Your Hopes for World of Godzilla
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I sense a lot more emotion associated with Godzilla in Shin than in any of the Tezuka movies.
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Certainly. I love GxMG but Godzilla himself is just a failure.eabaker wrote:I sense a lot more emotion associated with Godzilla in Shin than in any of the Tezuka movies.
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Kiryu Godzilla is looking for the bone of predecessor and according to Tezuka it's his parent. That's more of a plot for him to be there than Shin to me.eabaker wrote:I sense a lot more emotion associated with Godzilla in Shin than in any of the Tezuka movies.
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Having a plot (particularly one explained offscreen but not conveyed by the narrative) is not the same as having characterization, though.miguelnuva wrote:Kiryu Godzilla is looking for the bone of predecessor and according to Tezuka it's his parent. That's more of a plot for him to be there than Shin to me.eabaker wrote:I sense a lot more emotion associated with Godzilla in Shin than in any of the Tezuka movies.
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Tokyo Sos explains he's coming for the bines, Tezuka just says it's like his parent off screen.eabaker wrote:Having a plot (particularly one explained offscreen but not conveyed by the narrative) is not the same as having characterization, though.miguelnuva wrote:Kiryu Godzilla is looking for the bone of predecessor and according to Tezuka it's his parent. That's more of a plot for him to be there than Shin to me.eabaker wrote:I sense a lot more emotion associated with Godzilla in Shin than in any of the Tezuka movies.
Like I said just to me personally I didn't see Shin show anything other than he needed to be there to move the plot., like he was truly a God like they were trying to convey.
Well on second thought he got very pissed off when he got hurt by the bunker busters.
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But as eabaker said, that's not characterization, it's exposition. A character saying Godzilla is returning because of the bones is not the same thing as Godzilla emoting.
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Godzilla is showing emotion to me during the action of looking for his family's bones or maybe he just wants revenge and knows the thing he wants to fight is similar to himself. Godzilla himself can't talk but when I see him coming back to Japan and heading in a certain direction not even fully healed the characters are just telling me why he is doing so.Terasawa wrote:But as eabaker said, that's not characterization, it's exposition. A character saying Godzilla is returning because of the bones is not the same thing as Godzilla emoting.
The majority of Godzilla's attacks are random rampages so when the films try to explain what he is doing I take that into account.
At least in Tokyo sos I perceived that Godzilla as wanting to meet Mechagodzilla again.
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That’s headcanon. With in the actual film, Godzilla expresses no emotion.miguelnuva wrote:At least in Tokyo sos I perceived that Godzilla as wanting to meet Mechagodzilla again.Terasawa wrote:But as eabaker said, that's not characterization, it's exposition. A character saying Godzilla is returning because of the bones is not the same thing as Godzilla emoting.
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For King Ghidorah to look like himself from the Zone Fighter manga with manes of course.
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Needs to look more gold.Cryptid_Liker wrote:For King Ghidorah to look like himself from the Zone Fighter manga with manes of course.
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We also need the cackle and the crescents on his heads as well as his horns. Also, I prefer him to have his crimson eyes.Gigantis wrote:Needs to look more gold.Cryptid_Liker wrote:For King Ghidorah to look like himself from the Zone Fighter manga with manes of course.
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No it isn't, its said Godzilla was heading toward the bones of Godzilla 54. His motives are not clear once he got to Mechagodzilla but it is clear he wants to meet MechaG again.VoyagerGoji wrote:That’s headcanon. With in the actual film, Godzilla expresses no emotion.miguelnuva wrote:At least in Tokyo sos I perceived that Godzilla as wanting to meet Mechagodzilla again.Terasawa wrote:But as eabaker said, that's not characterization, it's exposition. A character saying Godzilla is returning because of the bones is not the same thing as Godzilla emoting.
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But again... that's just exposition. Establishing that Godzilla has a purpose for visiting Japan does not equal Godzilla displaying emotion.miguelnuva wrote:No it isn't, its said Godzilla was heading toward the bones of Godzilla 54. His motives are not clear once he got to Mechagodzilla but it is clear he wants to meet MechaG again.VoyagerGoji wrote:That’s headcanon. With in the actual film, Godzilla expresses no emotion.miguelnuva wrote:
At least in Tokyo sos I perceived that Godzilla as wanting to meet Mechagodzilla again.
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Right, an objective isn't really a character motivation if we don't know the purpose behind it. Godzilla has marginally more explicit motivation than does the Chicken for crossing the road. There's no particular emotion or drive - certainly no psychology - associated with any of it.Terasawa wrote:But again... that's just exposition. Establishing that Godzilla has a purpose for visiting Japan does not equal Godzilla displaying emotion.miguelnuva wrote:No it isn't, its said Godzilla was heading toward the bones of Godzilla 54. His motives are not clear once he got to Mechagodzilla but it is clear he wants to meet MechaG again.VoyagerGoji wrote:
That’s headcanon. With in the actual film, Godzilla expresses no emotion.
In Shin, all of that has to be inferred, of course; but the music, the photography, the sounds Godzilla makes, his posture, they all provide sort of fruitful bases from which to extrapolate. It's not explicit at all, but it's terribly evocative.
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He shows pain when Kiryu uses the drill and then hyper maser.nit been awhile but I think Mothra suprises him as well.Terasawa wrote:But again... that's just exposition. Establishing that Godzilla has a purpose for visiting Japan does not equal Godzilla displaying emotion.miguelnuva wrote:No it isn't, its said Godzilla was heading toward the bones of Godzilla 54. His motives are not clear once he got to Mechagodzilla but it is clear he wants to meet MechaG again.VoyagerGoji wrote:
That’s headcanon. With in the actual film, Godzilla expresses no emotion.
It's been a while since I saw Shin or Tokyo Sos but like I said to me personally Kiryu Goji seemed a little more alive than Shin did.
I only got emotion out of shin twice in his film.
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The crescents are there and his eyes look pretty reddish to me.VoyagerGoji wrote:We also need the cackle and the crescents on his heads as well as his horns. Also, I prefer him to have his crimson eyes.Gigantis wrote:Needs to look more gold.Cryptid_Liker wrote:For King Ghidorah to look like himself from the Zone Fighter manga with manes of course.
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The eyes look coffee-coloured and the “crescents” look like barely-curved horns jutting out from his skull.Cryptid_Liker wrote:The crescents are there and his eyes look pretty reddish to me.VoyagerGoji wrote:We also need the cackle and the crescents on his heads as well as his horns. Also, I prefer him to have his crimson eyes.Gigantis wrote:
Needs to look more gold.
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Can we have a Rodan who isn't incredibly smaller than Godzilla again?
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t h a n k y o uGigantis wrote:Can we have a Rodan who isn't incredibly smaller than Godzilla again?
Mothra and Rodan were waaayyyy too small!
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I want the terrifying Showa Rodan back.KingKong2005 wrote:t h a n k y o uGigantis wrote:Can we have a Rodan who isn't incredibly smaller than Godzilla again?
Mothra and Rodan were waaayyyy too small!
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