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Because charts are always neat -

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Might've posted this one already -

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This isn't an arthropod.
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Of course it isn't, it's Bothriolepis, the Devonion placoderm genus with 60 known worldwide species, most famous for it's brief appearance in the episode one of Chased by Sea Monsters.


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Even if I didn't know all that off the top of my head, which I in fact did not, the entire tail section is entirely unsegmented with fleshy fin lobes. Don't have to be an especially knowledgeable animal enthusiast to see that's no arthropod.

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Honestly if i didn't know any better, i probably would've thought that it was an arthropod. But then again, i used to think Dimetrodon was a dinosaur..
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Gigantis wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:22 am Honestly if i didn't know any better, i probably would've thought that it was an arthropod. But then again, i used to think Dimetrodon was a dinosaur..
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The "Dueling Dinosaurs" incident is a massive triumph for science :D

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Bagualia alba, a primitive sauropod from the Early Jurassic of Argentina, has shown that early eusauropods rose to dominance after an ancient global warming event caused by increased volcanic activity.

https://phys.org/news/2020-11-global-tr ... saurs.html

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Dino-Mario wrote: Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:04 pm The "Dueling Dinosaurs" incident is a massive triumph for science :D
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Bagualia alba, a primitive sauropod from the Early Jurassic of Argentina, has shown that early eusauropods rose to dominance after an ancient global warming event caused by increased volcanic activity.
https://phys.org/news/2020-11-global-tr ... saurs.html
Aw heck yeah, article's even properly sourced and there's no paywall on the paper! https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/ ... .2020.2310

So what they're saying is, if current trends continue the remnants of humanity will be living in a drier and much less ecologically diverse earth, but we have giant long-necked herbivores to look forward to?

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Gomi: Ninja Monster wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:32 am So what they're saying is, if current trends continue the remnants of humanity will be living in a drier and much less ecologically diverse earth, but we have giant long-necked herbivores to look forward to?
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tbeasley wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:48 pm Because charts are always neat -

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PmWwZ1

Might've posted this one already -

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https://emilywilloughby.com/art/gallery ... simplified
Excellent charts! Two things I need to point out;

*Brontosaurus is being considered by some authorities as a separate genus again,
*Another name for prosauropods that was considered to replace that name was paleopods (meaning "ancient foot").

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Gomi: Ninja Monster wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:32 am So what they're saying is, if current trends continue the remnants of humanity will be living in a drier and much less ecologically diverse earth, but we have giant long-necked herbivores to look forward to?
Mammals seem to have hit a limit on how big they get (see ancient proboscideans and indricotheres)

I think 25-30 tonnes is the absolute maximum a mammal could reach.

Not to mention, all mammals have 7 neck vertebrae (even giraffes) so them developing longer necks is kinda difficult
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Manuelito Canelito wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:07 pm
Gomi: Ninja Monster wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:32 am So what they're saying is, if current trends continue the remnants of humanity will be living in a drier and much less ecologically diverse earth, but we have giant long-necked herbivores to look forward to?
Mammals seem to have hit a limit on how big they get (see ancient proboscideans and indricotheres)

I think 25-30 tonnes is the absolute maximum a mammal could reach.

Not to mention, all mammals have 7 neck vertebrae (even giraffes) so them developing longer necks is kinda difficult
So it's all up to the Ratites then. Or other ground birds I guess, if returning to a quadruped stance proves necessary.

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So here's an animal I was hardly aware of before this video, but it's actually freaking cool. Those unconventional teeth and oversized thumb claws really help it stand out.

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mikelcho wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:36 am
tbeasley wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:48 pm Because charts are always neat -

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PmWwZ1

Might've posted this one already -

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https://emilywilloughby.com/art/gallery ... simplified
Excellent charts! Two things I need to point out;

*Brontosaurus is being considered by some authorities as a separate genus again,
*Another name for prosauropods that was considered to replace that name was paleopods (meaning "ancient foot").
I agree, the charts are very nice. Though I must admit I'm surprised that neither mentions ornithoscelida as an option...
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Shoopwoop17 wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 6:03 pm
mikelcho wrote: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:36 am
tbeasley wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:48 pm Because charts are always neat -

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https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PmWwZ1

Might've posted this one already -

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https://emilywilloughby.com/art/gallery ... simplified
Excellent charts! Two things I need to point out;

*Brontosaurus is being considered by some authorities as a separate genus again,
*Another name for prosauropods that was considered to replace that name was paleopods (meaning "ancient foot").
I agree, the charts are very nice. Though I must admit I'm surprised that neither mentions ornithoscelida as an option...
Which dinosaurs are in Ornithoscelida? Is one of them Scelidosaurus?
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So anymore news on the Styracosaur horn fiasco? I mean, something bound to change a huge part of Paleontology must be getting some news.
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Gigantis wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:23 am So anymore news on the Styracosaur horn fiasco? I mean, something bound to change a huge part of Paleontology must be getting some news.

Not much, probably because we're currently reassessing every Centrosauri specimen
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Not sure if y'all have already seen this video, but I think this is an amazing piece of realistic speculation. I personally want to see more realistic, non-roaring animalistic dinosaurs in future pop-culture.

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mikelcho wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:20 am Which dinosaurs are in Ornithoscelida? Is one of them Scelidosaurus?
Technically yes, but that is not where the name comes from. Ornithoscelida is a clade which includes theropods and ornithischians but not sauropodomorphs or herrerasauridae. Dinosaurs are traditionally split into ornithischia and saurischia, but a recent paper suggested that this grouping may not be correct, and that theropods are more closely related to ornithischians than sauropods.
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