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Eh, I don't really see it. I still consider it one of my favorite designs
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I can definitely see the rat face. Just one of my problems with that incarnation. Though it's my least favorite Godzilla movie regardless, so eh.
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From what I heard, suit actor Tsutomu Kitagawa said this is the lightest and most flexible Godzilla suit he ever wore.
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I agree with Gerdzerl on the previous page, he does kinda look like a Tasmanian Devil.

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Yeah, I remember that somebody did 2 fan arts were Godzilla 2004, It's a Rat-zilla or something. I'm totally agree with you, and Godzilla 2004 is My favourite Godzilla design too!

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I’ve never understood the hate this design gets, I’ve always ranked it among my favorites.

In all honesty, to me it seems like an updated version of the late Showa suits, with it’s single row of dorsal plates and lightweight design meant for fighting.
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I still think that calling his face rat-like isn't really all that bad of an insult. What's wrong with a rat's face, exactly?
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Gerdzerl wrote:I still think that calling his face rat-like isn't really all that bad of an insult. What's wrong with a rat's face, exactly?
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G2000 wrote:I’ve never understood the hate this design gets, I’ve always ranked it among my favorites.

In all honesty, to me it seems like an updated version of the late Showa suits, with it’s single row of dorsal plates and lightweight design meant for fighting.
But it's not the body that gets all the hate, it's the face.

And I think, above all else, it's the eyes. Other Godzillas' eyes sometimes give off a sense of intelligence, or pain, or anger, or a kind of uncanny total inhumanity (like the original). But this one? They look kind of stupid and mean, like a stereotype of a schoolyard bully. I dunno, that's always been my read of them, anyway.
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G2000 wrote:I’ve never understood the hate this design gets, I’ve always ranked it among my favorites.

In all honesty, to me it seems like an updated version of the late Showa suits, with it’s single row of dorsal plates and lightweight design meant for fighting.
Yeah, This Design is not bad, in My opinion, this Godzilla design is My personal favorite.
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Never seen that image of Godzilla 04’ before…

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G2000 wrote:I’ve never understood the hate this design gets, I’ve always ranked it among my favorites.

In all honesty, to me it seems like an updated version of the late Showa suits, with it’s single row of dorsal plates and lightweight design meant for fighting.
But it's not the body that gets all the hate, it's the face.

And I think, above all else, it's the eyes. Other Godzillas' eyes sometimes give off a sense of intelligence, or pain, or anger, or a kind of uncanny total inhumanity (like the original). But this one? They look kind of stupid and mean, like a stereotype of a schoolyard bully. I dunno, that's always been my read of them, anyway.
I see what you mean actually, there was always something about the face that bothered me and I knew it wasn’t the shape. Rework the eye shape and look and it’d be a big step up.
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I feel like it works for the film, though. This is a big, mean, angry Godzilla. He's ticked of at the world. He is all about hate; that's his arc (what little of it there is). True, maybe something that communicated a little more *intelligence* and hatred would be good...

Count me among the design's advocates. It's not in my top 5, but I prefer it to its direct predecessor, and even the GMK design (which I find interesting and eerie- definitely effective for its purposes and film- but not my cup of tea as a design). Not that there isn't room for improvement, but I like it well enough.
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Godzilla2004fan wrote:
G2000 wrote:I’ve never understood the hate this design gets, I’ve always ranked it among my favorites.

In all honesty, to me it seems like an updated version of the late Showa suits, with it’s single row of dorsal plates and lightweight design meant for fighting.
Yeah, This Design is not bad, in My opinion, this Godzilla design is My personal favorite.

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I just feel like the suit's proportions are too human-like, that's my problem with it and most of the Final Wars monster designs.
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I definitely understand and share that; it's the same reason I'm (heresy!) not a huge fan of most of the showa Godzilla suits. But there is a quality in Final Wars- particularly in Rodan, King Caesar, and Monster X, for me- that really ramps that 'human form is obvious' factor up to 11.
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Zarm wrote:I definitely understand and share that; it's the same reason I'm (heresy!) not a huge fan of most of the showa Godzilla suits. But there is a quality in Final Wars- particularly in Rodan, King Caesar, and Monster X, for me- that really ramps that 'human form is obvious' factor up to 11.
Yeah, I've never understood all the praise this Rodan gets, when it is by far the most anthropoid version.
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I think the Final War Godzilla looks really mean and badass from certain angles. There's definitely some bad angles here and there, like with most Godzilla designs, but I largely rather like it. Especially like the pronounced claws and deep set eyes.
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eabaker wrote:
Zarm wrote:I definitely understand and share that; it's the same reason I'm (heresy!) not a huge fan of most of the showa Godzilla suits. But there is a quality in Final Wars- particularly in Rodan, King Caesar, and Monster X, for me- that really ramps that 'human form is obvious' factor up to 11.
Yeah, I've never understood all the praise this Rodan gets, when it is by far the most anthropoid version.
I didn't know it received any praise at all...
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Zarm wrote:I definitely understand and share that; it's the same reason I'm (heresy!) not a huge fan of most of the showa Godzilla suits. But there is a quality in Final Wars- particularly in Rodan, King Caesar, and Monster X, for me- that really ramps that 'human form is obvious' factor up to 11.
Yeah, I've never understood all the praise this Rodan gets, when it is by far the most anthropoid version.
I didn't know it received any praise at all...
A lot of people seem to regard it as the best or second-best version of the character.
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Considering the Heisei version was an extremely stiff puppet, I'd say that's pretty accurate IMO.
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