Godzilla: Male or Female?

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Godzilla: Male or Female?

Postby Breakdown » Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:10 pm

So I heard a while back that the first Godzilla at least, Godzilla '54, might have been female according to Hauro Nakajima, who recalls the director saying Godzilla was intended to be female. Then I heard Legion1979 mention this in another thread as well.

So is he male or female?
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby RedZillaKing » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:10 am

Would make sense as Minya would have to come from somewhere. I actually like that explanation, as it's the only one that really makes sense. From 55-64 Goji was bitter about his mate's death, lol.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Goji » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:30 am

Well, you said it yourself, Gyaos. Nakajima has said (on several occasions) that the original Godzilla was in fact female. I'm not exactly sure what other kind of confirmation you're looking for.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:08 am

I personally think he was male. I never heard Hauro Nakajima or the director ever say anything about him being female.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Goji » Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:25 am

So, just because you've never heard or read those specific quotes, you're suddenly inclined to believe it's not true?
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Breakdown » Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:58 am

In the japanese version of Gojira, Godzilla is refered to as male (atleast in the subtitles). Could be a misenterpretation. Thats what confuses me, the film says male but "Godzilla" himself says female.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby FlamingZilla23 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:14 pm

Goji wrote:So, just because you've never heard or read those specific quotes, you're suddenly inclined to believe it's not true?

Why don't people ever understand me? I am talking about two different things again.

But anyways male is my pick.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:13 pm

As much as I would love to shake Nakajima's hand and give him a hug, he was just a stunt man, especially at that stage of his career as a suit actor for Toho.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Goji » Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:58 pm

FlamingZilla23 wrote:
Goji wrote:So, just because you've never heard or read those specific quotes, you're suddenly inclined to believe it's not true?

Why don't people ever understand me? I am talking about two different things again.

But anyways male is my pick.


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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby miguelnuva » Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:32 pm

In till further notice the only female monsters that I go with are

Biollante,Every Mothra but Leo, Legion and Megegurius.

Doesn't TOHO usually say she if the monster is female and I thought someone called Godzilla 54 and Showa brothers before?
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Goji » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:37 pm

miguelnuva wrote: Doesn't TOHO usually say she if the monster is female and I thought someone called Godzilla 54 and Showa brothers before?


No and No.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Crocodile » Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:53 pm

Goji wrote:So, just because you've never heard or read those specific quotes, you're suddenly inclined to believe it's not true?


I dunno, I'm with him. I've never heard of this before, and hearsay isn't really something you sink your teeth into. I think his skepticism is justifiable.


TokyoVigilante wrote:As much as I would love to shake Nakajima's hand and give him a hug, he was just a stunt man, especially at that stage of his career as a suit actor for Toho.


So you're saying he was a no one in the creative process, and thus we have sufficient cause to doubt his memory?
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Goji » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:36 am

Frankly, I doubt the quote by Nakajima exists in English unless it was printed in G-Fan. Other than Ed G's book, I've read all of the major English books covering this stuff, and I don't recall it appearing in any of those. It's certainly possible he talked about it at G-Fest 2008, but it being nearly 4 years ago, I can't really remember. August would probably know, but he doesn't post here anymore (and I can't blame him for that).
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Crocodile » Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:26 am

Goji wrote:Frankly, I doubt the quote by Nakajima exists in English unless it was printed in G-Fan. Other than Ed G's book, I've read all of the major English books covering this stuff, and I don't recall it appearing in any of those. It's certainly possible he talked about it at G-Fest 2008, but it being nearly 4 years ago, I can't really remember. August would probably know, but he doesn't post here anymore (and I can't blame him for that).


Then you'll have to excuse my skepticism, but the old "X said so" is one of the oldest tools in the fan rumor book.
Not that Godzilla being male or female changes Gojira in any real way. At least not in the '54 movie at least.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:22 pm

Crocodile wrote:So you're saying he was a no one in the creative process, and thus we have sufficient cause to doubt his memory?

Moreorless. Tsuburaya routinely went to Nakajima for creative input and his influence throughout the sixties on the genre is apparent enough, but this wasn't just another japanese monster movie being made, this was the first one; Nakajima was brought on as a stuntman first and foremost, not a suit actor.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:25 pm

SuperSaiyan4Godzilla wrote:
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Crocodile wrote:So you're saying he was a no one in the creative process, and thus we have sufficient cause to doubt his memory?

Moreorless. Tsuburaya routinely went to Nakajima for creative input and his influence throughout the sixties on the genre is apparent enough, but this wasn't just another japanese monster movie being made, this was the first one; Nakajima was brought on as a stuntman first and foremost, not a suit actor.


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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby GodzillaXGomoraFight » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:13 pm

Godzilla could just be asexual like the frogs they talk about in Jurassic Park, but we will never know.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby GodGan » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:24 pm

he is a male gmk godzilla is referred to being a male so he is a he
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Living Corpse » Sat Mar 31, 2012 7:33 pm

GodGan wrote:he is a male gmk godzilla is referred to being a male so he is a he


Just because an animal is called "he" doesn't mean it is. People just tend to call an animal male when they haven't, um, lift the tail to look. Why do I feel like I've had this discussion before?

Anyways, for all we know Godzilla could have been castrated from being too close to the blast when the A-Bomb went off.
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Re: Godzilla '54: Male or Female?

Postby Crocodile » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:12 am

GodGan wrote:he is a male gmk godzilla is referred to being a male so he is a he


Eh doesn't work that way, people generically refer to things as he, without any real knowledge.

Like you may refer to a stray dog as he, when it's really a she, and you just have no way of knowing better.
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