greg Abbott said women raped in Texas had 6 weeks to get an abortion
This just in: right-wing lawmakers don't know jack shit about elementary science. In other news, grass is green.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-lawmaker ... 00382.html

Guess this won't fit the narrative of the "evil" GOP.

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The Biden administration is gearing up to sue Texas over its abortion legislation, a new report says
My prediction is that this will go all the way up to the SCOTUS, and then the SCOTUS weasels will finally have to go on the record without resorting to their Shadow Dockett bullshit.

France to give free access to contraception for women aged up to 25
Huh, imagine that. A way to curb teen pregnancies/abortions that doesn't involve allowing rapists to sue their victims. What a concept! Too bad a program like that would be shot down here because socialism bad.
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goji89 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 7:10 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/aoc-says-rep ... 00085.html

Heard it hear folks.

If you're Pro-life then guess what, you're part of "rape culture" I guess.

But I guess only Republicans can say stupid things :roll:

I'll add this, BOTH sides can have some pretty skreeonked up takes on this matter.
I love how in your own article that is not what AOC says. She says the law controlling a woman's body feels similar to sexual assult which takes control of someone's body from them.

It never once says Pro life is like rape culture. She said the actions of the law are similar to rape culture.

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goji89 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:21 am https://www.yahoo.com/news/gop-lawmaker ... 00382.html

Guess this won't fit the narrative of the "evil" GOP.
1. It is impossible in politics for 1 side to be fully good or fully evil. The GOP that blindly.follow Trump were the problem.

2. Secondly this new act in combination with the Texas law will still be fucked up. No you can't have an abortion but we'll give you some money in exchange for your choice. This feels like the ending of splice.

This act would be great but it feels like it's being used as a crutch for taking away choice that the red states want to do.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/la-sheriff-l ... 00767.html

I'm glad this is getting attention.

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Not to armchair mod or anything, but Goji89, Spirit Ghidorah, I really think you two need a bit of a break from this thread...
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Yeah, I'm gonna actual mod for a second here. Guys, this thread is not for tit-for-tat political bickering. Post about current events, share your opinions respectfully and thoughtfully; but don't antagonize anyone, and don't engage in one-upsmanship.

If you do choose to editorialize, maybe think of how to posit a case that will change other people's minds; try to avoid swipes and snipes at the other side.
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goji89 wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 8:34 pm https://www.yahoo.com/news/la-sheriff-l ... 00767.html

I'm glad this is getting attention.
Translation, if the Black person involved in the incident is a republican about to grab power we must get up in arms and ask why Democrats haven't made a statement despite doing the same when the roles are reversed.
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Spirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 8:14 am Texas High School’s First Black Principal Suspended Because White Parents Say He Promotes Critical Race Theory

I wonder how the "cancel culture is unacceptable" crowd will think of this...

Ivermectin Poisoning On The Rise In Oklahoma As Right-Wing Vouches For Horse Dewormer Against COVID-19

First fish tank cleaner, then UV rays/disinfectant, now this. Please get vaccinated.
Look, as someone of the left I find myself sometimes a little too excited to jump on a story like this and I did actually. It is not surprising to me that something like that would happen. Well it has happened before, but not in this particular instance.
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This is why I don't like big corporate media. I don't think they are "biased" to the left as much as the right claims, so much as biased to corporate interests. When retractions do get issued by these corporate media guys they never get the steam the original story did. This thread is further proof of that. It is a basic of journalism to verify your information. Rolling Stone did not do that. Sloppy corporate media just give the right ammunition to call them fake news by doing stuff like this. Oh did I mention I don't like big corporate media? :lol:

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Giratina93 wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:10 am I will only add this in as a final word, to explain why Goji89 and Major will be given warnings for this:

Yes, no one is above reproach. No one is flawless, no one truly knows everything. That's a fact, but given the current state of Covid and the pandemic as a whole, and the effects which are taking countless lives in areas like the Deep South where such rhetoric against the vaccine is widespread and prevalent, it is asinine to not trust the people who's jobs and careers are built upon studying illnesses and trying to prevent people from dying to them. To try and downplay that sort of thing, to downplay what measures should be taken against Covid, is extremely dangerous and liable to getting people in dangerous situations and killed. It is what got Mandasaurus and Omega banned from this website. You don't want to take the vaccine, you want to stay an antivaxxer? You do you. But on a place like this where someone can be influenced by the words of others and likely end up in a bad situation because of it, such discussion will not be tolerated. If either of you two, Major or Goji89 have an issue with it, you can PM me personally, no need to drag down discussion threads with it. If you want to argue against someone else like Spuro over it, take it to the PM's. No need to clutter up the actual thread discussions about it.

That is all I have to say. Now, as Maritonic requested, let us move to a different subject matter.
I get what you are saying, but can you really categorize Goji89's comments as dangerous? I don't think anyone on this forum has any real influence over the general population. I hope I don't get warned or anything for this as a 20+ year user of the forum. I don't mean to disrespect your authority on this forum, but I think you are attributing influence where this is none. I don't think anyone is dying from posts on a Godzilla forum, and I don't think we should pretend that they are. Again, I don't mean to be disrespectful, but it seems a little harsh in my opinion.

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