What Gets On Your Nerves 2, The Thread Without a Witty Subtitle!

[ROMG4]

Been out of the TK loop for a while. Been doing most of my Godzilla talk on Facebook as of late. While there's still some dopes on there, I've noticed that I like the discussion better on there than on a message board type environment. It seems when you have a discussion with actual people with their real names as opposed to anonymous screen names the convos seem to be less hostile and passive aggressive. I still think TK serves a purpose but I can see why the message board format isn't as popular as it used to be.

Yeah I have to agree with ya. While I've never used Facebook I've gone to a number of other forums since I stopped being consistently active here, and I have to say TK has probably the least fun and chill atmosphere out of all of them along with the highest amount of member burnout by far. Like I've been to AVPgalaxy, I've been to various Universal monster/classic horror forums, Star Wars, and I've occasionally looked at Transformers, Marvel, Tomb Raider, heck even Reddit boards, etc TK surpasses them all especially in the amount of drama

TK forums also lack a lot of basic QOL features like the ability to upload images directly to the site. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy coming to TK, seeing new announcements and all that as well as what everyone around here thinks, and especially the main site. However I certainly don't stick around as much as I used to

[Spuro]

I find it very difficult to believe a Star Wars board could be better than TK. In my personal experience that fandom has been unbelievable awful to deal with for the past fifteen or so years. Like the wrong movie in the wrong crowd and you can expect to be endlessly harassed, belittled, and have your intelligence called into question.

I’d sooner join a message board about Barbie dolls than Star Wars.


*Better, not worse. Ugh, that's what I get for making a post right after I wake up, lol.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

I find it very difficult to believe a Star Wars board could be worse than TK. In my personal experience that fandom has been unbelievable awful to deal with for the past fifteen or so years. Like the wrong movie in the wrong crowd and you can expect to be endlessly harassed, belittled, and have your intelligence called into question.

I’d sooner join a message board about Barbie dolls than Star Wars.

Hell, I'd argue that most of TK's salt comes from its Star Wars thread.

See also: the nuclear fallout from The Last Jedi and everyone screaming for Kathleen Kennedy/Rian Johnson's blood

[Beast Blood]

I literally cannot discuss my favorite game in anything but private chats with friends or family because the forums and subreddits about it are so ungodly toxic.

[Terasawa]

Been out of the TK loop for a while. Been doing most of my Godzilla talk on Facebook as of late. While there's still some dopes on there, I've noticed that I like the discussion better on there than on a message board type environment. It seems when you have a discussion with actual people with their real names as opposed to anonymous screen names the convos seem to be less hostile and passive aggressive. I still think TK serves a purpose but I can see why the message board format isn't as popular as it used to be.

Except for one private, limited-membership Facebook group, that hasn't been my experience with Facebook at all.

[ROMG4]

I find it very difficult to believe a Star Wars board could be better than TK. In my personal experience that fandom has been unbelievable awful to deal with for the past fifteen or so years.

Like all things it just depends where you look. In my personal experience while I've met a number of uncool folks in the SW fanbase (Mostly TCW fans, but that's a meaningless tangent for this conversation) I've also met way more really cool people, and made quite a number of friends in there.

This type of rationale is something I really don't get, It would be like me blaming the Godzilla fanbase because of TK's drama incidents as if the collective fanbase is somehow at fault for those hacking incidents, Footwars, Leek wars, pretty much the entire monsterverse section, SHMA thread, and Reiwa, rather than it just being our small corner of the wider fanbase. Both the Godzilla and Star wars fanbase is so much larger than the small sample sizes we have interacted with, the only main connection between these disconnected groups is that all share an interest in the series. So yes, regardless of our own bias presuming there's not a single Star wars board, group, chat, or whatever has a chiller community than TK is being silly and presuming all the SW boards are better than TK, or that they haven't had drama is even dumber and I never said or thought that.

belittled, and have your intelligence called into question.

Like you did to me in that star wars thread a while ago when we were talking about BF2 for pretty much no reason?

See also: the nuclear fallout from The Last Jedi and everyone screaming for Kathleen Kennedy/Rian Johnson's blood

"Overlord DVD is on the rise! He's got Kathleen's personal mail list to Rian johnson and she is to be disposed with George lucas viscerally murdering her while also crowning Dave filoni as the God king of star wars!" "The female order shall CRUMBLE"

Its so silly that its comic relief now

I literally cannot discuss my favorite game in anything but private chats with friends or family because the forums and subreddits about it are so ungodly toxic.

Ah that sucks, why are so many people in the community toxic?

[Spuro]

belittled, and have your intelligence called into question.

Like you did to me in that star wars thread a while ago when we were talking about BF2 for pretty much no reason?

Last I checked, it was the other way around.

[eabaker]

I see a fight brewing here. Let's not, shall we?

[LSD Jellyfish]

Godzilla21 totally has a point about people being less toxic when there's an easily identifiable face/person behind that avatar. I suspect that a lot of people on the internet wouldn't be saying the same thing they were, one way or another, if it weren't for anonymity. Terasawa is also right though that people can still be just as shitty regardless.

That being said, while I have nothing to really hide, I enjoy having my interests in Godzilla and movies separate from Facebook which I primarily use to contact close friends and family from the past. I enjoy that separation, and I'm sure many others feel that way as well. The other thing is that because of the "thread" format, it's easy to see how your own, or others, tastes over movies have evolved and changed over time. Because of the forums simple layout, long-form paragraph replies and conversations are also infinitely more doable. I can imagine typing out some of the longer stuff and someone going "you gonna write your life story?"

While everything is impermanent conversations on Facebook and other social media feel infinitely more so. It's nice having a sense of continuity and it's why I enjoy using TK's forums, even well before getting more involved with the fandom.

[eabaker]

I also find that the thread format on most message boards works better - graphically, as well as culturally - for fostering in-depth conversation and analysis.

[ROMG4]

Admin edit: You were told to not stir up a fight. So let's not.

[Spuro]

That being said, while I have nothing to really hide, I enjoy having my interests in Godzilla and movies separate from Facebook which I primarily use to contact close friends and family from the past. I enjoy that separation, and I'm sure many others feel that way as well. The other thing is that because of the "thread" format, it's easy to see how your own, or others, tastes over movies have evolved and changed over time. Because of the forums simple layout, long-form paragraph replies and conversations are also infinitely more doable. I can imagine typing out some of the longer stuff and someone going "you gonna write your life story?"

While everything is impermanent conversations on Facebook and other social media feel infinitely more so. It's nice having a sense of continuity and it's why I enjoy using TK's forums, even well before getting more involved with the fandom.

This is exactly the reason I stick to internet forums as opposed to facebook groups or reddit. It's so much easier to navigate too. I'm still not sure how to search up old topics on reddit's wonky search system, or if such a thing is even possible.

[Godzilla21]

TK forums also lack a lot of basic QOL features like the ability to upload images directly to the site. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy coming to TK, seeing new announcements and all that as well as what everyone around here thinks, and especially the main site. However I certainly don't stick around as much as I used to

This kind of sums up how I feel about TK. Its cool to visit sometimes but anything more than a quick visit is enough to remind me of why I don't come around as much. I mean look at this page alone and you already see typical annoying bickering and a mod stepping in. I've seen so much turnover here in my 10 years on the site. Seen a lot of people come and go. I've talked to several on Facebook too and the reasons people leave are all over the place.

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I’d sooner join a message board about Barbie dolls than Star Wars.

I don't go NEAR that fandom. Just toxic on all sides.

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Except for one private, limited-membership Facebook group, that hasn't been my experience with Facebook at all.

Well that's too bad. As I said I've been doing it more lately and its been a breath of fresh air. Just the other day there was a semi fight that broke out about the merits of GvK and how its affects bringing in younger fans. By the end the two guys apologized to each other for being heated and found common ground. Something I rarely see here. Just so much hostility and a lack of people skills on the part of some here.

[miguelnuva]

TK forums also lack a lot of basic QOL features like the ability to upload images directly to the site. Don't get me wrong I still enjoy coming to TK, seeing new announcements and all that as well as what everyone around here thinks, and especially the main site. However I certainly don't stick around as much as I used to

This kind of sums up how I feel about TK. Its cool to visit sometimes but anything more than a quick visit is enough to remind me of why I don't come around as much. I mean look at this page alone and you already see typical annoying bickering and a mod stepping in. I've seen so much turnover here in my 10 years on the site. Seen a lot of people come and go. I've talked to several on Facebook too and the reasons people leave are all over the place.

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I’d sooner join a message board about Barbie dolls than Star Wars.

I don't go NEAR that fandom. Just toxic on all sides.

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Except for one private, limited-membership Facebook group, that hasn't been my experience with Facebook at all.

Well that's too bad. As I said I've been doing it more lately and its been a breath of fresh air. Just the other day there was a semi fight that broke out about the merits of GvK and how its affects bringing in younger fans. By the end the two guys apologized to each other for being heated and found common ground. Something I rarely see here. Just so much hostility and a lack of people skills on the part of some here.

We're Godzilla fans brl, we settle disputes like he does. Godzilla ripped his best friend's throat out over who's side of the island was closer to Japan in 55 .

[Godzilla21]

Godzilla21 totally has a point about people being less toxic when there's an easily identifiable face/person behind that avatar. I suspect that a lot of people on the internet wouldn't be saying the same thing they were, one way or another, if it weren't for anonymity. Terasawa is also right though that people can still be just as shitty regardless.

That being said, while I have nothing to really hide, I enjoy having my interests in Godzilla and movies separate from Facebook which I primarily use to contact close friends and family from the past. I enjoy that separation, and I'm sure many others feel that way as well. The other thing is that because of the "thread" format, it's easy to see how your own, or others, tastes over movies have evolved and changed over time. Because of the forums simple layout, long-form paragraph replies and conversations are also infinitely more doable. I can imagine typing out some of the longer stuff and someone going "you gonna write your life story?"

While everything is impermanent conversations on Facebook and other social media feel infinitely more so. It's nice having a sense of continuity and it's why I enjoy using TK's forums, even well before getting more involved with the fandom.

Agree with most of this and when i said earlier that TK still has a place my purpose was saying that the format CAN foster an easier way to discuss the films. The format does have an advantage over Facebook. But to me that advantage is negated by the actual discussion and actions of the participants. I am on a Dodge truck owners forum and there are almost never any fights, any mod intervention. So I give the edge in format to TK, but in behavior to social media.

I'm actually opposite of you on Facebook and I care LESS about what family and friends say and I focus more on my Groups lol. Too much politics these days.

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That being said, while I have nothing to really hide, I enjoy having my interests in Godzilla and movies separate from Facebook which I primarily use to contact close friends and family from the past. I enjoy that separation, and I'm sure many others feel that way as well. The other thing is that because of the "thread" format, it's easy to see how your own, or others, tastes over movies have evolved and changed over time. Because of the forums simple layout, long-form paragraph replies and conversations are also infinitely more doable. I can imagine typing out some of the longer stuff and someone going "you gonna write your life story?"

While everything is impermanent conversations on Facebook and other social media feel infinitely more so. It's nice having a sense of continuity and it's why I enjoy using TK's forums, even well before getting more involved with the fandom.

This is exactly the reason I stick to internet forums as opposed to facebook groups or reddit. It's so much easier to navigate too. I'm still not sure how to search up old topics on reddit's wonky search system, or if such a thing is even possible.

Reddit's wonky search system? Have you tried THIS place's search system?? Equally as wonky.

[Spuro]

Reddit's wonky search system? Have you tried THIS place's search system?? Equally as wonky.

"Nope, can't search that! Each word must consist of at least 6 characters!"

"Nope! Can't search that either! The words were too common!"



Still, I've had more luck with it than Reddit's, so there's that.

[Mac Daddy MM]

While its on topic of forums vs. FB groups. I've been part of the online forum community for going on 20 years now, with exposure to GojiStomp, Rodan's Roost/Kaijuphile and, of course, TK. I will take any one of them, even current TK (which is honestly better than most prior TK "eras"), over any FB group I'm in by far.

My main problem with FB groups is that they are all virtually the same. New DVD/Blu-Ray comes out? Get ready to have your feed flooded with pictures of the case and the same handful of statements. "Its out!" "I never seen it before!" "Anybody else pick it up"? No man. Nobody. Not a single soul in a Godzilla/tokusatsu knew this wide release was coming and nobody else has seen it. You're the first. Congrats. Not a single fan in the US has ever even heard of Ultraman, *in Hank Hill voice* let me tell ya' what. You can find the same post from the same people with the same exact typos repeated in multiple groups and it is beyond obnoxious. Jesus Christ, there's *STILL* people just randomly posting that they picked up Godzilla vs. Kong. Nobody f'n cares.

Having now been part of a handful of groups for a while, I can't understand how anyone would think any of them are as good as a good, ole fashion message board. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of the people I've crossed paths with directly, but holy shit. Between the same repeated posts, the constant repeats of the same news everyone knows and was posted 100 times already and the constant influx of "art"...

God forbid there is ANY actual news from a new movie. 'Cause it's just a constant flood of the same f'n thing for days on end. Toy groups are even worse. Can't wait for my feed to get hit with the same screen shots and advertisements for Super 7's Ultimate Godzilla line. I'll probably be bailing in more than one group.

TK has all of those same problems in some capacity as well. But the big difference is each thing is then categorized in a proper thread. Scroll through most FB groups and you'll find something like this.

- An announcement that was recently made.
- Random kaiju picture.
- Same announcement that was recently made, posted now by somebody else.
- Same announcement that was recently made, posted now by somebody else, only now adding an opinion.
- Someone bitching about said announcement.
- Something actually interesting.
- Random kaiju picture.
- Artwork, either someone's own bad artwork or something being reposted from Matt Frank or Bob Eggleton.
- Same announcement that was recently made, posted now by somebody else.
- Same announcement that was recently made, posted now by somebody else.
- Random kaiju picture.
- Artwork, either someone's own bad artwork or something being reposted from Matt Frank or Bob Eggleton.
- Same announcement that was recently made, posted now by somebody else, only now adding an opinion.

[Terasawa]

Idk how accurate that is to Facebook (haven't been in a public FB Godzilla group for the better part of a decade) but it's a perfect summary of r/Godzilla.

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Idk how accurate that is to Facebook (haven't been in a public FB Godzilla group for the better part of a decade) but it's a perfect summary of r/Godzilla.

Not quite, it doesn’t have “painfully unfunny meme”, then it’d be perfect.

[Mac Daddy MM]

Idk how accurate that is to Facebook (haven't been in a public FB Godzilla group for the better part of a decade) but it's a perfect summary of r/Godzilla.

Not quite, it doesn’t have “painfully unfunny meme”, then it’d be perfect.

Knew I forgot something. I've tried Reddit - once, for Mortal Kombat. Never again. So as I said, I can't wrap my head around how any Godzilla fan prefers FB groups over a message board. Sure, TK has its issues. And it WOULD be great if there was an real, alternative forum that wasn't as PG. But the groups are like getting a constant tidal wave of useless BS that you already know with the very rare "that's neat" type of thing thrown in to keep you checking back now and then.