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[LSD Jellyfish]

The only chance that he would've not been guilty of murder, was if he died of some other issue. However, pretty much all the medics and everyone involved instantly stated that it was very clear that he died from the officers actions. It's always been abundantly clear that he died of having his neck kneeled on for 9 mins. Ask yourself honestly, if it wasn't a cop doing that to someones neck, would you even question who caused the murder? The cop has been given much more resources and leeway and opportunity to explain himself for the unexplainable.

Riots aren't a good thing, violence isn't a good thing. But let's not conflate the issues.

[miguelnuva]

And Goji89 why are you saying that like he was going to be found guilty regardless. You don't think what he did was a crime?

It doesn't matter what I think, he was found guilty by a jury of his peers. Meaning he commited a crime and was found guilty.

Personal opinion matters a lot, but you don't have to share if you don't want to.

[eabaker]

but as a proud patriotic American who loves this country and wouldn't want to live anywhere else

And "as a proud patriotic American who loves this country and wouldn't want to live anywhere else," what are your feelings on institutional and systemic racism?

[goji89]

I find it pretty fucking stupid to call out people for saying they love this country.

I am an unapologetic America loving God loving, God fearing man.

And it's fucking sad to see that whenever some patriot says they love their country they are assumed to not believe in anything else other than to be one of "those" conservatives or a Trump fan.

Fucking pathetic.

[eabaker]

I find it pretty fucking stupid to call out people for saying they love this country.

I am an unapologetic America loving God loving, God fearing man.

And it's fucking sad to see that whenever some patriot says they love their country they are assumed to not believe in anything else other than to be one of "those" conservatives or a Trump fan.

Fucking pathetic.

Good thing that's in no way what just happened.

[goji89]

I find it pretty skreeonking stupid to call out people for saying they love this country.

I am an unapologetic America loving God loving, God fearing man.

And it's skreeonking sad to see that whenever some patriot says they love their country they are assumed to not believe in anything else other than to be one of "those" conservatives or a Trump fan.

skreeonking pathetic.

Good thing that's in no way what just happened.

Oh, so guy comes in says that and you just question him on his thoughts out of the blue? Why just because or because he said what he said?

What answer did you think you'd get? He'd say he's fine with it, which I think no one here is.

[eabaker]

I find it pretty skreeonking stupid to call out people for saying they love this country.

I am an unapologetic America loving God loving, God fearing man.

And it's skreeonking sad to see that whenever some patriot says they love their country they are assumed to not believe in anything else other than to be one of "those" conservatives or a Trump fan.

skreeonking pathetic.

Good thing that's in no way what just happened.

Oh, so guy comes in says that and you just question him on his thoughts out of the blue? Why just because or because he said what he said?

You know perfectly well that I was responding primarily to the content of the rest of his post, and quoted that specific line primarily for rhetorical purposes to structure and contextualize my own reply. I don't know exactly why you're intentionally misinterpreting me.

As to the broader issue you raise, though, let's be realistic: 99% of the time, when somebody goes out of their way to comment on being "America loving" or "God loving," they're doing it with the intention of implying that somebody else isn't. It's a cheap way of passive-aggressively slandering anyone you don't like or don't agree with. (Also, I'm not sure why you've brought religion into this at all.)

What answer did you think you'd get? He'd say he's fine with it, which I think no one here is.

An awful lot of people will deny that those things exist at all, or that they are significant problems in need of strong response.

[goji89]

Good thing that's in no way what just happened.

Oh, so guy comes in says that and you just question him on his thoughts out of the blue? Why just because or because he said what he said?

You know perfectly well that I was responding primarily to the content of the rest of his post, and quoted that specific line primarily for rhetorical purposes to structure and contextualize my own reply. I don't know exactly why you're intentionally misinterpreting me.

As to the broader issue you raise, though, let's be realistic: 99% of the time, when somebody goes out of their way to comment on being "America loving" or "God loving," they're doing it with the intention of implying that somebody else isn't. It's a cheap way of passive-aggressively slandering anyone you don't like or don't agree with. (Also, I'm not sure why you've brought religion into this at all.)

What answer did you think you'd get? He'd say he's fine with it, which I think no one here is.

An awful lot of people will deny that those things exist at all, or that they are significant problems in need of strong response.

Exactly why I said what I said. You purposely selected that line instead of the rest of the post and for what? To call out someone saying they're patriotic? I find it pretty stupid to call on people for saying they're patriotic unapologetically.

I'm a proud America loving patriot myself. I brought religion into this because it goes hand in hand with my beliefs God and Country. Doesn't mean I'm like anybody else.

I could give a flying fuck whether ANYONE believes I'm this trump loving racist because I believe in my Country and my God.

[eabaker]

Oh, so guy comes in says that and you just question him on his thoughts out of the blue? Why just because or because he said what he said?

You know perfectly well that I was responding primarily to the content of the rest of his post, and quoted that specific line primarily for rhetorical purposes to structure and contextualize my own reply. I don't know exactly why you're intentionally misinterpreting me.

As to the broader issue you raise, though, let's be realistic: 99% of the time, when somebody goes out of their way to comment on being "America loving" or "God loving," they're doing it with the intention of implying that somebody else isn't. It's a cheap way of passive-aggressively slandering anyone you don't like or don't agree with. (Also, I'm not sure why you've brought religion into this at all.)

What answer did you think you'd get? He'd say he's fine with it, which I think no one here is.

An awful lot of people will deny that those things exist at all, or that they are significant problems in need of strong response.

Exactly why I said what I said. You purposely selected that line instead of the rest of the post and for what? To call out someone saying they're patriotic? I find it pretty stupid to call on people for saying they're patriotic unapologetically.

I'm a proud America loving patriot myself. I brought religion into this because it goes hand in hand with my beliefs God and Country. Doesn't mean I'm like anybody else.

I could give a flying fuck whether ANYONE believes I'm this trump loving racist because I believe in my Country and my God.

As I have said, and as you almost certainly knew in the first place, my point was not to "call someone out" about anything. You seem to be putting words in my mouth (or at least implications into my post) with the specific aim of painting me as "unpatriotic." And where was it suggested that anyone should apologize for their patriotism? It reads like to be bringing a lot of baggage with you into this conversation.

Your belief in God goes hand in hand with your belief in your country, but that doesn't make it anything but a non sequitur here, unless your aim is to demonize non-theists by implying that religion is a necessary component of patriotism.

Nobody brought Trump up. Nobody said or implied that anybody else was a racist. You're arguing with a hypothetical boogeyman.

This isn't going anywhere productive, so after his point, I'm done with this conversation. Just rest assured, nobody is questioning or devaluing your patriotism or your religion, nor anyone else's.

[Spirit Ghidorah 2010]

"When you ask someone for their opinion on racism, it means you're calling them out on their patriotism" is probably the hottest take I've seen on TK in a while.

[goji89]

"When you ask someone for their opinion on racism, it means you're calling them out on their patriotism" is probably the hottest take I've seen on TK in a while.

You know damn well it isn't that. What it is that whenever anyone says "I'm a proud American who loves his country" many assume they're racists or deep right crazy conservative, so stop coming in here with that stupid "Hot take" crap.

[Zasraniec]

America has a serious problem with racism but Floyd getting some justice is a step in the right direction.

[miguelnuva]

"When you ask someone for their opinion on racism, it means you're calling them out on their patriotism" is probably the hottest take I've seen on TK in a while.

You know damn well it isn't that. What it is that whenever anyone says "I'm a proud American who loves his country" many assume they're racists or deep right crazy conservative, so stop coming in here with that stupid "Hot take" crap.

Or they have no problem with racism and don't realize it. It's good to love your country and be a man of God, I love America and I love serving my God.

America however is still a fucked up place that needs a lot of work.

Not every patriot has this problem but a few do.

[Gerdzerl]

What it is that whenever anyone says "I'm a proud American who loves his country" many assume they're racists or deep right crazy conservative

Well, to be fair, there are many people who say things along the lines of, "I'm a proud American who loves his country" and do, in fact, have racist/far right conservative viewpoints. Even if you personally aren't like that, it's not exactly that unfounded of a conclusion to make.

To clarify, nobody here is accusing you of anything, it's just important to be aware that statements like that don't exist in a vacuum.

[goji89]

"When you ask someone for their opinion on racism, it means you're calling them out on their patriotism" is probably the hottest take I've seen on TK in a while.

You know damn well it isn't that. What it is that whenever anyone says "I'm a proud American who loves his country" many assume they're racists or deep right crazy conservative, so stop coming in here with that stupid "Hot take" crap.

Or they have no problem with racism and don't realize it. It's good to love your country and be a man of God, I love America and I love serving my God.

America however is still a skreeonked up place that needs a lot of work.

Not every patriot has this problem but a few do.

See, this I can get behind, I agree with you. An acknowledgement of this goes a long way and yes America is far from perfect but to say it's a fucked up place is wrong. It's flawed but NOT fucked and yes it needs work.

[miguelnuva]

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/04 ... orge-floyd

Racist gonna be racist.

[LegendZilla]

Chad dictator Idriss Deby dies on the battlefield : https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... story.html

[JAGzilla]

What it is that whenever anyone says "I'm a proud American who loves his country" many assume they're racists or deep right crazy conservative, so stop coming in here with that stupid "Hot take" crap.

You're not even wrong. I myself used to defend America from bashing by pointing out all the good in our country along with the bad, but I've found myself subconsciously slipping into this 'patriotism = negative far-right stereotype' mindset after all the bullshit of the last few years. I know that is a long way from always being true, but it's sort of a knee-jerk thing.

[KManX89]

Owned.

How much you want to bet Ben would be saying justice was served if they let a murderer cop go free yet again? Which thankfully didn't happen this time.

[Spuro]

"When you ask someone for their opinion on racism, it means you're calling them out on their patriotism" is probably the hottest take I've seen on TK in a while.

You know damn well it isn't that. What it is that whenever anyone says "I'm a proud American who loves his country" many assume they're racists or deep right crazy conservative, so stop coming in here with that stupid "Hot take" crap.

We don’t assume you’re deep right crazy conservative because you’re religious or patriotic, goji.

We assume you’re deep right crazy conservative because of the hundreds of complaints you’ve posted about liberals/leftists over the past three months.