Unpopular Godzilla Opinions
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I think Miguel explains it well. The first two Heisei Gamera films are lighter in tone and have a superhero feel. RoG has a darker tone with political commentary. A lighter toned film works better for an introduction.
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That really depends upon the audience.
While I have used GotU as an introduction to the genre more than once (and, as I said before, would certainly choose it above any Heisei Godzilla film for that purpose), most of the time, I use the original Gojira as the starting point (GMK can also work, and lately Shin has become an option for that as well), because it has both emotional and intellectual depth beyond what most people expect from "Japanese rubber monsters."
Basically, I think an introductory entry should be compelling in a way not dependent upon familiarity with previous works, but compelling in what sense really depends upon the viewer you're trying to seduce.
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Perfect explanation.
The reason the Heisei series doesn't work as an introduction to the genre is that most of them rely on the viewer's familiarity with Godzilla. A lot of fans excuse the faults of these movies because, "It's a Godzilla movie, look at him fight that other monster!" That's fine if you already love the monster but it has NEVER worked for me when trying to get people into the character.
The reason the Heisei series doesn't work as an introduction to the genre is that most of them rely on the viewer's familiarity with Godzilla. A lot of fans excuse the faults of these movies because, "It's a Godzilla movie, look at him fight that other monster!" That's fine if you already love the monster but it has NEVER worked for me when trying to get people into the character.
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I literally never heard of Godzilla before watching Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah for the first time and here I am today.Legion1979 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:16 am The reason the Heisei series doesn't work as an introduction to the genre is that most of them rely on the viewer's familiarity with Godzilla.
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This was, ironically, my introduction film as well.UltramanGoji wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:20 amI literally never heard of Godzilla before watching Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah for the first time and here I am today.Legion1979 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:16 am The reason the Heisei series doesn't work as an introduction to the genre is that most of them rely on the viewer's familiarity with Godzilla.
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And I'm sure that's true of a lot of people who were kids at the time, or were predisposed to those types of movies. All of us got into Godzilla somehow.UltramanGoji wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:20 amI literally never heard of Godzilla before watching Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah for the first time and here I am today.Legion1979 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 22, 2022 11:16 am The reason the Heisei series doesn't work as an introduction to the genre is that most of them rely on the viewer's familiarity with Godzilla.
But my experience has been with people who aren't inclined to like giant monster movies in the first place. I've never converted anyone into a Godzilla fan (and it's silly to try) but the most positive reactions have always been with the Heisei Gamera series, the 54 Godzilla or a handful of Showa entries. The Heisei series has never worked.
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Being that this is page three of this, I'm going to recommend we move off the "Gamera trilogy" discussion in here for the time being and get back to different unpopular opinions.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:24 pm Don't go to a friend's wedding, send him 100 copies of Gamera vs Zigra instead. Be a man.
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Hey at least it lead to discussion. A lot of what goes on in this thread seems to most be people saying nutty things for reactions. The fact that this went on for three pages, IMHO, isn't a bad thing. It showed it was something worth discussing.
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Right, but it's excessive at this point. It's not the point of the thread. Feel free to discuss it another appropriate thread.
Unpopular opinions now. Thanks.
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MechaGoji Bro7503 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 31, 2023 3:24 pm Don't go to a friend's wedding, send him 100 copies of Gamera vs Zigra instead. Be a man.
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I prefer the 67 Gorosaurus design to the one used in DAM. I think the darker colours look more natural, as well as the more hunched appearance. Cooler roars too.
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It's not just you so don't worry, but why am I suddenly seeing people say that there are two different Gorosaurus designs? They're the same suit, and the only difference is a year of wear and storage making it look a little more worn and lumpier by 1968.
I'm surprised at the preference of the altered DAM roar, since it's a lot more Varan/Baragon in nature, while the squeaky hiss of the KKE roar was more unique.
Sometimes a Gorosaurus is just a Gorosaurus. Now if it was Showa Gigan we were talking about...
EDIT: I'm slowly realizing I didn't start hearing this until two brand new Gorosaurus figures hit the marketplace. Is this an instance of people trying to justify buying both?
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Godzilla 1998 may have very few things going for it, but the soundtrack is definitely one of those "few good things". I've been listening to several tracks from the film lately and I gotta say, I really like it. It's nowhere near on the level of Ifukube, Reijiro Kuroku, or other composers, but it isn't awful either.
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Agreed. Aside from the opening credits, I've found myself listening to "Godzilla O' Park", "Big G Goes to Monster Heaven", "Ship Reveal" and "Chernobyl" on repeat.Breakdown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:01 pm Godzilla 1998 may have very few things going for it, but the soundtrack is definitely one of those "few good things". I've been listening to several tracks from the film lately and I gotta say, I really like it. It's nowhere near on the level of Ifukube, Reijiro Kuroku, or other composers, but it isn't awful either.
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That's another aspect of G'98 that I liked more than in G'14. For all the opening sequence's technical inaccuracies, the music was fucking haunting. Rest of the score also set the mood perfectly.Breakdown wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:01 pm Godzilla 1998 may have very few things going for it, but the soundtrack is definitely one of those "few good things". I've been listening to several tracks from the film lately and I gotta say, I really like it. It's nowhere near on the level of Ifukube, Reijiro Kuroku, or other composers, but it isn't awful either.
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uuuhhh-huh...Yeah..
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I posted this in another thread, but the Godzilla franchise has never had bad music, sound design, and or bad audio.
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My dad actually prefers that version over Bowie's original, and......I can't say I disagree.Spirit Ghidorah 2010 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:23 pm I am forever grateful that The Wallflowers' "Heroes" cover introduced 8-year old me to David Bowie.
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I will second what others have said about the Heisei series. My gf fell asleep for all of them but GvB and ROG I think. Then again she’s susceptible to falling asleep during films lol.
Edit: sorry, didn’t see the separate thread for this topic.
Edit: sorry, didn’t see the separate thread for this topic.
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Mmm...LSD Jellyfish wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:04 am I posted this in another thread, but the Godzilla franchise has never had bad music, sound design, and or bad audio.
I'm still not sold on the music for Godzilla vs Kong. Or Godzilla Raids Again, for that matter. Although I would agree the music isn't BAD... it's just kinda generic and unmemorable to my ears.
Bad sound design... well, gotta disagree there. Shin Godzilla's weakest aspect by far, to me.
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